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The Dark Knight Rises Ideas For Incorporating Characters Into the Nolanverse

Now i may get flamed for this but I dont really care

I think they should change the identity of Hush for the movie. Keep Elliot around as a red herring but add more red herrings. "Whodunnit" is definitely a part of Hush at first anyway. I think as a fan knowing that Elliot is Hush the whole movie would take away from the experience. But I dont know. Im kinda thinking out loud
 
I've finally found a picture of a human who has a deactivated Myostatin gene.

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Holy hell! It's Bane!

:wow:
 
Now i may get flamed for this but I dont really care

I think they should change the identity of Hush for the movie. Keep Elliot around as a red herring but add more red herrings. "Whodunnit" is definitely a part of Hush at first anyway. I think as a fan knowing that Elliot is Hush the whole movie would take away from the experience. But I dont know. Im kinda thinking out loud

that be awesome
 
I've finally found a picture of a human who has a deactivated Myostatin gene.

freakwc8.jpg


Holy hell! It's Bane!



No way, is that pic for real. That is absolutely disgusting. Please, for the love of God, tell me that is not real!
 
No way, is that pic for real. That is absolutely disgusting. Please, for the love of God, tell me that is not real!

I am 80% sure that is real. And if it isn't, it still is a pretty good demonstration of what a real-life Bane would look like.
 
I wish I had a body like that for a day... it would be like being the Hulk for a day.
 
No way, is that pic for real. That is absolutely disgusting. Please, for the love of God, tell me that is not real!

The myostatin deficiency leading to the double muscle phenotype is real. There are experiments done on mice (named "might mouse") and myostatin is a growth factor that prevents muscles from getting too big. Very few people have this naturally and there is a young child with double muscle who can lift a table.
 
Who is that? Who found that pic? I really want to know if that is for real.
 
The Penguin- I see him with a very traditional Penguin look, vintage looking tuxedo, monocle, a nice brimmed hat (but maybe not a tophat becasue it's a little silly), short stature, big nose and of course an umbrella

I see him as a dapper, self-important nightclub owner who is well known by Gotham's aristocrat society for his bizarre appearance, his love of rare birds and his palpable arrogance. Batman, now a fugitive, has been secretly watching Cobblepott for months, convinced that he is an active figure in the international blackmarket known as "The Penguin".
He would be great in the Nolan-verse becasue like Wayne; he is a public figure and as far as everyone knows he's an upstanding buisnessman. It makes him a good contrast to Batman, who is being publicly villified for the murders from TDK.
He should have an umbella that fires a six-shooter round of bulleta with a handle that pulls out into a sword, he could have others of course, but I think that would be good for his main one, it's a little more believable then say a flamethower or an umbrella that sprays crazy purple knockout gas.

I have an idea for a story too, but you don't really care that much ;)
 
Im eyeing up Bane, Catwoman, and Riddler to be the best possibilities for new villains, as well as Two face coming back in the 2nd half of the movie.

Catwoman should be exactly like batman, kind of same suit getup but i dont like those goggles, get rid of those

Riddler-its gonna be hard for him to come anywhere close to Joker but anything with the Nolans is possible, i dont really see him wearing a hat in the movie as much as he would in the comics

Bane-Bane is easy, just get a big guy, venom patches?maybe , i dont know about the liquid venom and i dont know if they should call it venom(kinda tacky name)
 
I was watching the Batman thing on the History channel and they also profiled his rogue galleries and they said The Riddler is a narcasits(?) he commit crimes/murders and leaving clues to get attention n rebels in it...I think The Riddler should be similar to Jigsaw from the Saw movies leaving clues/riddles for his victims to figure out and if they don't the punishment is death...if his character is portrayed like this it surely can out do The Dark Knight....
 
I was watching the Batman thing on the History channel and they also profiled his rogue galleries and they said The Riddler is a narcasits(?) he commit crimes/murders and leaving clues to get attention n rebels in it...I think The Riddler should be similar to Jigsaw from the Saw movies leaving clues/riddles for his victims to figure out and if they don't the punishment is death...if his character is portrayed like this it surely can out do The Dark Knight....


yup!
 
A Nolan Riddler inspired by Saw or Se7en.....

why do people insist on repeating this moronic idea? Seriously get some imagination dudes :o


I've written out ideas for Croc, Catwoman, Freeze, Riddler, Clayface, Harlequin, Penguin and Firefly in the past, but the one that is really stumping me now is Talia Al Ghul. I used be stringently opposed to the idea of her showing up, but now, not so much...
 
A Nolan Riddler inspired by Saw or Se7en.....

why do people insist on repeating this moronic idea? Seriously get some imagination dudes :o


I've written out ideas for Croc, Catwoman, Freeze, Riddler, Clayface, Harlequin, Penguin and Firefly in the past, but the one that is really stumping me now is Talia Al Ghul. I used be stringently opposed to the idea of her showing up, but now, not so much...


i think she be a great person for the third movie
 
These are just some ideas I have for the 3rd instalment. Actually it’s more like a script. Scroll past if you don’t wanna read or think it’s too long.

The third movie should continue the theme of morality and responsibility.


I’d start it off with a chase. The MCU is chasing batman and they catch him. They unmask him It’s not Bruce Wayne.

“It’s another copycat vigilante, Gordon says. “Dammit! I thought we were so close.” He’s a good actor.

“And how would you know that, Commissioner? Without seeing the Batman’s true face to compare it to, of course?” From the waist down we see the man walking toward the cops in an expensive, mostly black flashy suit and matching glistening shoes and a cane.

Gordon stumbles for a sec. “Well…It’s obvious.” He pulls at the copycat’s rubber costume.” You’d think Batman would wear rubber? I’ve seen bullets hit him point blank and not even phase him.”

We’re slowly shown more and more of the mystery man with a cane. “Hmm…maybe.…” He taps the rubber yellow Bat logo with his obviously vanity-based walking stick.

“And just who are you?”

The man wears a twisted question mark on his green silk tie, a fiery red head of hair, and an equally fiery and twisted grin. “Ah, now that’s the question.”

So.
Batman is a wanted fugitive. He's a criminal and he has to struggle with that title. He is seen as what he's been fighting this whole time and he's starting to feel it.

At a party Bruce throws to celebrate the completion of his Mansion. He meets Selina Kyle, a rich heiress who for sport, is also a "jewel" thief. She does it JUST for sport and even uses a "catch and release" approach. She rarely keeps what she steals and likes to find flaws in security systems, and moreover: people. Bruce is a person she can’t figure out no matter how sly she is and it intrigues her.
Now with Rachel out of the picture, he develops a fast-paced relationship with her and they both find out their dual identities, which places more weight on Bruce’s morals. She makes him question the idea, “if you have the power to do something, no matter how immoral it may be at times, should you do it” and compares himself to her. “People rarely improve on their flaws. It’s only after you expose them that they better themselves. Same goes with security systems.” This story intertwines with the main conflict….

I'd make this movie’s equivalent of “Riddler” a genius US Marshall or detective brought in to replace the dead MCU officers and help in the hunt for Batman. Vain and enigmatic, Edward Nashton is obsessed with crossword puzzles, trivia, riddles etc. and considers the identity of Batman to be the ultimate riddle, which he then becomes obsessed with. So, for the majority of the movie, it’s a struggle between Ed Nashton (who is trying to unmask batman) and the GPD (who is trying to catch batman); and Gordon (who is playing along, but trying to protect his identity). Nashton’s much like Harvey: determined and righteous. You begin to like him and you become convinced Nashton is a good guy.

[FONT=&quot]Edward is hot on Batman’s trail. He finds leads at the crime scenes of the dead officers Dent killed and discovers there is DNA linking Dent, not Batman to those crimes, and connects Batman to Wayne Industries through the false gov. contracts but doesn’t tell Gordon or MCU about either. Not until he finds hard definitive evidence on Batman and solves the mystery himself.[/FONT]
 
Then strange murders and break-ins start popping up with virtually no evidence. Perfect crimes with the only piece of evidence: a single name: Mister E. There is DNA of Bruce Wayne’s good friend Thomas Elliot, whom Nashton suspects. Batman however thinks it was planted and believes it to be the work of a delusional serial killer named Arnold Etchison who escaped into the narrows a year and a half ago.

Batman starts noticing a pattern in the murders and shows up to one as Mister E. is just finishing cleaning up. He chases him, a man in a trench coat and bandages covering his face. He manages to lose Batman.

A third murder has HAHAHAHA written all over the walls.

Batman nor the MCU and Nashton can figure it out.

I'd make this movie as close to a mystery/detective movie as possible. And get really Noir and close to the detective roots. I’d throw off the audience with evidence leading to other possible candidates. So much so, that even the audience is questioning who the murderer is at times (thinking maybe Two-face is back? Maybe it's the joker...Maybe a new villain?) figuring it out along with Batman, rather than Batman being one step ahead of the audience.


So Gordon suggests the MCU pause their hunt for Batman and work with him. Nashton surprisingly agrees. In fact he arranges a meeting with Batman. They pool their info and decide to go to Arkham.

They go to Arkham to speak with a “familiar friend” and an certain intern who has been taking care of that friend. Batman’s “contact” sits in the shadows of his cell (and we never really see his face), in a scene much like “Silence of the Lambs.” He asks Batman to leave the room, and speaks to Nashton privately. He can sense something about the detective and begins to plant the seed of insanity and brings things to light. Batman talks to the intern outside (she tells him she feels somewhat bad for the “inmate”), but Bruce secretly listens through the wall with his cowl earpiece thing. Outside of the Asylum, Nashton loses it; it's been eating too much at him and the conversation he just had makes him realize it. Nashton attacks Batman and attempts to remove the caped crusader's mask. We really see the raw side of "Riddler" as he lets loose on batman and even in his madness brings a logical argument to why the world would be better without batman. "How would you feel if the cop on the corner wore a mask? Protecting your streets, your house, your family? Ask yourself... Ask yourself!! With that mask....who are you protecting!?"


[FONT=&quot]Batman goes to sulk as he always does and reflect on what Nashton said to him.
He goes back to all the crime scenes. He was missing something at the crime scenes. He goes back to the first strange murder scene. He finds some barely BARELY noticable clue, in the form of a riddle or a cipher or trivia, all with a new signature, “E. Nygma.” Which leads to the next committed crime scene and so on. And they get more psychotic as he visits the more recently-committed ones. The most recent one, batman walks into a seedy apartment, looks around and switches his cowl lenses between IR, UV, etc. When he switches to a certain lens, the walls light up with a eerie luminescent glow. The walls are covered with ramblings rather than logical riddles, "WHO IS THE BATMAN" "WHY THE MASK?" "WHO ARE YOU PROTECTING?" "WHAT'S BIG AND BLACK AND FLIES?" and what not.

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He goes after Nashton via an address written on the wall. It seems to be a normal apartment. He opens the closet. There are just normal suits hanging on a motorized revolving clothes rack. Batman feels around past the suits- solid wall. He presses a button in the corner and the rack spins a full rotation. Green, flashy suits, some “riddled” with question marks. Now he knows he has to put a stop to this before he gets another joker on his hands. He hears a click beyond the suits. He pushes the inside wall and it swings open. He goes thru and he finds himself in the adjacent apartment. The owner lies dead, decaying on his bed with question marks carved all over his skin and the batman symbol carved deep into his chest. The walls are covered in amateur batman sighting photos, Batman newspaper clippings, crosswords with the words Batman, and Dark knight, etc as answers, and ramblings similar to the last crime scene. On a nearby table there are blueprints to the batmobile, Batsuit designs, new Riddler costume designs and a sewing machine with freshly sewn green fabric. The machine is still warm….

BIFF! (I mean BAM!) Batman is hit hard in the side of the head with a cane and goes down. Riddler jumps on him laughing, swinging away. “I’m gonna knock some sense into you!”

Batman just defends himself in this fight. He doesn’t fight him like he would scarecrow or joker. He’s on thin ice as it is; he doesn’t want a dead law enforcement agent on his hands. Riddler and batman circle around the apartment, Riddler asking questions he knows the answers to already, seeing if batman tells the truth.
“Are you in actuality, Harvey Dent?”
“No.”
“CORRECT!”
“Did you kill 5 police officers in cold blood?”
“Yes.”
“WRONG!”
He swings at batman each time he lies. Batman takes it in the chest and it doesn’t phase him.
“That suit! That’s property of Wayne Enterprises isn’t it?
“I’m through playing games.”
“WRONG AGAIN!”
He swings at his head, but Batman takes him down and holds him down. There’s a convo between the two; they argue logic and morals and Batman says either way you’ll lose. You’ve already gone too far. You’ve died as a hero and now you’re becoming a villain, you don’t want want to be like that lunatic up at arkham, yadda yadda yadda….
Riddler pauses, pensive; says you’re right I give. He shows batman his green rubber-gloved hands so he can cuff them. Batman reaches for his cuffs. Riddler grabs Batman’s mask and unmasks him, the gloves protecting him from the Shock.

Riddler has a huge smile.
“You can’t take me in now. I’ll out you.”
“Who’ll believe you? It’s an empty threat, you have no evidence”
Riddler looks up at a CCTV camera, back at batman and smiles.
“I’ll destroy the tape.”
“Who says there’s a tape?”
“I’ll find it.”
“I’m sure you will.”
“Even so….you can’t tell anyone. You need it”
“I need it
”Sure….It’s all about the question with you. If everyone knows the answer…where’s the fun in that? Look at you. The question’s all that’s keeping you going; it’s practically what drives you. Without the question…you’re nothing.”

The look on the Riddler’s face is like a child’s on Christmas morning staring at a present-less tree. He’d been beaten. He figured out the greatest riddle and it awarded him with nothing. All that waiting. All that excitement. All that planning. Nothing.

“Who is the Batman?”
 
Bruce Wayne and Gordon are outside Riddler’s cell at Arkham. Riddler keeps asking himself, “Who is the Batman?”
They assess the situation as they walk through the halls. Gordon tells him it might have to go back to how it was.
Bruce nods. He stops at a heavy security door. It reads “Cells 220-229. Authorized Entry Only.”
Gordon sighs. “Why don’t you give it a rest? He’s well under lock and key, 24 hour surveillance; where’s he gonna go?”
“I feel better if I see him with my own eyes.”
“Well I’m gotta head home,” Gordon says. “Wife wants me back for dinner. It’s my daughter’s 16th Birthday. I’m already late.”
“Gordon. Thanks.”
“For?”
“Everything.”
“You don’t have to thank me. And you never will.”

Bruce goes in. The usual psych intern isn’t at her desk. It’s some new dude with glasses.

“Who are you here to see?”
“Patient 223. There’s usually a girl here who works with these patients, she usually let’s me in.”
“Harley had a dental appointment this morning. She hasn’t called in yet…. Strange.”
He shakes Bruce’s hand.
“Yes it is. Quite,” Bruce replies.
“No, my name. Dr. Hugo Strange. See?”
He hands Bruce a card.
“Oh, thanks.”
Bruce checks his briefcase through the metal detector.
Strange lets Bruce in.

Dolly out from Cell 223 and we see an ajar briefcase outside the door. Batman walks over to the bed. Joker is sitting in the darkness, wrapped up in a straight jacket, silent.

“What did you say to Nashton to drive him over the edge.”
Silence
“Answer me.”
Just uneasy laughing. It’s not like the Joker’s.
“I said…!”
Batman grabs the Joker and pulls him into the light. It’s Joker’s Thug from Dark Knight painted up to look like the joker. (I forget his name. He had the Rachel Dawes pin on in the ambulence. The actor’s name is David Dastmalchian.) His face is painted all except one on his forehead: “COMISH”

Gordon and his family are sitting down to a Birthday cake. They sing Happy Birthday to Barbara.
Barbara blows out the candles.
Gordon asks, “What’d you wish for.”
“That’s a secret” snaps Barbara Sr. “It won’t come true”
“No it’s okay, Mom. I just want to do more stuff like this. Y’know be together as a family more often.”
“Oh yeah…That would be nice,” Gordon jokes. “Now only if the city felt the same way.”
“Honey you’re Commissioner. They don’t need you to do the dirty work every second.”
“Try telling them that.”
Barbara sighs. They’re arguing again.
The doorbell rings.
“Ya see? And that’s exactly my point!”

Her parents too enveloped in the debate, Barbara gets up first to get the doorbell. She opens the door.

“Hi,” Joker wears vacation clothes and points a gun at Barbara with a big smile.

END.
 
i think that if theres one person in the world who could make it happen i think its nolan, batman beyond! i dont mean some cheesey sci fi batman film i want a real futuristic crime noir in the blade runner mould. i think it could be awesome, maybe even do the return of joker storyline.
 
MercuryEnigma, you have some very good ideas. The only 2 parts that could use some more work is the final confrontation (anti-climactic) and the ending (personally, I find it wrong to end a trilogy with a cliffhanger).
 
I personally want Bane to come in and break Batman.


My idea for Bane in the Nolanverse is a testosterone enhanced mountain of flesh that knows how to fight.
 

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