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Incredible Hulk director has been picked!

TheSaintofKillers said:
A) he knows how to get the right people for his movie (I mean god, he got TWO Yuen brothers, both Corey Yuen and Yu-woo-ping, how can you beat that ???). I wouldn't say bad things about a guy who chooses these kind of people.

Luc Besson chose and hired them not him

B) There is FAR more character development in Unleashed then there was in the first Hulk. While I am a fan of Ang Lee's hulk, he never got me to really care about his characters. While I truly got to feel sad about Danny in Unleashed and about his relation with Bob Hoskin, Morgan Freeman and that girl.

IVe seen both recently,while the charatcter devlopment of Danny is ok it's pretty straight forward compared with the depth in Hulk IMO

C) Unleashed had a great vision, unlike most action movies. It had style, way more than what you usually find on the market. It also helps that the action was brutal and fast, exactly what Hulk needs, imo.
I don't see the vision,it was a basic actioner like a Van Damme movie with a silly tournemant and over the top plot IMO
 
YJ1 said:
Considering that X3 and the Daredevil DC are BETTER movies then War of the Worlds, Munich and King Kong, that's a step down.

You have got to be joking right, havent seen Munich, and WOTW is on par with DD DC, but KING KONG wipes the floor with every Marvel movie.
 
As of now i'm thinking we are going to get a Fantastic Four/X3 type action movie with little character moments and average action scene's. But i want to give this guy a chance, so i'll see what he comes up with over the next 18 months.
 
I'm a little confused.....the announcment of the Incredible Hulk director...stated they were making a new big screen adaptation and will return to the roots of the long running comic....

This doesn't state at all that this is a sequel to the first movie starring Eric Bana.....it sounds like its a different movie all together.
 
It's already been stated this will take place after the events of the first film and it will further develop the characters including General Ross. This might not be a direct sequel as far as a continuing storyline from the first film, but it will take place after the first film and continue the characters development. Already confirmed.
 
AVEITWITHJAMON said:
You have got to be joking right, havent seen Munich, and WOTW is on par with DD DC, but KING KONG wipes the floor with every Marvel movie.

That's your opinion. Kong was a horrible film IMO. Peter Jackson dropped the ball turning an awesome story into a sequence of over the top ridiculous action sequences. It did have a great beginning and a great last 30 minutes but the meat in the middle was rotten. I'm tired of seeing clumsy dinosaurs that can't capture the lead characters but are lethally agile vs minor characters. The Jeff Bridges Kong had a better start to finsih storyline, and was more satisfying. No the F/x was not comparable but the characters (within the ficitonal world) were convincing in their actions. Kong had his moments with the girl and yeah the visuals were stunning but the rest was empty..and for a 3 hour film that's bad.

Munich was awesome.

War of the Worlds was the worst remake IMO of all time. Spielberg turned a classic into a F/X maze for Tom Cruise and tried to emotionalize the story by adding a broken family element to it. Total crap. I'd watch the original version 20 times before I watch the new one ever again.
 
WOTW was great IMO with a good emotional story against the background of the invasion which thankfully didn't end with the americans flying a ship up to kill them,and the original was the drizzling sh1ts with Adam west level acting and crappy effects
Kong was to long but compared to the tonally messed up DD and the videogame drivel of X3 it was a masterpiece IMO
 
Advanced Dark said:
That's your opinion. Kong was a horrible film IMO. Peter Jackson dropped the ball turning an awesome story into a sequence of over the top ridiculous action sequences. It did have a great beginning and a great last 30 minutes but the meat in the middle was rotten. I'm tired of seeing clumsy dinosaurs that can't capture the lead characters but are lethally agile vs minor characters. The Jeff Bridges Kong had a better start to finsih storyline, and was more satisfying. No the F/x was not comparable but the characters (within the ficitonal world) were convincing in their actions. Kong had his moments with the girl and yeah the visuals were stunning but the rest was empty..and for a 3 hour film that's bad.

Your having a laugh AD, i stopped reading when you said the Jeff Bridges Kong was better, no offense but that is one of the most ridiculous statments i've ever heard.

And the action scene's in Kong are no more over the top than the Hulk or any other Marvel movie one's so i dont see how you can make that claim.
 
I'll take X3 over Kong anyday. At least in X3 you know the characters are capable of super feats, and accept this from the start. Seeing Jack Black outrun raptors with camera equipment on his back while running under stampeding Bronts, seeing guys swining from vines down 300ft chasms with one arm shooting bugs off peoples backs without hitting them, seeing the girl outrun dino's, watching the endless clumsy dino's, Jack Black climbing up a vine to crawl out of the chasm, the girl and Brody's character hugging while bats with 10ft wingspans attack Kong but ignore them, watching the tribespeople pole vault 200ft, ignoring the tribespeople after they run away. Never haivng any moments with Kong on the ship like in the 76 version or even explaining how the carried him on the ship to begin with, the method at which they girl was caught by Kong and how Jack took him down...all just horrible. I loved all the older Kong films. Kong did way less than expected at the box office here in the US because it was too long and the film was filled with so much garbage. Yeah it made over 200 million but expectations were for 400 million by every analyst with some saying it might break Titanics domestic run.
 
I'd take Kong simply b/c it had good acting and was beautifully crafted despite being overlong,X3 felt like a videogame my 6 year old nephew plays
 
AVEITWITHJAMON said:
Your having a laugh AD, i stopped reading when you said the Jeff Bridges Kong was better, no offense but that is one of the most ridiculous statments i've ever heard.

And the action scene's in Kong are no more over the top than the Hulk or any other Marvel movie one's so i dont see how you can make that claim.

The Jeff Bridges Kong had a better story. Ignore the F/X for a moment and think about the story. Yeah the Hulk had more over the top action but that was "The Hulk". Once you accept the Hulk and what he can do the rest of the story should fit around that. I accepted Skull Island, and the fact that Dino's and Kong existed in that film...but all the stupid action sequences and events around it on the Island didn't fit in. Jack Black was not a mutant, the first mate was suddenly a marksman while flying on a vine, the clumsy dino's. Haven't we seen enough of them in the Jurassic Park films and Godzilla. These supposdely normal humans were doing some pretty amazing feats. I mean you have to go into the film suspending disbelief about the theme and the main character "KONG" but not about everything else. It was just bad. I'm glad you and others enjoyed it but in all honesty the 76 verision was a better story.
 
Advanced Dark said:
The Jeff Bridges Kong had a better story. Ignore the F/X for a moment and think about the story. Yeah the Hulk had more over the top action but that was "The Hulk". Once you accept the Hulk and what he can do the rest of the story should fit around that. I accepted Skull Island, and the fact that Dino's and Kong existed in that film...but all the stupid action sequences and events around it on the Island didn't fit in. Jack Black was not a mutant, the first mate was suddenly a marksman while flying on a vine, the clumsy dino's. Haven't we seen enough of them in the Jurassic Park films and Godzilla. These supposdely normal humans were doing some pretty amazing feats. I mean you have to go into the film suspending disbelief about the theme and the main character "KONG" but not about everything else. It was just bad. I'm glad you and others enjoyed it but in all honesty the 76 verision was a better story.

You do know the 76 version is regarded as one of the worst re-makes ever right? And i dont like Kong for its SFX, i like it for its STORY as you previously mentioned. Especially the journey that Anne, Kong and Jack go on, i mean look at them at the start of the movie compared to the end, they are all completely different characters, even Kong, who was when we first met him "Just a dumb animal." Compare the Kong that was about to eat Anne to the one that saves her life at the end and does not want to let go of her. If that isnt a story i dont know what is.
 
Sniff Sniff Sniff...........what's that smell?

Smells like a comicbook movie being done on the cheap again. Honestly, a Hulk movie with a budget in the $100 mil. range? I smell cheap CGI and cost cutting scenes designed to limit the amount/cost of CGI, i.e., screen time for the big guy. LOL!!, I guess the Hulk will make a brief appearance at the beginning. A brief appearance in the middle and an extended appearance at the end.

......On the other hand (to be fair), they may take the approach of the first Spm film; fun, exciting and entertaining with heart, yet still somewhat conservative in retrospect.

Not a bad approach business wise. It gives Marvel a chance to get wet without risking getting soaked. If it succeeds, it's money in the bank and Marvel can use it to buid their warchest so to speak for future films. Maybe Marvel has finally learned that if they want it done right (and reap the majority of the profit) they have to do it themselves.

I'll remain cautiously pessimistic/optimistic on this one as it developes. At least that way I can go either way. :D
 
Advanced Dark said:
War of the Worlds was the worst remake IMO of all time. Spielberg turned a classic into a F/X maze for Tom Cruise and tried to emotionalize the story by adding a broken family element to it. Total crap. I'd watch the original version 20 times before I watch the new one ever again.
WOTW was a stunning piece of film, the only bad thing was the ending but even with that, WOTW beats DD or any comic book film IMO, its just well made, great story and the CGI is breath taking, this film took 3 months to make for god sake, CGI in this is better than the ones in KK IMO.
 
Advanced Dark said:
The Jeff Bridges Kong had a better story. Ignore the F/X for a moment and think about the story. Yeah the Hulk had more over the top action but that was "The Hulk". Once you accept the Hulk and what he can do the rest of the story should fit around that. I accepted Skull Island, and the fact that Dino's and Kong existed in that film...but all the stupid action sequences and events around it on the Island didn't fit in. Jack Black was not a mutant, the first mate was suddenly a marksman while flying on a vine, the clumsy dino's. Haven't we seen enough of them in the Jurassic Park films and Godzilla. These supposdely normal humans were doing some pretty amazing feats. I mean you have to go into the film suspending disbelief about the theme and the main character "KONG" but not about everything else. It was just bad. I'm glad you and others enjoyed it but in all honesty the 76 verision was a better story.

PJ's Kong was rare cinema magic. The guy is simply a cinema artist.

Kong was supposed to be a fantasy piece, plain and simple, not Juraissic Park. It was moreso in the vein of the original film than the 70's flick. The 70s flick is what it is for that time and era, and it shows. Not so much f/x wise of course but just the approach alone was rather simplistic and typical. It was a modern day remake for it's time and not much else.

PJ's Kong was a remake of the original. Only instead of being a monster flick and not much else, it actually had interesting characters. Hell even Kong was made a character rather than just being a device.
 
Jackson's Kong was outstanding. Great story and effects. I loved it, though I am only going to wait to see the extended cut before buying it. Spielberg's WOTW was garbage. It was lazy. It had an extremely weak story, poor acting, useless moments, and a terrible ending. I hated it. Munich, on the other hand, was fantastic. Spielberg did a good job on that one.

X3 and DD: DC were good, but Munich and King Kong trump them. I however liked the first Hulk more than those two movies.
 
I really love the first one, I'm taking a wait and see aproach with this one. Hope it isn't all just Hulk smash type of stuff.
 
thegameq said:
Sniff Sniff Sniff...........what's that smell?

Smells like a comicbook movie being done on the cheap again. Honestly, a Hulk movie with a budget in the $100 mil. range? I smell cheap CGI and cost cutting scenes designed to limit the amount/cost of CGI, i.e., screen time for the big guy. LOL!!, I guess the Hulk will make a brief appearance at the beginning. A brief appearance in the middle and an extended appearance at the end.

......On the other hand (to be fair), they may take the approach of the first Spm film; fun, exciting and entertaining with heart, yet still somewhat conservative in retrospect.

Not a bad approach business wise. It gives Marvel a chance to get wet without risking getting soaked. If it succeeds, it's money in the bank and Marvel can use it to buid their warchest so to speak for future films. Maybe Marvel has finally learned that if they want it done right (and reap the majority of the profit) they have to do it themselves.

I'll remain cautiously pessimistic/optimistic on this one as it developes. At least that way I can go either way. :D


I don't know where you're from, but 100 million dollars is a lot of money.

Superman Returns managed to spend over twice as much, and that movie is still @SS. IMO, of course. :)

Who needs a bunch of CG and crap anyway? Just give me a compelling story with good performances, slick direction, awesome photography and I'm set. Use SMART digital effects, not just soaking everything with the money hose. More money does not a good movie make.
 
thegameq said:
PJ's Kong was rare cinema magic. The guy is simply a cinema artist.

Kong was supposed to be a fantasy piece, plain and simple, not Juraissic Park. It was moreso in the vein of the original film than the 70's flick. The 70s flick is what it is for that time and era, and it shows. Not so much f/x wise of course but just the approach alone was rather simplistic and typical. It was a modern day remake for it's time and not much else.

PJ's Kong was a remake of the original. Only instead of being a monster flick and not much else, it actually had interesting characters. Hell even Kong was made a character rather than just being a device.

I didn't see Kong as a Fantasy piece and never had. I saw it as an action flick with some fantasylike fiction Island and beasts. The people were not trolls, elves, warlocks, and mutants. The part of the film on the Island (which looked beautiful) was poorly done by Jackson. He was so worried about filling the screen with bad action and creatures attacking he forgot the damn story. I thought they could have spent much more time with Kong & the girl on the Island, much more time with dealing with the tribes people, much more of an elaborate capturing of Kong, and more time on the ship on the way back from the Island. It wasn't done good at all. Jackson is talented as proven in Lord of the Rings no doubt, but in my opinion he screwed up. Everyone is so high on Jackson because of LOTR they are rating Kong based on that. LOL
 
Ugh... from ang lee to the guy that did transporter 2. THIS SUCKS! What the hell is Marvel thinking.
 
I'm happy as hell. Ang Lee is a great director and he did fine but not widely acceptable Hulk film for the fans. There's no denying The Transporter was an excellent action film with great fight sequences and a style of it's own. Not bad considering it had no budget and at the time no-name actors to most of us here. Part 2 was not as good because he went overboard. Statham did nothing wrong, the script was to out of whack. The Hulk script better be out of whack. I want some crazy action sequences just as intense as the desert battle in the first film...but put it in an Urban setting this time. I want to see The Hulk destroy things other than sand dunes and tanks. Danny Boy/Unleashed was also a strange but well done action film that also recieved critical praise. Now this guy get's a heft budget and the tools make him work. I want to make sure they give him enough to make the film right but not too much whereas he gets lazy and loses creativity like Lucas did w/Star Wars in the latest round of films.
 
Advanced Dark said:
I'm happy as hell. Ang Lee is a great director and he did fine but not widely acceptable Hulk film for the fans. There's no denying The Transporter was an excellent action film with great fight sequences and a style of it's own. Not bad considering it had no budget and at the time no-name actors to most of us here. Part 2 was not as good because he went overboard. Statham did nothing wrong, the script was to out of whack. The Hulk script better be out of whack. I want some crazy action sequences just as intense as the desert battle in the first film...but put it in an Urban setting this time. I want to see The Hulk destroy things other than sand dunes and tanks.

Im willing to give him a chance but surely you can see why some fans arent happy that we are going from a world class director to a B movie action director and Transporter didn't have a style of his own,it's the same style seen in a ton of HK movies and a lot of US actioners since The Matrix
This could be Leterrier's film to shine and show what he can do but i hope that includes a good story as well as smashing things up
 
Munich and King Kong were great. WotW was medicore.

DD was between medicore and shlt. X3 was shlt.
 

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