Justice League Status Updates Thread

[MadVillainy]

agreed.

 

[roach]

Justice League 2 or Justice League 3 needs to be an adaptation of "Justice".

If the studio removes the more unnecessary characters and streamlines the story a little bit (Mostly the pacing and the ending), this would be a fantastic movie.

the magnitude of geekgasms would be overpowering

 

[Artistsean]

I think DC has been good with people removing their masks. In BB and TDK i dont rmember, but Im 99% sure Bruce didnt remove his mask. Same wth GL I think and then of course with Superman it doesn't matter

That is so true, it is mostly Marvel that has the problem of their heroes removing their masks to show the actors face. Even the bad guys do that.
But DC has been good about not needing to do that, I even wanted a scene in Begins where we saw Bruce without the Bat-mask to get that cool Bruce is Batman and he is awesome thing, and they didn't do it. Green Lantern didn't either, so thats good.
Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, they don't wear masks so there would be no problem there anyway. Batman, Green Lantern, and Flash would be the only ones we need to worry about. And of coarse Martian Manhunter will need to be in make up most all the time, except when he is hiding as a human.

 

[Lencho01]

Justice League 2 or Justice League 3 needs to be an adaptation of "Justice".

If the studio removes the more unnecessary characters and streamlines the story a little bit (Mostly the pacing and the ending), this would be a fantastic movie.

I've always thought this was a good template to work off of for a film.

 

[Lone]

I don't know how well it would go over with the audience but I would like to see Starro as the baddie in a JL movie and have Superman be under it's control for a good part of the movie.

Evil Superman beating the crap out of everyone = win.

 

[Artistsean]

I don't know how well it would go over with the audience but I would like to see Starro as the baddie in a JL movie and have Superman be under it's control for a good part of the movie.

Evil Superman beating the crap out of everyone = win.

I could see, sort of like [BLACKOUT]Justice[/BLACKOUT], the bad guy you think is the main bad guy (or bad guys) is actually being controlled by someone or something else behind the scenes, like Starro. Imagine if Lex Luther leads the Injustice League against the JLA. Its a big epic thing, Earth shattering event. He will bring together for the first time the bad guys who will destroy the JLA and he will lead them all. In the end they are all under the control of Starro who also takes control of Superman and maybe others. Maybe Batman is the only one who is free and has to stop the rest of the JLA and snap them out of it in time to save the day.
But on its own I can't see Starro beingt taken seriously by the studios. I think that might also be why they changed it in the New 52 to Darkseid as their first enemy instead of Starro.
But a sort of semi Zombie movie could be cool. Starro takes control of Luther and through Luther is able to take control of the Injustice League, and then most of the JLA, and maybe a large number of civilians like Lois, Alfred, Iris, Ma and Pa Kent, Perry, Gordon, Carol, etc. The JLA would in fact save the entire planet from a massive threat.

So the story would go something like this. Lex Luthor builds the Injustice League (never called that in the movie) and to counter them the heroes form the JLA. Although being a team was not the intention and they don't see they are a tam yet. Its all a ploy by the true threat behind it all, Starro. He takes control of most of the JLA and many armies of civilians, including their loved ones. Batman ends up being the last one not under Starro's control. He figures out how to free the JLA one by one, gaining their help as he frees them. In the end the JLA stop Starro, free everyone, including the Injustice League, and are now seen all over the world as great heroes. They decide to band together every time there is a threat that one hero can't stop (but without sounding like the Avengers).

I also love the idea of the main enemy in the movie being AMAZO. They often times have the hero fighting his evil twin in the movie, like Iron Monger, Abomination, Red Skull, Ras al Ghul, some bad guy who shares their powers, origin, etc. Maybe AMAZO needs to be saved till JLA 2, but he would be a great bad guy for them to fight. A robot who can copy all their powers. He might require being in a sequel to make sense how a scientist would copy their powers or why he would. But maybe AMAZO is created using all their powers and the JLA band together to stop this robot and end up becoming a team. The main enemy would in the end be Ivo and his AMAZO android but also his robot minions.

 

[The Guard]

So we've arrived at "They should fight EVERYONE". Heh. I think that's a testament to the stength of th JLA concept. That they have so many powerful enemies and possibilities.

While the idea of a Legion of Doom/Injustice Gang/Crime Syndicate storyline is awesome, I don't think it would end up terribly satisfying. There just wouldn't be enough screentime to do all the characters justice.

I think "aliens" are kind of what the JLA does. The idea that they, themselves are aliens who people might reasonably fear or misunderstand, who nontheless protect against worse threats, intrigues me. Just because Marvel is featuring an alien invasion in The Avengers doesn't mean that using a godlike alien wouldn't work well.

I don't see Starro making for a very interesting main villain. I don't really want villains who are mind controlled, I want villains who are motivated. Starro was actually a cameo in the JL: MORTAL script at the end. Sort of their first "threat" as a new league.

In my opinion, things like Starro, Amazo and even the concept of the Legion of Doom or The Injustice Gang, should be background or supporting elements in a Justice League franchise. Not main threats.

Main threats are characters like:
Darkseid
Vandal Savage
Lex Luthor
Mongul
Despero

 

[Lencho01]

I thought "Justice" handled things well. Some villains got more focus than others of course since they were the ones pulling the strings. What I loved most about it was how it explored how such a group can't work because they're all too evil and/or look out for themselves. It's bound to all just fall apart. Would be interesting to see something like that on screen.

I also like The Light plot currently on Young Justice.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

So we've arrived at "They should fight EVERYONE". Heh. I think that's a testament to the stength of th JLA concept. That they have so many powerful enemies and possibilities.

While the idea of a Legion of Doom/Injustice Gang/Crime Syndicate storyline is awesome, I don't think it would end up terribly satisfying. There just wouldn't be enough screentime to do all the characters justice.

I think "aliens" are kind of what the JLA does. The idea that they, themselves are aliens who people might reasonably fear or misunderstand, who nontheless protect against worse threats, intrigues me. Just because Marvel is featuring an alien invasion in The Avengers doesn't mean that using a godlike alien wouldn't work well.

I don't see Starro making for a very interesting main villain. I don't really want villains who are mind controlled, I want villains who are motivated. Starro was actually a cameo in the JL: MORTAL script at the end. Sort of their first "threat" as a new league.

In my opinion, things like Starro, Amazo and even the concept of the Legion of Doom or The Injustice Gang, should be background or supporting elements in a Justice League franchise. Not main threats.

Main threats are characters like:
Darkseid
Vandal Savage
Lex Luthor
Mongul
Despero

You can have them be the villians in a JL film franchise and it can work out if they just use a few villians that are the important ones. LOD can be used for the first film, IJL for the second and 3rd since they are a spinoff of the LOD and the Crime Syndicate for the 4th film. They can save Darkseid and his minions for the 5th and 6th film.

 

[Cain]

If they ever felt they wanted to introduce Starro in a movie I think it'd be best to go with the version from R.E.B.E.L.S.

I feel that version is a more credible threat while still sticking to the dynamic of manipulating others.

 

[Artistsean]

I think "aliens" are kind of what the JLA does. The idea that they, themselves are aliens who people might reasonably fear or misunderstand, who nontheless protect against worse threats, intrigues me. Just because Marvel is featuring an alien invasion in The Avengers doesn't mean that using a godlike alien wouldn't work well.

I think the JLA could fight the Hyperclan/White Martian invasion like in that story from the 90s:

The story could go like this:
The heroes are all operating as separate heroes, on their own. Then the Hyperclan shows up claiming to be the superhero team everyone wants. The public loves them. They make promises of a Utopia, and start drastically changing things. But the individual heroes don't trust them. Suddenly each hero, on their own, is attacked. They are forced to team up to take down the Hyperclan who turn out to be White Martians, Martian Manhunter knows all about them and could be the exposition on them. Batman could be the one who suspected it from the beginning. Superman is the leader that America trusts.
Once the White Martian Invasion is stopped the public loves the JLA and cries out for them to be the heroic team they need.
It could end with a scene like at the end of New Frontier, or the end of New 52's JLA, where the team is fighting Starro.

The idea would be showing why they are a team in the first place. They need one another in situations like this, and the world needs them.

I would love to see the JLA fight lots of different bad guys, like the White Martians, the Legion of Doom or the Injustice League, Starro and his mind controlled armies, Amazo, Mongul and his armies. etc. Maybe they could do it all, if they rotate the roster.

What if they combined Eclipso and Starro? Making Eclipso the human identity Starro uses on Earth. He possesses people and paints his face and such. Eclipso could be the bad guy used but instead of the crystal possessing people its Starro.

 

[protocida]

I'm not a fan of merging characters. Especially thematically different ones like Starro and Eclipso. Specially when it doesn't appear to be necessary.

 

[metaphysician]

If I were to choose villains for a JLA movie, hmm. . . I think for the first one I'd suggest using some variation on the Starro/Appelaxian/White Martian idea: basically, face the world with invading horrible monsters, with or without tentacles and/or mind control. Create something that requires teamwork amongst powerful heroes to beat.

Second movie would be the Injustice League, created as a response to the JLA: organized supervillains, who can match the JLA in power and tactics. To beat them, the JLA needs not just teamwork and cunning, but to apply themselves in new and creative ways to beat the real weakness of the enemy: that it is composed of largely selfish and evil people.

Third movie, Darkseid. Apokalips invades Earth. Organized invasion by armies of high tech space gods of vast power. Neither power nor teamwork alone is enough. Here, the real fight is one of moral character, victory through the will to stand even when victory is impossible.

 

[MadVillainy]

AS I said b4 I think OMACs would be the best

Set the story within the first 2 years of the super-powered beings appearing.

Have OMACs be a result of paranoia of superheroes. Waller and Lord helped have them built by CADMUS. But rather than have them be cyborgs, I say just have them be straight up robots, save for one. Have them have a colonel who commands them who is actually a guy in a modified, evolving suit.

Regular OMAC

The One OMAC Colonel

I think the OMAC technology could be from Martian Manhunter. J'onn came to earth years ago and was captured (sort of like the alien in Super 8). Through experiments, reverse engineering, and torture they find a lot about Martian tech, biology, etc. I think that gives J'onn a different reason than the reason that he would have for alien enemies.

J'onn calls for the heroes (like he did in the DCAU) to save him. That's what brings them together, saving J'onn. The thing that keeps them together are the OMACs

Long story, short the OMACs go rogue. No one hero can't stop them by himself/herself because there are too many. So they team up to take them out.

With OMACs:
-you dont run into the ideology difference of to kill or not to kill (I think WW and Aquaman are the only ones willing to kill) at least if you make most of them full robots
-you get an enemy where you can control their power. One thing I didnt like about the JL/JLU shows and other times when Batman teams up with other heroes. You can have it so that Batman can take on one while having Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and J'onn being able to fight multiples at one time
-you get to deal with the paranoia and distrust of Super beings
-you get something different from aliens. Who Superman fights already
-you get a cool looking villain. At least imo. I think OMACs look badass

 

[metaphysician]

The problem is, the whole premise needs to be centered on paranoia and mistrust of superheroes. This is a *bad idea for a JLA movie*. They are the JLA, not the X-Men.

 

[Lone]

I think the version of Starro posted by Cain would work. I definitely want to see Superman falling victim to Starro's mind control just so we get a 20 minute sequence of Supes wrecking his team mates and show everyone why "the big blue boyscout" isn't someone you wanna **** with. I want Superman to be the JL's Hulk in terms of audience reception.

A sequel could focus on Batman developing OMACS in the aftermath of the Starro invasion in case any other heroes or Superman gets mind-controlled or goes rogue again.

 

[MadVillainy]

The problem is, the whole premise needs to be centered on paranoia and mistrust of superheroes. This is a *bad idea for a JLA movie*. They are the JLA, not the X-Men.

THere has been paranoia and mistrust toward the league in various media. It's not a concept regulated to the X-Men only

 

[roach]

i say they are mistrusted and its not til they become the league that people trust them

 

[Artistsean]

The New 52 started the JLA in Paranoia and Mistrust. I think DC would be happy to have the movie tie into the comic.
The Paranoia would probably only last the 1st 3rd of the movie, the 2nd being the team getting together and fighting the main conflict, the 3rd being the public loving them as they save the day. Just like in the New 52 comic, but with OMACs instead of Darksied.

So like New 52 there are heroes, Green Lantern, Flash, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc. And the public doesn't know what to do with them. There is a lack of trust. Rumors that Superman is an alien, that Batman is a demon or not human, etc. the Government makes the OMACs and they could be like the Manhunters from GL, robots who follow orders too well and begin taking over. The JLA must stop them and save the day, as they start doing this more and more as a team the media is covering it and the public starts to like them. as they fight in the final conflict at the end of the film the public is in full support of the heroes who are going to save the day. When they do save the day, like in New 52, the media is all over them, and the White House gives them a special awards ceremony thingy to introduce them to the public as a team and they could like in the New 52 have to run off to save the day again (maybe from Starro).

 

[Red Mask]

i say they are mistrusted and its not til they become the league that people trust them

Those are not the heroes I grew up watching. If they can't be trusted before they're a team, then they needed to put leashes when they become one.

 

[hegemony]

OK I'm confused. WB/DC want to do JLA as a launching point for solo films, but Synder said Henry Cavill won't be Superman in a JLA film. Is Snyder's Superman in a separate universe like Nolan's?

 

[Lencho01]

OK I'm confused. WB/DC want to do JLA as a launching point for solo films, but Synder said Henry Cavill won't be Superman in a JLA film. Is Snyder's Superman in a separate universe like Nolan's?

Supposedly, WW and Flash would've spun off JLM when that was going to be made. As for now, who really knows? I think it's safe to assume a JLA film will have nothing to do with Snyder's Superman and especially Nolan's Batman if they ever make one. It's not like they are building towards it or creating hype for it.

What's funny is how one of the arguments against JLM was that solo films had to happen first, but word is that you don't have to see the solo films to enjoy Avengers as a film. It stands well enough on its own.

 

[MadVillainy]

The New 52 started the JLA in Paranoia and Mistrust. I think DC would be happy to have the movie tie into the comic.
The Paranoia would probably only last the 1st 3rd of the movie, the 2nd being the team getting together and fighting the main conflict, the 3rd being the public loving them as they save the day. Just like in the New 52 comic, but with OMACs instead of Darksied.

So like New 52 there are heroes, Green Lantern, Flash, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc. And the public doesn't know what to do with them. There is a lack of trust. Rumors that Superman is an alien, that Batman is a demon or not human, etc. the Government makes the OMACs and they could be like the Manhunters from GL, robots who follow orders too well and begin taking over. The JLA must stop them and save the day, as they start doing this more and more as a team the media is covering it and the public starts to like them. as they fight in the final conflict at the end of the film the public is in full support of the heroes who are going to save the day. When they do save the day, like in New 52, the media is all over them, and the White House gives them a special awards ceremony thingy to introduce them to the public as a team and they could like in the New 52 have to run off to save the day again (maybe from Starro).

Exactly

 

[roach]

Those are not the heroes I grew up watching. If they can't be trusted before they're a team, then they needed to put leashes when they become one.

yes its called doing something people hadn't seen before.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Supposedly, WW and Flash would've spun off JLM when that was going to be made. As for now, who really knows? I think it's safe to assume a JLA film will have nothing to do with Snyder's Superman and especially Nolan's Batman if they ever make one. It's not like they are building towards it or creating hype for it.

What's funny is how one of the arguments against JLM was that solo films had to happen first, but word is that you don't have to see the solo films to enjoy Avengers as a film. It stands well enough on its own.

I been saying that for years now. General audience know who Superman, Batman, WW, Flash, GL and Aquaman are., so do not have to do solo films first. They could just introduce Hawkman and MM in the first JL film like what Avengers is doing with Hawkeye.