James Bond In Skyfall - - - Part 12

[TheVileOne]

Road Warrior, it's IMHO hard to compare movies to releases in the 1960's. I mean I'm not sure Thunderball if it was released today if it would make that much money.

 

[Golgo-13]

Ticket Sales

Thunderball - 78.4 million
Goldfinger - 66.3 million
You Only Live Twice - 35.9 million
Skyfall - 28.4 million
Moonraker - 28 million

Ticket Sales per actor

Sean Connery - 266.5 million (6 movies + Never Say Never Again)
Roger Moore - 135.4 million (7 movies)
Pierce Brosnan - 103.6 million (4 movies)
Daniel Craig - 77.2 million as of 11/25/12 (3 movies)
Timothy Dalton - 21.7 million (2 movies)
George Lazenby - 16 million (1 movie)

Well in the defense of the other actors, back in Connery's early days there was no such thing as a dvd or vhs (or less people owned vhs) releases, so if you wanted to see a movie you had better catch it on the big screen. That's why his numbers are higher.

 

[The Englishman]

Golgo-13, I see you have the love of my life in your avatar, the quite beautiful Hayley Atwell. You know she would look good in Bond 24....t:

 

[TheVileOne]

I fully support Hayley Atwell playing a Bond girl or a Doctor Who companion.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Road Warrior, it's IMHO hard to compare movies to releases in the 1960's. I mean I'm not sure Thunderball if it was released today if it would make that much money.

Well in the defense of the other actors, back in Connery's early days there was no such thing as a dvd or vhs (or less people owned vhs) releases, so if you wanted to see a movie you had better catch it on the big screen. That's why his numbers are higher.

It wouldn't make as much. More people went to the movies in the 60s because of the reasons you said above, in addition to cheaper tickets and no Internet. Also, Bond is still big, but he's not as huge a pop culture phenomenon and keep in mind those movies were released before the 70s which marked the rise of the Boockbuster which eventually lead to more emphasis in special effects.

It hard to compare the box office of today to previous decade before the 70s at least.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah pretty much.

For starters people almost never go to the movies anymore. **** people aren't even watching TV on TV anymore! They watch it on their computers or their ****ing iPads!

So for a theatrical Bond movie to do this well in this day and age even with higher ticket prices is pretty amazing.

 

[El Hombre Gato]

I'm not sure Thunderball if it was released today if it would make that much money.

In terms of spectacle, scope, and special effects, Thunderball was one of the biggest movies of its day. That's why it was so successful. The James Bond franchise, in general, is a "standard" action movie series. But Thunderball wasn't quite that. It had groundbreaking, and Academy Award Winning, effects sequences. The underwater battle scene, for today's standards, is slow and boring. But at the time, it blew people away.

Look at the 5 most successful Bond movies. Three of them are Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, and Moonraker. What do these three films have in common? They're effects-heavy, cartoonish, and over-the-top. It's the elephant in the room that Bond fans don't like to acknowledge. Audiences love it when Bond is more fantastical. Goldfinger and Skyfall seem to be the exception. Although... Goldfinger was pretty out-there as well.

back in Connery's early days there was no such thing as a dvd or vhs, so if you wanted to see a movie you had better catch it on the big screen.

Dr. No - 18.9 million
FRWL - 26.6 million
Goldfinger - 66.3 million
Thunderball - 74.8 million
YOLT - 35.9 million
DAF - 26.5 million
NSNA - 17.5 million

The ticket sales (and box office adjusted gross) for Goldfinger and Thunderball are WAY higher than the rest of the Connery films. As well as the rest of the James Bond series. Those are the two gorillas in the franchise and they always will be. Sean Connery will always benefit because he starred in the two mega-hits the franchise had.

 

[The Englishman]

I fully support Hayley Atwell playing a Bond girl or a Doctor Who companion.

Hayley Atwell can play anyone she wants. Emily Blunt too....

 

[Liam_H]

Unlikely. Especially with The Hobbit a few weeks away.

Worldwide Update

Domestic: $221,720,000 28.1%
+ Foreign: $568,400,000 71.9%
= Worldwide: $790,120,000

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=bond23.htm

Which part are you doubting? I believe $1 billion WW is essentially locked at this point, and it might have a chance of approaching TDKR.

 

[Superhero 101]

How many other countries does skyfall open in?

 

[Liam_H]

The two big ones would be Japan and China and I think maybe Australia.

 

[El Hombre Gato]

$1 billion WW is essentially locked at this point

Is it? It has two weeks before The Hobbit kills it. Do you think it'll gross $210 million in two weeks? It has only grossed $61 million internationally in the last 5 days. And domestically, it won't have anymore big weekends. I think it'll come close to a billion... maybe like $950 million. Let's also not forget that Twilight is big competition as well. $350 million internationally after only 2 weeks of release. That's only $218 million less than Skyfall and Skyfall has been in theaters since October. So, Twilight is affecting Skyfall as well.

 

[Liam_H]

The big markets left to contribute to the OS total are still Australia, Japan, and China. I expect at least around $100-120 million from those markets. Another $50 million at least from the domestic front so it'll get there. There is still 3 weeks since the The Hobbit which will certainly slow down its pace.

Twilight is Twilight it always has its audience, this movie was suppose to make more than Skyfall in the first place so the fact that Bond is gonna outgross it WW is already impressive.

 

[El Hombre Gato]

I expect at least around $100-120 million from those markets. Another $50 million at least from the domestic front

That's $170 million. $40 million short from a billion. Skyfall is at $790 million. It needs $210 million to reach the goal.

the fact that Bond is gonna outgross it WW is already impressive.

I don't think it will. Skyfall has been in theaters since October 26th and has grossed $790 million. Breaking Dawn 2 opened two weeks ago and it's already at $577 million. And like Skyfall, it hasn't opened in Asia yet. These two movies will be neck-and-neck when it's all said and done.

 

[Call Me Darkman]

Thunderball is still #1. $966 million worldwide. People tend to forget that Thunderball was the Star Wars/LOTR/Harry Potter/Batman/Spider-Man of its day. No Bond film is ever gonna match it -- unless a truly special/unique installment is released.

That's outdated info. Thunderball's gross, adjusted for 2012, is $1.022 Billion. It's the only Bond film to reach a billion.

As for Skyfall, I say $270 million domestic and maybe $970 million worldwide.

 

[Liam_H]

That's $170 million. $40 million short from a billion. Skyfall is at $790 million. It needs $210 million to reach the goal.

I said at least and there is still gonna be hold over from other countries etc.

 

[Doctor Jones]

It looked very cold to be hiding out in the open for a couple of 70yr olds..

Not to mention people of that age can't see or move as well across ice and just navigating in general. Especially since this is all in the dark.

 

[OcStat]

Finally got to see this movie last night, and I enjoyed it thoroughly. Great villain.

 

[Bruce Malone]

1 billion is far from locked for Skyfall. Most estimates have it topping out at around $900 million.

I mean if you compare it to TDKR it made near $450m domestically, skyfall won't reach anywhere near that. As well i doubt it's overseas gross will be able to make up the difference there.

 

[Liam_H]

Obviously ~$300 million domestic is the limit for Skyfall so that means it needs at least $700 million overseas. So are you not factoring in three big markets it has to open in yet? With them $900 million WW is easily gone.

 

[TheVileOne]

Again, saying such and such movies made $1 billion is silly to me.

Thunderball was awesome and revolutionary for its time, but . . . it was revolutionary FOR ITS TIME. That time has passed.

For a Bond movie to be doing these numbers right now in this day and age is pretty impressive. None of the more recent and modern Bond movies have come close.

 

[Bruce Malone]

It's possible but it's still not probable as of now. I'm not sure how well james bond films do in china as well? I don't think they have anywhere near the impact the superhero films do. Also are we sure skyfall is getting a china release?

 

[Liam_H]

It is getting a China release but we don't know exactly when yet. In January or February of 2013 so it won't compete with their own movies. There are even rumors of it opening against The Hobbit to diminish the grosses of both movies.

 

[TheVileOne]

Why wouldn't it? Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace both had China releases.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Well the chinese gov't is super up-tight about any film that doesn't depict china in 100% positive light, see:TDK.

There are a few scenes that take place in china in skyfall as well that might ruffle some feathers. Even if it gets a chinese opening the practice has been to make foreign films compete so if it's up against the hobbit i don't see it making very much there.