Jesus Married

[E. Bison]

True, but like I said before. He had to follow all the commandments and one of them is "multiply and replenish the Earth."

I suppose it will be while before any of us know for sure though (unless you get run over or shot or something). And I don't think the answer is pertinant to our salvation, though it is fun to speculate.

The purpose of that commandment ended when Jesus was on Earth. The purpose of that commandment was just to populate the earth. It's why incest and polygamy were tolerated by God thousands of years before Christ because it fufilled this purpose. In the Greek Scriptures it is mentioned that it is at the benefit of a Christian to not be married since they can give more time to ministering. BUT if you cannot control your impulses than get married.

 

[Hades]

doesn't it ever get annoying having to post Bisons face with every post

 

[DarthRekal]

Just idiots thinking marraige is a self contained hell

it's not

 

[E. Bison]

doesn't it ever get annoying having to post Bisons face with every post

 

[Hades]

Alright....

 

[JewishHobbit]

I think I remember reading this as well. Though when I read it I didn't think he meant staying single forever, though my beliefs on the subject could have influenced that. If you know what scripture it is that would be great.

I Corinthians 7: 6-9, 32-33

Paul speaking:

"But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. For I would that all men were even as I myself (unmarried). But every man hath his proper give of God, one after this manner, and another after that. I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn (or sin)."

"But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: But he that is married careth for the things that are of the wworld, how he may please his wife."

and it goes on from there as well. The whole chapter deals a lot with Paul's opinion of marraige.

 

[Admiral_N8]

Jesus was too smart to get married

 

[Asteroid-Man]

"I will forgive whom I will forgive"

Now I don't know if he married Mary, but if He thought highly enough of a women to marry her, I really don't think we should question his judgement or refer to her in a way that is anything less that praising. If you can get eaten by she bears for calling a prophet bald, I really don't want to know what the punishment is for using derogatory terms for the Lord's wife.

Also mary was a princess. She wasn't realy a Chore, also we cant exactly trust the bible at this time can we? At one point the Vatican became dangerous. They would run scientists into the ground *cough*gallillayo's book proving the world is round*cough* also Jesus didnt write the Bible himself and the bible is over 2 milleniums old. The X-men ultimate guide had major differences in just 3 years, One difference is, wheres the book of Judas?

 

[Flame on!]

Umm even most secular historians believe he was real, that's pretty much not in question anymore but whatever

There's a difference between being real and actually existing. Yeah, a guy named Jesus was probly kicking around 2000years ago, but some guy turning water into wine did not.

 

[Admiral_N8]

There's a difference between being real and actually existing. Yeah, a guy named Jesus was probly kicking around 2000years ago, but some guy turning water into wine did not.

Behold this glass of water!

Now turn around....turn around....now...turn around.

Yay, I have turned the water into wine!

 

[Flame on!]

Behold this glass of water!

Now turn around....turn around....now...turn around.

Yay, I have turned the water into wine!

Thing is, that's probly what happened.

 

[Honey Vibe]

Umm even most secular historians believe he was real, that's pretty much not in question anymore but whatever

We've tried to tell Flame-on that several times, across many threads and across many years on Hype

 

[Flame on!]

We've tried to tell Flame-on that several times, across many threads and across many years on Hype

Keep reachin' for that rainbow, darlin'.

BUT!

In the spirit of the thread, I'll offer my opinion.

If Jesus got married, then they'll need to add a bit to history books. The end.

 

[Honey Vibe]

Behold this glass of water!

Now turn around....turn around....now...turn around.

Yay, I have turned the water into wine!

Not that I have an opinion either way, but how do you get a whole wedding party to not look? How do you get vessels that big (big enough for a man to get inside, according to the bible) to pour out water and pour enough wine in, without making any splash sound and without it taking a really long time to fill?

Just goes to show you bigots need to leave other people and their faith alone.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Also mary was a princess. She wasn't realy a Chore, also we cant exactly trust the bible at this time can we? At one point the Vatican became dangerous. They would run scientists into the ground *cough*gallillayo's book proving the world is round*cough* also Jesus didnt write the Bible himself and the bible is over 2 milleniums old. The X-men ultimate guide had major differences in just 3 years, One difference is, wheres the book of Judas?

I am so sick of this excuse. Let's just disregard all writings older than, say 50 years. As you stated, things can change quickly or be misquoted or whatever, so let's just throw the Illyad in the trash. Let's assume the Constitution is garbage and trash it. Gallillayo and Da'Vinci didn't know anything, all their stuff's been messed up over the years, this just in, they were actually hippies lesbians living in China, I heard it from some guy who read it on the internet, so it must be more true than their actual writings!!!! And I've just heard that Da'Vinci was actually married to Cher, she was in one of his paintings! Let's throw out the book of Judas, it was misinterpreted back in the 20's by a guy named Doug. Let's throw out everything, the past is fake!! We're in the Matrix!

Good lord people. If you want to go against the Bible and go against God that's your right, but stop using this crack excuse and actually do some research or have some meaning. If you're against religion, fine, but know that it's a very important decision that shouldn't be just thrown aside. Check to see how accurate the curent Bible is to the oldest manuscripts. Find people who's done the work and can tell you what it says. Check to see what God's done for people in the here and now, the miracles or the signs. Check those people (like me) who's had first hand encounters with SPIRITUAL warfare, and then tell me that it's all fake and stuff that's just been documented wrong. Check or research those people who know the histories (and not Dan Brown because he's been shown to have failed horribly at getting his historical facts straight). If you decide to claim the bible's crap, do research and learn the facts before just throwing out the claim.

 

[Honey Vibe]

Keep reachin' for that rainbow, darlin'.

BUT!

In the spirit of the thread, I'll offer my opinion.

If Jesus got married, then they'll need to add a bit to history books. The end.

I think you just hate that religion so much that you can't concede to even the most trivial things, like the existence of their religious leader. Most people who are not Christian don't take their beliefs all the way over into fundamentalism like you do.

 

[Flame on!]

I think you just hate that religion so much that you can't concede to even the most trivial things, like the existence of their religious leader. Most people who are not Christian don't take their beliefs all the way over into fundamentalism like you do.

I don't hate that religion. I'm ammused by it. It's like we, as aethiests, can throw scientific proofs after scientific proofs at Christians etc and they just shout "Oh yeah? Well we have faith! We win! Lalalalala *fingers in ears* lalalala"

I'm often berated for not being open to possibilities, but it should work both ways.

I respect the idea behind faith, but I have no respect for organised religion that adheres to a stict doctrine of do's and don't's.

Now, the thread was in regards as to the debate surrounded Jesus and marriage, but I'm not going to apologise if I treat it the same way I'd treat a smilar thread regarding Batman and marriage.

 

[Admiral_N8]

Thing is, that's probly what happened.

Its a South Park thang.

 

[Admiral_N8]

Not that I have an opinion either way, but how do you get a whole wedding party to not look? How do you get vessels that big (big enough for a man to get inside, according to the bible) to pour out water and pour enough wine in, without making any splash sound and without it taking a really long time to fill?

Just goes to show you bigots need to leave other people and their faith alone.

What a silly post, maybe you should not pretend to know whoever youre talking to??

I am a Christian too.

I accept your apology.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I don't hate that religion. I'm ammused by it. It's like we, as aethiests, can throw scientific proofs after scientific proofs at Christians etc and they just shout "Oh yeah? Well we have faith! We win! Lalalalala *fingers in ears* lalalala"

I'm often berated for not being open to possibilities, but it should work both ways.

I respect the idea behind faith, but I have no respect for organised religion that adheres to a stict doctrine of do's and don't's.

Now, the thread was in regards as to the debate surrounded Jesus and marriage...

Sorry, but your scientific 'proof' (much of which relies on theories by the way) isn't anywhere as great as my spiritual experiences. Unless someone can explain to me how I regained my vision 100% when the doctors told me I wouldn't regain but maybe half after I was blinded for 2 weeks in a car accident, as something other than God, feel free. (even the doctor asked if I pray, I said yes, and he said that's the only way I was healed). If you can scientifically explain away how me and two other friends were attacked by demons ('channeling' through my two friends) and our prayers repelled them for nearly 4 hours in Boise Idaho during a revival we ran, then feel free. If you can explain away the angel I saw while praying a few years back, hey, I want to hear it. If you can explain away how when I pray, things happen that I can't explain, and you can't explain, and science can't explain hey, have a go. Because you can put your scientific 'proof' on the table all you want, but I know that it's not worth a dime.

 

[Strange]

There's a difference between being real and actually existing. Yeah, a guy named Jesus was probly kicking around 2000years ago, but some guy turning water into wine did not.

Chris Angel turned water into beer and he's is alive and exists.

 

[Flame on!]

Sorry, but your scientific 'proof' (much of which relies on theories by the way) isn't anywhere as great as my spiritual experiences. Unless someone can explain to me how I regained my vision 100% when the doctors told me I wouldn't regain but maybe half after I was blinded for 2 weeks in a car accident, as something other than God, feel free. (even the doctor asked if I pray, I said yes, and he said that's the only way I was healed). If you can scientifically explain away how me and two other friends were attacked by demons ('channeling' through my two friends) and our prayers repelled them for nearly 4 hours in Boise Idaho during a revival we ran, then feel free. If you can explain away the angel I saw while praying a few years back, hey, I want to hear it. If you can explain away how when I pray, things happen that I can't explain, and you can't explain, and science can't explain hey, have a go. Because you can put your scientific 'proof' on the table all you want, but I know that it's not worth a dime.

I can't prove any of that with science because I'm not a scientist. However, if you were to submit yourself for further testings within a relelvant department, I'm sure they could get to bottom of it for you.

Intersting that you pointed out that science relying on theories is a questionable reliance. No more questionable than relying on faith, surely?

The door swings both ways, that's all I've ever been trying to get across.

 

[Underoath]

Sorry, but your scientific 'proof' (much of which relies on theories by the way) isn't anywhere as great as my spiritual experiences. Unless someone can explain to me how I regained my vision 100% when the doctors told me I wouldn't regain but maybe half after I was blinded for 2 weeks in a car accident, as something other than God, feel free. (even the doctor asked if I pray, I said yes, and he said that's the only way I was healed). If you can scientifically explain away how me and two other friends were attacked by demons ('channeling' through my two friends) and our prayers repelled them for nearly 4 hours in Boise Idaho during a revival we ran, then feel free. If you can explain away the angel I saw while praying a few years back, hey, I want to hear it. If you can explain away how when I pray, things happen that I can't explain, and you can't explain, and science can't explain hey, have a go. Because you can put your scientific 'proof' on the table all you want, but I know that it's not worth a dime.

Interesting...I have a family friend that has the spiritual gift of discernment in which he can see the spiritual world. I've heard interesting stories about it.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I can't prove any of that with science because I'm not a scientist. However, if you were to submit yourself for further testings within a relelvant department, I'm sure they could get to bottom of it for you.

Intersting that you pointed out that science relying on theories is a questionable reliance. No more questionable than relying on faith, surely?

The door swings both ways, that's all I've ever been trying to get across.

Funnything is, with all that I've been through and seen. It's no longer a faith thing with me. It's fact. Where theories are still theories, my faith has become fact. I find that comforting.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Interesting...I have a family friend that has the spiritual gift of discernment in which he can see the spiritual world. I've heard interesting stories about it.

I've been able to feel when angels or demons are around. It's odd. One of my best friends has physically seen 2 demons in his life. This stuff use to scare me, but not any more. There was a demon in my mother's house (she believed it to be a ghost) and it did things every day. It'd scream through the house, it'd slam doors or throw things. It walked up and down the steps, or just made a ruckus in the basement. I was moved out and married by this time, but I had job problems and we had to move back in. I felt it and went straight to teh basement and spoke with authority in Jesus name that while I was there it is to do nothing and leave everyone under that house alone. I lived there for a year and there was a problem from the day I moved in. The very night I left a year later, my mother told me it came back and was worse than ever. They moved out a month later and the house was tore down. How can any scientist explain that away I wonder? My words worked. I never told the rest of my family about my prayers, but they all knew something happened. Funny stuff.

But yeah, it's neat being able to feel them. I'm actually not quite where I have been spiritually and miss the feelings God use to give me. I'm getting back to it though.