Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - - - Part 12

[DarthSkywalker]

No if some psycho had not killed innocent movie goers TDKR would have made much more. 3D would have boosted it even more. Its apparent you are a Marvel apologist and you will defend them no matter. The fact is 3 DC movies with Superman and Batman have fared better than most Marvel movies. Marvel needed Avengers to be the hit it was or all would have been lost. People will keep lining up for Batman and Superman movies

Come on now. No need to attack other posters.

And whether you like it or not, they did make the Avengers and it made a crap load. Whether it was 1 superhero or 100. They figured out a way to get people to watch that film, and now the others are benefiting. That shouldn't be a stick to beat the films with, it was incredibly good business. Now I get to see Thor 2, Cap 2, GotG, Ant-Man and Doctor Strange.

 

[Sup3rman81]

Better check your math (it isn't hard). Avengers did over $1.5B and IM3, over $1.2B. That's considerably more than just '' riding its coat tails to 1B''.

It rode its coat tails trust me. IM2 wasnt anywhere close to those numbers but soon as Avengers comes out it makes 1.2B that and they finally had Mandarin which was a joke. And MOS2 will make 1B by itself of not more so WF would not make 1B at its best. That was so laughable what you said. WF would give Avatar a run.

 

[marcvader]

The people that paid to see TDK and MOS are for the most part the same people. There's overlap. You can't just say, "This movie made $1mil and this one made $1mil so that means if they get together it'll be $2mil!!" It doesn't work that way. So many things have to align to make Avatar money it's not funny.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

No if some psycho had not killed innocent movie goers TDKR would have made much more. 3D would have boosted it even more. Its apparent you are a Marvel apologist and you will defend them no matter. The fact is 3 DC movies with Superman and Batman have fared better than most Marvel movies. Marvel needed Avengers to be the hit it was or all would have been lost. People will keep lining up for Batman and Superman movies

All of the MS movies have been a commercial success (except TIH and even that didn't bomb). Most of the characters were B-list characters before their movies. Superman Returns did not make as much as IM, IM2 or Thor even though those movies featured characters not as well-known as Superman.
I don't defend Marvel no matter what. 4/6 of my fave CBMs are DC movies.

 

[king666]

$2.8 billion for World's Finest? lol

 

[Sup3rman81]

Do not bring the Aurora incident into this, all speculation that can't be proved one way or the other.

It had an affect. TDKR was tracking for a 190 to 200m weekend until that happened. People got scared and stayed home. Its been talked about in many forums and people agree that it had a huge impact on the BO

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Do you think WF can get Avatar numbers?

Edit: Nvm read your other post.

I never said a WF wouldn't make a lot of money, I'm just saying $2.8 billion is a bizarre prediction, and I am not the only one who thinks so. Looking at my signature, do you really think I have a Marvel bias?

Not disagreeing with you. But if I were asked to imagine something that could do Avatar numbers, a World's Finest film would probably be it.

Batman in a power suit about to face down Superman. A Batman who is more like the animated series version, destroying countless robots with his countless different types of Batarangs. The banter would be legendary.

And do it on the back of Bale and Cavill? Would it be likely? No, but I think it would definitely have the best shot.

 

[Sup3rman81]

All of the MS movies have been a commercial success (except TIH and even that didn't bomb). Most of the characters were B-list characters before their movies. Superman Returns did not make as much as IM, IM2 or Thor even though those movies featured characters not as well-known as Superman.
I don't defend Marvel no matter what. 4/6 of my fave CBMs are DC movies.

IM was fresh and new. RDJ made people want to go see the movie. Thor had a bigger OS BO. Thor 2 will ride off the success of Avengers as well and have a huge BO I am sure. I like Marvel movies as well but I have read forum after forum all calling for a WF movie. People even wanting that more than JLA. People laughed and said Avengers could never make what it did but it did. I have no doubt a WF movie could shock again and over take Avatar or come pretty close

 

[Liam_H]

It had an affect. TDKR was tracking for a 190 to 200m weekend until that happened. People got scared and stayed home. Its been talked about in many forums and people agree that it had a huge impact on the BO

Tracking is never wrong? Sure the OW was impacted but who is to say that the people that didn't go see it that weekend, didn't go in subsequent weeks? Again, you don't know so its pointless to bring it up when you can't say one way or the other.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

All of the MS movies have been a commercial success (except TIH and even that didn't bomb). Most of the characters were B-list characters before their movies. Superman Returns did not make as much as IM, IM2 or Thor even though those movies featured characters not as well-known as Superman.
I don't defend Marvel no matter what. 4/6 of my fave CBMs are DC movies.

Well to be fair, every Superman and Batman movie, no matter how horrible, has been a commercial success.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

IM was fresh and new. RDJ made people want to go see the movie. Thor had a bigger OS BO. Thor 2 will ride off the success of Avengers as well and have a huge BO I am sure. I like Marvel movies as well but I have read forum after forum all calling for a WF movie. People even wanting that more than JLA. People laughed and said Avengers could never make what it did but it did. I have no doubt a WF movie could shock again and over take Avatar or come pretty close

So? Nobody said it wouldn't make a lot of money, just not Avatar money.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Well to be fair, every Superman and Batman movie, no matter how horrible, has been a commercial success.

No they haven't. Not every, most.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Why is this argument even happening?

 

[Sup3rman81]

So? Nobody said it wouldn't make a lot of money, just not Avatar money.

You don't know that it wouldn't. People said nothing would beat Titanic. But Avatar did, so why couldn't WF? Records are made to be broken

 

[Ms. Marvel]

You don't know that it wouldn't. People said nothing would beat Titanic. But Avatar did, so why couldn't WF? Records are made to be broken

Titanic was beaten by a movie which had the same director. Not the best example.

 

[Sup3rman81]

Why is this argument even happening?

Because I commented to another users post and evidently it made some people upset. They wanted to chime in and argue. I guess saying a DC movie would beat Avatar is taboo

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No they haven't. Not every, most.

Ah, forgot how bad Superman IV did. Still, that is one film out of 13. SR and B&R even did the business in the end. Both profitable after home media and television rights.

 

[Sup3rman81]

Titanic was beaten by a movie which had the same director. Not the best example.

The director has nothing to do with it. Besides Titanic none of Cameron's movies were Billion dollar blockbusters

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Ah, forgot how bad Superman IV did. Still, that is one film out of 13. SR and B&R even did the business in the end. Both profitable after home media and television rights.

Yeah but they aren't called commercial successes. And I did say most.

 

[king666]

You don't know that it wouldn't. People said nothing would beat Titanic. But Avatar did, so why couldn't WF? Records are made to be broken

Seriously dude, $2,8 billion is a LOT of money.

 

[Sup3rman81]

Seriously dude, $2,8 billion is a LOT of money.

And?? Ticket prices are higher plus 3D is more wide spread. Avatar beat Titanic so its not like 2.8 cant be beat. Now days we expect hit movies to make more than 1B. I bet Avengers 2 will come close or might even beat Avatar. It should beat Titanic for sure. Then WF can best A2

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Because I commented to another users post and evidently it made some people upset. They wanted to chime in and argue. I guess saying a DC movie would beat Avatar is taboo

Not taboo. A bit ridiculous, but not taboo.

 

[Travesty]

And?? Ticket prices are higher plus 3D is more wide spread. Avatar beat Titanic so its not like 2.8 cant be beat. Now days we expect hit movies to make more than 1B. I bet Avengers 2 will come close or might even beat Avatar. It should beat Titanic for sure. Then WF can best A2

I doubt TA2 is going to beat Titanic.

 

[InJustice]

And?? Ticket prices are higher plus 3D is more wide spread. Avatar beat Titanic so its not like 2.8 cant be beat. Now days we expect hit movies to make more than 1B. I bet Avengers 2 will come close or might even beat Avatar. It should beat Titanic for sure. Then WF can best A2

You're overestimating the money pulled from 3D...It's nothing significant.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah but they aren't called commercial successes. And I did say most.

They made money. By the very definition they are commercial successes.

And?? Ticket prices are higher plus 3D is more wide spread. Avatar beat Titanic so its not like 2.8 cant be beat. Now days we expect hit movies to make more than 1B. I bet Avengers 2 will come close or might even beat Avatar. It should beat Titanic for sure. Then WF can best A2

3D is regressing at this point.