Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - - - Part 12

[Kryptonian Titan]

In what world do you think a Superman/Batman team-up is going to get $2.8bil?

Avengers couldn't even break 2bil on its own (and I'm guessing the sequel might, considering Marvel hype).

Don't bother arguing. People who say bs like this are the same that believed MoS would make $1B just because Superman is the most "recognizable" hero ever.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Because Superman and Batman are the two most popular comic book characters there are outside of spider man. People have been waiting and wanting a WF movie way before Marvel even thought of Avengers

Iron Man is just as popular now (in the movies anyway). Hulk is very popular too. Even so, I don't even think Avengers 2 would get Avatar money. So using the Superman/Batman popularity argument is not enough.

 

[Sup3rman81]

Don't bother arguing. People who say bs like this are the same that believed MoS would make $1B just because Superman is the most "recognizable" hero ever.

MOS was never going to make 1B, but I assure MOS2 should no doubt. But one persons opinion doesn't equal everyone's nor does it make it an argument

 

[Sup3rman81]

Iron Man is just as popular now (in the movies anyway). Hulk is very popular too. Even so, I don't even think Avengers 2 would get Avatar money. So using the Superman/Batman popularity argument is not enough.

Iron Man is popular because of RDJ. Take him away and lets see how popular the character is. Also Hulk is popular with fans, not the GA. That's why both movies didn't perform well. There are way more Superman and Batman fans anyways and the GA would love to see that movie happen. You would have fans of both sides plus individual fans of each character plus the GA all paying to see it. It could give Avatar a run for its money

 

[marcvader]

I think a WF movie could beat Avatars numbers. The JLA movie would be awesome but lets not kid ourselves as to who fans would be going to see. Batman/Superman are the IT factor. I would love to see Flash and WW but WF would top a JLA movie.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Iron Man is popular because of RDJ. Take him away and lets see how popular the character is. Also Hulk is popular with fans, not the GA. That's why both movies didn't perform well. There are way more Superman and Batman fans anyways and the GA would love to see that movie happen. You would have fans of both sides plus individual fans of each character plus the GA all paying to see it. It could give Avatar a run for its money

LOOOOL Hulk is popular with the GA after the Avengers. I can't take this argument seriously after you said that. RDJ is not going away any time soon.

 

[Sup3rman81]

LOOOOL Hulk is popular with the GA after the Avengers. I can't take this argument seriously after you said that.

Really?? Why would he be even more popular with the GA after Avengers then he was after two solo movies??? The fans loved seeing Hulk back. I don't see Marvel rushing to get another Hulk movie out to audiences any time soon.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Really?? Why would he be even more popular with the GA after Avengers then he was after two solo movies??? The fans loved seeing Hulk back. I don't see Marvel rushing to get another Hulk movie out to audiences any time soon.

Have you been living in a cave? After the Avengers movie, people were raving on about (and these are non-comic book fans) how Hulk stole the show. Perhaps the Hulk movies didn't perform well due to the movies not being that well received. Superman Returns didn't exactly set the BO on fire.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

To get real for a moment. The potential for a World's Finest would probably be stronger then any other comic book property, and that includes the Avengers and JL. Now again, like any situation, the components and timing must be right. The Avengers does not make the kinda of money it does if it comes out right after the first Iron Man.

But if you gave be Bale and Cavill and $250m. Yeah, I think it would be gigantic.

Man of Steel had 50/50 reviews, came off Superman Returns and the director is far from loved. It is going to do around $700m. That is crazy impressive.

 

[Kryptonian Titan]

My reaction, exactly.

 

[Sup3rman81]

Since people wanna bash my WF prediction, lets look at this. TDK made 1B with no 3D and cheaper tickets. TDKR also made over 1B with no 3D. MoS will come up 300m short of reaching 1B when it's run ends. No Marvel until Avengers even sniffed 1B!! It took 6 Marvel characters to do it then that weak ass IM3 rode its coat tails to 1B. So sorry but the BO proves who is more popular and Batman didnt even need 3D to do it

 

[Liam_H]

Hmm, so that Monday drop was closer to 60% than I had thought, bit too optimistic. Still not a bad number, just expected.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Have you been living in a cave? After the Avengers movie, people were raving on about (and these are non-comic book fans) how Hulk stole the show. Perhaps the Hulk movies didn't perform well due to the movies not being that well received. Superman Returns didn't exactly set the BO on fire.

The Hulk works best in the group dynamic. Easy to steal the show when you the big lovable guy who doesn't need to carry the plot or emotional baggage of the film. All he had to do was smash. I honestly can't see a solo adventure ever doing that great for him. That is why they are avoiding it for now. Smart business imo.

 

[Sup3rman81]

To get real for a moment. The potential for a World's Finest would probably be stronger then any other comic book property, and that includes the Avengers and JL. Now again, like any situation, the components and timing must be right. The Avengers does not make the kinda of money it does if it comes out right after the first Iron Man.

But if you gave be Bale and Cavill and $250m. Yeah, I think it would be gigantic.

Man of Steel had 50/50 reviews, came off Superman Returns and the director is far from loved. It is going to do around $700m. That is crazy impressive.

Thank you!!! At least someone in here can talk some rational sense. You mention a DC movie beating Avatar before a precious Marvel movie and everyone flips out

 

[Sup3rman81]

Have you been living in a cave? After the Avengers movie, people were raving on about (and these are non-comic book fans) how Hulk stole the show. Perhaps the Hulk movies didn't perform well due to the movies not being that well received. Superman Returns didn't exactly set the BO on fire.

SR made more than a lot of your precious Marvel movies sweetheart and that's including Hulk

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Since people wanna bash my WF prediction, lets look at this. TDK made 1B with no 3D and cheaper tickets. TDKR also made over 1B with no 3D. MoS will come up 300m short of reaching 1B when it's run ends. No Marvel until Avengers even sniffed 1B!! It took 6 Marvel characters to do it then that weak ass IM3 rode its coat tails to 1B. So sorry but the BO proves who is more popular and Batman didnt even need 3D to do it

TDK didn't make $1 billion because of Batman, it made it because it was a great movie. IM and BB both were off $1 billion (both didn't have 3D). If IM2 was as great as TDK it could have made a lot more, we will never know. It doesn't matter, because even with the 3D boost, TDKR would have made $1.2-$1.3 B. So it proves nothing.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Thank you!!! At least someone in here can talk some rational sense. You mention a DC movie beating Avatar before a precious Marvel movie and everyone flips out

I said nothing of Avatar. Right now the only way a comic book movie is doing Avatar numbers is if Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Wolverine, Thor and the Hulk somehow got in the same film together.

 

[InJustice]

Because Superman and Batman are the two most popular comic book characters there are outside of spider man. People have been waiting and wanting a WF movie way before Marvel even thought of Avengers

Just because they're popular doesn't mean that it's going to be $2.8bil kind of popular. If anything WF, if done correctly, would be billion dollar property at best.

Iron Man is popular because of RDJ. Take him away and lets see how popular the character is. Also Hulk is popular with fans, not the GA. That's why both movies didn't perform well. There are way more Superman and Batman fans anyways and the GA would love to see that movie happen. You would have fans of both sides plus individual fans of each character plus the GA all paying to see it. It could give Avatar a run for its money

Take RDJ away, and Iron Man is still a genius, billionaire, playboy, and philanthropist. As long as the character itself is hilarious, witty, and has sharp dialogue, people will love Iron Man regardless, even if RDJ is recasted for future IM films. Moreover, Back that statement up with actual numbers please. And your argument is just full of fail: Look at the Avengers, it lined up fanbases from 3 standalone movies and still made $1.5bil, by that logic of comparison, a World's Finest movie should hit around 800-1bil (Avengers being the ceiling assuming everything goes right), not $2.8bil.

Moreover, dude have you even seen the reaction after The Avengers was released? People wanted to see a Hulk standalone with Ruffalo, so much so that Marvel (Feige IIRC?) said they have no plans for a Hulk film DESPITE the GA loving the character so much. I don't blame them for not doing it since Hulk is a difficult story to tackle and there wasn't much demand during Norton's time.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Take RDJ away, and Iron Man is still a genius, billionaire, playboy, and philanthropist. As long as the character itself is hilarious, witty, and has sharp dialogue, people will love Iron Man regardless, even if RDJ is recasted for future IM films.

I'm not sure that's true. I think the success of the IM movies is largely because of RDJ, and someone else in the role would not fare as well.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

The Hulk works best in the group dynamic. Easy to steal the show when you the big lovable guy who doesn't need to carry the plot or emotional baggage of the film. All he had to do was smash. I honestly can't see a solo adventure ever doing that great for him. That is why they are avoiding it for now. Smart business imo.

Do you think WF can get Avatar numbers?

Edit: Nvm read your other post.

I never said a WF wouldn't make a lot of money, I'm just saying $2.8 billion is a bizarre prediction, and I am not the only one who thinks so. Looking at my signature, do you really think I have a Marvel bias?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm not sure that's true. I think the success of the IM movies is largely because of RDJ, and someone else in the role would not fare as well.

The importance of this cannot be underestimated. Especially when RDJ plays more RDJ then he does Tony Stark. If we were stuck with the true ******* that is Tony Stark, not the lovable fool/genius that is RDJ, not sure how it would fair.

 

[Kryptonian Titan]

Since people wanna bash my WF prediction, lets look at this. TDK made 1B with no 3D and cheaper tickets. TDKR also made over 1B with no 3D. MoS will come up 300m short of reaching 1B when it's run ends. No Marvel until Avengers even sniffed 1B!! It took 6 Marvel characters to do it then that weak ass IM3 rode its coat tails to 1B. So sorry but the BO proves who is more popular and Batman didnt even need 3D to do it

Better check your math (it isn't hard). Avengers did over $1.5B and IM3, over $1.2B. That's considerably more than just '' riding its coat tails to 1B''.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Better check your math (it isn't hard). Avengers did over $1.5B and IM3, over $1.2B. That's considerably more than just '' riding its coat tails to 1B''.

Iron Man 3 got the Avengers bump. Is there any denying this? The question now is how much is that worth.

 

[Sup3rman81]

TDK didn't make $1 billion because of Batman, it made it because it was a great movie. IM and BB both were off $1 billion (both didn't have 3D). If IM2 was as great as TDK it could have made a lot more, we will never know. It doesn't matter, because even with the 3D boost, TDKR would have made $1.2-$1.3 B. So it proves nothing.

No if some psycho had not killed innocent movie goers TDKR would have made much more. 3D would have boosted it even more. Its apparent you are a Marvel apologist and you will defend them no matter. The fact is 3 DC movies with Superman and Batman have fared better than most Marvel movies. Marvel needed Avengers to be the hit it was or all would have been lost. People will keep lining up for Batman and Superman movies

 

[Liam_H]

Do not bring the Aurora incident into this, all speculation that can't be proved one way or the other.