The Dark Knight Rises How Pissed Would You Be?

Story-wise...Riddler, Catwoman, Deadshot, and Penguin make perfect sense.
 
Johnny Depp would be the perfect mad hatter.
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Instead of a really really big one. There's two. lol.
 
It would depend on which villains they decide to use instead. I'd be okay if it was Penguin and Catwoman. But then people would start thinking it was a Batman Returns remake or something.
 
MArx how would you want the Riddler portrayed

As much as I loved the comical rendition, I would like to see a more serious Riddler. The only problem is making a serious-style Riddler different from the serious-style Joker. They are very similar. I'm sure that Nolan would write a great Riddler, but that's my only concern...making the Joker and Riddler different.
 
I saw this in the SM4 boards about The Lizard, so I figured this can be used here too. How pissed would you be if they didn't use Riddler?

Not pissed at all, that would actually be fantastic news for me. I've never understood why so many people like that character. I would like to see a character we haven't seen before, but a good Bane rendition would be awesome.
 
I think we're gonna get Bane anyway. We never saw Bane. We saw a mentally ******ed bodyguard who was juiced up on steroids, who was given the name, "Bane."
 
Going with the riddler just seems so obvious and boring. Its almost like well the jokers been done who's the next most well known batman villain?
 
I love Bane but he is another character DC used once then forgot about him after another few lesser appearances.

Riddler should just be Riddler a freak who has come about after the fall of the mob in gotham ala Dark Victory and who has an compulsion to leave riddles after the fact, ALL batmans foes should be like this in nolans vision he took so much trouble showing thier downfall so show the reaction.

The thing about him is that he isnt amazingly interesting there is no tradgic psycological story like Twoface or freeze nor is an outright flamboyant loon who kills for no real reason sometimes like Joker or a calculating mob boss on acid like Black Mask this is why i say riddler and many other batman rogues are not as interesting as the top tier 4 (imo joker,twoface,freeze,joker).
 
I love Bane but he is another character DC used once then forgot about him after another few lesser appearances.

Riddler should just be Riddler a freak who has come about after the fall of the mob in gotham ala Dark Victory and who has an compulsion to leave riddles after the fact, ALL batmans foes should be like this in nolans vision he took so much trouble showing thier downfall so show the reaction.

The thing about him is that he isnt amazingly interesting there is no tradgic psycological story like Twoface or freeze nor is an outright flamboyant loon who kills for no real reason sometimes like Joker or a calculating mob boss on acid like Black Mask this is why i say riddler and many other batman rogues are not as interesting as the top tier 4 (imo joker,twoface,freeze,joker).


I agree that he's not as dramatic as Joker or Two Face. That is why it would seem weird if he was the only villain. But Scarecrow was a villain in the 1st (and the small scene in the 2nd). He has no history in the movies.

Which brings me to my point: ^ This is why i want him to be the secondary villain. Not a villain by force, not a villain with goons to fight. An almost invisible foe that flys solo, plays games with the public and turns them on Batman even more than before bc of his secret identity. Make him obsessive but not quirky and goofy or freaky. He is obsessed with Batman, like an extreme celeb fan.

The primary villain should be either Bane or Penguin, IMO. Bane's dramatic history and size is to be primary villain. Not to mention he could be the first physical force against Batman since Ras Al Ghul. A one on one showdown with no henchmen involved would be a great finale for Nolan's series.

Or perhaps the Penguin as a mob arms dealer that rises above the mob to control them all. A monetarily powerful figure that neither the cops nor the public would challenge.
 
I agree that he's not as dramatic as Joker or Two Face. That is why it would seem weird if he was the only villain. But Scarecrow was a villain in the 1st (and the small scene in the 2nd). He has no history in the movies.

Which brings me to my point: ^ This is why i want him to be the secondary villain. Not a villain by force, not a villain with goons to fight. An almost invisible foe that flys solo, plays games with the public and turns them on Batman even more than before bc of his secret identity. Make him obsessive but not quirky and goofy or freaky. He is obsessed with Batman, like an extreme celeb fan.

The primary villain should be either Bane or Penguin, IMO. Bane's dramatic history and size is to be primary villain. Not to mention he could be the first physical force against Batman since Ras Al Ghul. A one on one showdown with no henchmen involved would be a great finale for Nolan's series.

Or perhaps the Penguin as a mob arms dealer that rises above the mob to control them all. A monetarily powerful figure that neither the cops nor the public would challenge.

Penguin was hinted at in the Gotham Times by talking about 'The Iceberg Lounge'.
 
If they don't use Riddler, how pissed would I be? Not pissed at all. But some fans would.

it would be like 9/11 times 100.
Yes, 91,100.
Basically, all the worst parts of the bible.
 
Right now I don't see nolans willingness to even do Batman 3. . . which saddens me.
 
I don't believe he was specifically mentioned...it was just a small story about 'The Iceberg Lounge'.

I stand corrected. It wasn't an actual story, it was an advertisement for 'The Iceberg Lounge'.

The Gotham Times
Issue #2, bottom of page 3
http://www.thegothamtimes.com/issue2/page3.htm

In that same issue, there's a family found dead at a carnival. The family's last name is Karnassian, but it does sound like a hint at the Graysons.
 
Isn't there also something in the Gotham Times that was "written" by an Edward Nash?
 
Nolan acted the same way after Batman Begins.

I believe Nolan will be back but he has a more clean slate after TDK if he did decide to go. BB ended on a note that begged for a sequel with the Joker card TDK not so much with batman being hunted.
 

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