BvS Lex Luthor Casting Thread - Part 3

[Lencho01]

I think Spacey was approached for Lex and Cage was slated to be Superman.

Hmm... part of me feels that Cage is big enough of a fan to have said, "Guys, I'd be a better Luthor than Superman."

 

[charl_huntress]

Lex looked and sounded like a White guy to me back then. He just happened to have a darker skin tone and fuller lips compared to some of the other characters.

I actually laughed when I first read some people thought he was Black years ago.

It was HILARIOUS. Now of course, STAS was a kids show so most of these folks were kids, but even after they were grown they never let go of this belief. During that time the DCAU was all there was if you were a DC fan...so...it was just crazy. That's all I can say. t:

 

[Lencho01]

It was HILARIOUS. Now of course, STAS was a kids show so most of these folks were kids, but even after they were grown they never let go of this belief. During that time the DCAU was all there was if you were a DC fan...so...it was just crazy. That's all I can say. t:

Well, it's not surprising. It's like when some people were asking why GL was White for the live-action film since they grew up on the DCAU and didn't bother look up more info one who's been GL in the comics and past toons.

 

[Wheels]

Cage could channel legitimate jealousy and envy playing Lex against Cavill's Superman lol.

 

[charl_huntress]

Well, it's not surprising. It's like when some people were asking why GL was White for the live-action film since they grew up on the DCAU and didn't bother look up more info one who's been GL in the comics and past toons.

Exactly...lol...lol. I wish I could find that thread, but one of the mods took it away because it was SO bad. It was vicious.

 

[Lencho01]

Cage could channel legitimate jealousy and envy playing Lex against Cavill's Superman lol.

I doubt he would. Probably would be all giddy to be making some money.

Exactly...lol...lol. I wish I could find that thread, but one of the mods took it away because it was SO bad. It was vicious.

For GL?

 

[charl_huntress]

For GL?

That was pretty bad too...but not as bad as Luthor. Those was some crazy times...lol. And if only you could imagine Hawkgirl and John....crazy times...lol

I still want someone like Hammer for Luthor. I want a younger type Lex and not a bald Lex until he's really hit rock bottom.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's nice to see someone else who likes Hammer. I mean I don't want him for Luthor but I that think he is a good actor.

 

[Lencho01]

That was pretty bad too...but not as bad as Luthor. Those was some crazy times...lol. And if only you could imagine Hawkgirl and John....crazy times...lol

I still want someone like Hammer for Luthor. I want a younger type Lex and not a bald Lex until he's really hit rock bottom.

Oh, ok.

I don't have a choice for a young Lex. For old Lex, I'd go with Kelsey Grammer. I'd want Lex bald either way.

 

[charl_huntress]

It's nice to see someone else who likes Hammer. I mean I don't want him for Luthor but I that think he is a good actor.

Hammer was really good in J. Edgar and The Social Network.

Oh, ok.

I don't have a choice for a young Lex. For old Lex, I'd go with Kelsey Grammer. I'd want Lex bald either way.

I don't want to get too off topic...but trust me when I say it was CRAZY.

On another note though...Kelsey Grammer??????

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This like the Batman casting thread, I hate 90% of the choices here as well.

 

[charl_huntress]

You know...I had no idea about Cavill when he was first announced. I used to seriously get his named confused with the guy on Person of Interest. Yet, seriously that dude is like one of the best damn Superman I've seen since Reeve. So...I'll give Synder the benefit of the doubt, but his track record worries me...a lot.

 

[Lencho01]

I don't want to get too off topic...but trust me when I say it was CRAZY.

On another note though...Kelsey Grammer??????

Yep, Kelsey Grammer. Boss is what helped me see the character in him. Again, only if they go with an older Lex.

 

[charl_huntress]

Hmmm...I'll check it out.

 

[Lencho01]

Hmmm...I'll check it out.

I thought it was a really good show and Grammer was great at playing Kane. The character was pretty evil and corrupt. He was a lot like a Luthor if the character was simply a politician.

You can check out some clips on YouTube, but they can't be posted here due to language.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I'm pretty sure his character was named Crane, Frasier Crane.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Jon Hamm is easily my favorite of the suggestions so far.

 

[Afrobean]

Oh, just thought of a problem with casting a Black man as Luthor.

Bald. Lex is bald. White men generally do not shave their head, except perhaps those who are naturally balding. Black men more frequently do it for fashion. This is probably because of the incorrect notions about "skinheads" and the negative connotations there.

But Lex is bald, usually because of failed science of some kind. Sometimes caused by Superman somehow. Him being bald is a tragedy for him and it brands Lex as "weird" looking. But a Black man being bald won't have the same impact. Culturally speaking, it's not nearly so unusual to see a young Black man with a clean-shaved head. A Lex who is bald but looks "normal" doesn't give the same feeling as the unusual-looking Lex who probably would never have chosen to be bald... and Lex would never shave his head just because of a receding hairline like some middle-aged men might.

And going with a Black actor would ruin the possibilities of seeing the wild red hair in one way or another. Flashbacks to childhood? Cloned body? And what of Con-El? Should he be made from Superman and Luthor's DNA, wouldn't that result in a "mixed" Superboy? That might be even more unnerving for middle America than the mere idea of Superman and Luthor essentially fathering a child together.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Oh, just thought of a problem with casting a Black man as Luthor.

Bald. Lex is bald. White men generally do not shave their head, except perhaps those who are naturally balding. Black men more frequently do it for fashion. This is probably because of the incorrect notions about "skinheads" and the negative connotations there.

But Lex is bald, usually because of failed science of some kind. Sometimes caused by Superman somehow. Him being bald is a tragedy for him and it brands Lex as "weird" looking. But a Black man being bald won't have the same impact. Culturally speaking, it's not nearly so unusual to see a young Black man with a clean-shaved head. A Lex who is bald but looks "normal" doesn't give the same feeling as the unusual-looking Lex who probably would never have chosen to be bald... and Lex would never shave his head just because of a receding hairline like some middle-aged men might.

And going with a Black actor would ruin the possibilities of seeing the wild red hair in one way or another. Flashbacks to childhood? Cloned body? And what of Con-El? Should he be made from Superman and Luthor's DNA, wouldn't that result in a "mixed" Superboy? That might be even more unnerving for middle America than the mere idea of Superman and Luthor essentially fathering a child together.

you're overthinking it, I somehow doubt any of those things would actually be an issue.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You know...I had no idea about Cavill when he was first announced. I used to seriously get his named confused with the guy on Person of Interest. Yet, seriously that dude is like one of the best damn Superman I've seen since Reeve. So...I'll give Synder the benefit of the doubt, but his track record worries me...a lot.

I've liked most of the performances in his films.

 

[Lencho01]

you're overthinking it, I somehow doubt any of those things would actually be an issue.

Agreed.

 

[Superman 1265]

"Oh hai... I heard you needed someone to play the role of Lex Luthor huh? "

 

[sf2]

Cage could channel legitimate jealousy and envy playing Lex against Cavill's Superman lol.

Nicholas cage is a great choice! Ya. He has good reason to hate Cavill's superman. Lol

 

[Kane52630]

Cage could channel legitimate jealousy and envy playing Lex against Cavill's Superman lol.

Totally.

 

[Rodrigo90]

"Oh hai... I heard you needed someone to play the role of Lex Luthor huh? "

"I will kill you, Superman....anyway, how's your sex life?"