Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 4

[Heretic]

You are wrong.



What sample was sent into the phantom zone? I do not remember this, the codex was encoded into his body and he was launched into space. He came to earth looking for the codex and did not find out his body contained it until he arrived at earth. So even assuming that a sample of Supermans blood was in the phantom zone before Zod came to Earth, he wouldnt have known it was in his blood. And you are also assuming that a drop or blood sample would be enough to do what Zod wanted. This is never stated in the movie and is merely your assumption.



Yes, you seem to think Superman was able to manhandle and do whatever he wanted to do with Zod, with no resistance. He should have flown him to the South Pole, sat on his chest and told him he was in Time Out.

One of Zod's minions took a blood sample from Supes wile he was on their ship. Theoretically it could have survived, if the people survived that got sucked into the black hole/phantom zone at the end. The black hole that sucked absolutely everyone and everything into it...yet repelled Lois Lane...the one thing in the cosmos immune the pull of a black hole...so Superman could grab her and then struggle to get free from the pull of the black hole (that only affected Lois once Superman grabbed her).

Superman had enough control over Zod to snap his neck...yet you are claiming that he had such little control that he could not move his neck away from those people? I'm not even suggesting that Zod shouldn't have been killed...but in that particular moment, there were other options.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Exactly. It sets Superman apart. All the other heroes, including Batman, really have no issue with killing - Superman does.

To me, as said, Batman killed Raas. It's basically like knowing a bomb is set to go off in somebody's house, telling someone else to lock all the doors so they can't get out, then standing outside and saying "I'm not going to kill you, but I'm not going to save you either" when you've just perfectly orchestrated the death. Yes, part of it was Raas' fault - but, still he was happy to watch him die. Raas was a guy, in the film, that could have been securely locked away also.

I know what you're all saying but it takes an extra level to get to the point of killing someone directly with the intent to kill.

Everybody who died around batman did so mainly as a side circumstance of batman trying to stop them or just not saving them. If he had to none of them would have died after the fact.

I just don't think we would have ever had a scene of let's say batman snapping bane's neck. Again i'm not judging superman but i feel he went to a place batman didn't.

 

[Ultimatehero]

Superman had enough control over Zod to snap his neck...yet you are claiming that he had such little control that he could not move his neck away from those people? I'm not even suggesting that Zod shouldn't have been killed...but in that particular moment, there were other options.

Superman got him in the position but was clearly struggling. I think that's what so many of you are missing. He didn't just grab his neck and snap it. He held on since he couldn't do it. Zod if he didn't know it was hard for him to kill before, knew it when he couldn't follow through with it.

 

[Heretic]

If your goal was to kill as many people possible would you --

A) Go to the suburbs or a small town
B) Go to a secluded area
C) Go to a highly populated Metropolitan city

Where could you kill the most people?

His goal was to terraform earth, which unfortunately would result in the needed death of everyone. Now you are suggesting that mass murder was his intention all along? No...killing everyone on earth was collateral damage of terraforming the planet for Kryptonians.

 

[Ultimatehero]

I know what you're all saying but it takes an extra level to get to the point of killing someone directly with the intent to kill.

Everybody who died around batman did so mainly as a side circumstance of batman trying to stop them or just not saving them. If he had to none of them would have died after the fact.

I just don't think we would have ever had a scene of let's say batman snapping bane's neck. Again i'm not judging superman but i feel he went to a place batman didn't.

Because dramatically? It wouldn't have been a big thing to him. Batman might have a code, but Superman has the real code. Batman can kill somebody and while feeling bad about it, not really be that tormented by it. Superman is utterly devastated. It was shown because Superman is the one hero who is devastated for having to take a life.

 

[Mysteryman]

Opps , my previous info was actually from Gitesh Pandyas twitter feed , not box office.com.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This isn't the place for this argument!!! This is a box office thread!

 

[Ultimatehero]

His goal was to terraform earth, which unfortunately would result in the needed death of everyone. Now you are suggesting that mass murder was his intention all along? No...killing everyone on earth was collateral damage of terraforming the planet for Kryptonians.

Dude, you do realize that what you're talking about is Zod's first plan right? Then when he comes back to fight Superman for the final time he wants to kill every one of us? Note how many people, not just me, are saying this compared to you being the ONLY person saying that never happened. But, believe whatever you want to believe - that never happened and all of us are lying. Why? Clark destroyed the ship -- terraforming was no longer possible, Krypton was gone now Zod's purpose was gone and he wanted Clark to feel the same.

@ Heretic, as seeing you will probably reply - if you do have a reply to that, post it in the Superman Zod's death thread and I'll continue from there.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Uh.....yeah, I'd like to change my predictions to $133 million OW.

 

[manofsteel4life]

Because dramatically? It wouldn't have been a big thing to him. Batman might have a code, but Superman has the real code. Batman can kill somebody and while feeling bad about it, not really be that tormented by it. Superman is utterly devastated. It was shown because Superman is the one hero who is devastated for having to take a life.

This

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yea but with Manny Pac man's recent loses, those people need something new to believe in

I just saw this. So funny.

 

[Mysteryman]

this isn't the place for this argument!!! This is a box office thread![/\
THANK YOU!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

This isn't the place for this argument!!! This is a box office thread!

Seriously folks, take it to the other threads.

This is the place to celebrate the great box office performance of MoS.

Uh.....yeah, I'd like to change my predictions to $133 million OW.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Because dramatically? It wouldn't have been a big thing to him. Batman might have a code, but Superman has the real code. Batman can kill somebody and while feeling bad about it, not really be that tormented by it. Superman is utterly devastated. It was shown because Superman is the one hero who is devastated for having to take a life.

I disagree that superman has a truer "moral code" than batman with regards to taking a life. However as they are not real people this is an argument i will have to digress.

As for the Box office discussion we'll know everything we need to know about how well this film will do by next weekend's performance. That's the biggie imo.

 

[Heretic]

Dude, you do realize that what you're talking about is Zod's first plan right? Then when he comes back to fight Superman for the final time he wants to kill every one of us? Note how many people, not just me, are saying this compared to you being the ONLY person saying that never happened. But, believe whatever you want to believe - that never happened and all of us are lying. Why? Clark destroyed the ship -- terraforming was no longer possible, Krypton was gone now Zod's purpose was gone and he wanted Clark to feel the same.

You said...

If your goal was to kill as many people possible would you --

A) Go to the suburbs or a small town
B) Go to a secluded area
C) Go to a highly populated Metropolitan city

Where could you kill the most people?

Okay...so...he went to Metropolis WITH the terraformer...that why they fought there. He didn't go to Metropolis after it got destroyed...he set it up there FIRST. So, why did they fight in Metropolis? Because that was where they were when the terraformer got destroyed. The entire world would be destroyed for human life, so it was really just a random choice of locations.

 

[Sup3rman81]

I would just like to say that WOM has been huge for this movie and should carry on next week and into next weekend. Even with MU and WWZ I think MoS comes out 2nd and should have around 200+m by then. I say 325-350 domestic is very much in reach

 

[Ultimatehero]

As said, his second goal was to have Superman feel the pain that he made him feel and that included killing as many people as he can since he saw Superman as doing that to Kryptonians. Superman destroyed the ship - he destroyed Krypton in Zod's mind so his plan changes because he's failed his mission and now feels empty inside. So, why would he allow himself to be taken to a place where he could kill less people when his new self-assigned mission to have Superman feel the pain he's just gone through?

@ heretic, as I tried to state before, if you have a reply to this, post it in the Superman Zod thread that deals with this. I will not respond anymore in this thread because if I do it will just continue on and people want this to leave this thread.

 

[Man_of_Tomorrow]

and greatly regretting doing it when it happened

You're right, this Superman didnt think twice about it, look:

The face of a stone cold killer.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm loving those early numbers. Stunning numbers for a reboot.

 

[khreysi290]

This isn't the place for this argument!!! This is a box office thread!

Took the words out of my mouth.

Getting back on topic, unofficial OD figures from UK are out, and it's darn impressive! 2.9 million pounds, or US$ 4.5 million US$, exceeding expectations. For comparison, Iron Man 3 grossed US$ 3.6 million on opening day in the UK.

The UK really supporting Man of Steel! It greatly helps that Superman is British!

Global Opening Day Tallies:
U.S. and CANADA: US$ 21 million
UNITED KINGDOM: US$ 4.5 million
PHILIPPINES: US$ 1.7 million (biggest opening-day ever)
TAIWAN: US$ 794,742 (biggest opening for a WB film)
KOREA: US$ 1.22 million

 

[Showtime]

Hi. Talk about money.

Thank you.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Loving these numbers. Either way, we have a big success in MOS. Glad to have you back, Superman. We missed you.

 

[Liam_H]

For this movie to come in around $125-135 for the 3 day weekend is great. And that's without the Wal-Mart number.

 

[Mysteryman]

I'm loving those early numbers. Stunning numbers for a reboot.

Yes , and it means a sequel that wont have a lower budget .
That was one of my fears if it went the other way .

 

[Man_of_Tomorrow]

Sorry everybody.