Mass Effect 3 - Part 5

[Upset Spideyfan]

I'm not really down the with lore like you fellows so correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the actual starting point of the Mass Effect plotline the protheans? From what little info I got, they already sounded more interesting then Shepard and generally speaking, the human race. Doomed cultures are always interesting. Far more so than hero who saves the day (like all games ever).

What's your point?

 

[Speedball]

The Destiny Ascension had like 10,000 people on it.

It's been awhile since I played that part of the game. I forgot there were three choices, and one was defended the Destiny Ascension, Attack Sovereign, or let the council Die. I think I chose Attack Sovereign, I know I definitely did not choose "Let the Council Die".

 

[Reek]

the main plot of ME1 was saren as a rogue agent and the mystery of his ship. the protheans were a side story of how the technology was obtained...then in the last 1/3rd of the game it all comes together. essentially the story starts with humans still being young and introduced to the galaxy and finding its place. atleast thats what i thought.

 

[Speedball]

Spock is complaining about a popular franchise. Why am I not surprised?

I've learned to ignore him mostly.
I'm not going to put him on ignore though, because sometimes he has a valid point or actually isn't complaining about a game.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Attack Sovereign/Let the Council Die is more so for you to designate why you're making that that decision.

 

[Reek]

i definitely clicked let the council die. the ascension and attacking sovereign were more important than 3 goat f******

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I know you can pretty much even go so far as to say at the end that you let the Council die as a purely political maneuver.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

What's your point?

I disagree, for Mass Effect and the type of story they are are telling and the roles of humans within that setting, playing as a human is pretty crucial

In later ME games I would certainly like to play as an alien

Doing what you suggest would require them to completely overhaul the narrative of the entire series..

Not crucial, would probably better explain an existing narrative than dramatically change the whole thing and most probably not necessity to start up as a human if that isn't the actual starting point of the story would be my opinion on the matter with the information currently given (again though, my info on the story is loose at best). It's probably more to do with the same reason every Star Trek show has a human as the main captain I think. Actually thats a lie, Sisko is part prophet so technically he qualifies as an alien. He looks human though, if he looked like a weird squid man, that wouldn't market as well. Likewise with Mass Effect On the subject of races within human, it's probably the reason it's been a male rather than a female used for marketing as well. Startrek didn't get a lead female captian until 1995 with Voyager. Every other lead captian role being male.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Sisko is human, also DS9 doesn't start off with the occupation - point being that its called backstory for a reason.

 

[Speedball]

Attack Sovereign/Let the Council Die is more so for you to designate why you're making that that decision.

I still restored the council to a multi-species council, with Anderson as the Human chairman.
I think my justification was that Sovereign needed to be taken out as quickly as possible, or more than just the Destiny Ascension would be destroyed, but the entire Citadel. 10,000 < 13 million.

 

[El Bastardo]

I know you can pretty much even go so far as to say at the end that you let the Council die as a purely political maneuver.

Yeah, that's the super Renegade move.

On another note, in my re-playthough, just cleared Tali's recruitment mission. I hope Kal'Reegar's inclusion in ME3 is as awesome as Kirrahe's.

 

[Reek]

yea im on my me2 replaythrough too. im just going around to every planet looking for side missions before going to the IFF. its kind of weird, the first couple times i played through me2, i had enough money by the iff to buy all the upgrades (even though you dont need to rebuy the big weapons etc.) im nearly out of money with stuff to still buy at stores.

im curious as to what will come with you from me1/me2 other than the decisions.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Like in terms of gear?

Sounds like all of it so far.

 

[Reek]

well gear, upgrades to the ship (alliance took it so i dunno), My space hamster, Dr. Chakwas trying to cougar me, does EDI return too?

From what the characters said in ME2, youd think Grunt, Garrus, Miranda, and tali would already be chillin on your ship. your grunts battlemaster, garrus wouldnt wanna be anywhere else, miranda showed her loyalty over cerberus, tali vas normandy.

and kelly better be dancing for me whenever i want. and for god sakes show some boob in me3.

 

[Reek]

My space hamster, Lemmiwinks, is crucial.

 

[Nathan]

well gear, upgrades to the ship (alliance took it so i dunno), My space hamster, Dr. Chakwas trying to cougar me, does EDI return too?

You know, she actually does seem pretty hitable. Dr. Chakwas romance option in ME3?

 

[Reek]

***** tried getting me drunk of serrice ice brandy! sassy lass.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Sisko is human, also DS9 doesn't start off with the occupation - point being that its called backstory for a reason.

While the occupation is the setup. So is Wolf 359, it's the very first scene we see in the show and the setup of Sisko's story, which was a story told in detail in star trek the next generation. The reason the occupation is a back story rather than fully explored before hand (like Wolf 359) is probably because it isn't really Federation related up until the point. Once the Federation becomes involved, we care and it becomes a relivent story because even though the federation is a set of races, in the tv show, what this actually means is "the humans". It's funny considering the utopian view the show was suppose to have, generally being equal with races, when it comes to aliens, they are less important sub-roles. Also while Sisko can be classified as biologically human, he is concieved by a prophet which transcends biologically existing in a physical state, which he (at the end of the show) is apparently able to do as well.

I think it's basically to do with marketing to sell a show. Aside from Mass Effect, if you look at other games set in a sci-fi'ish setting with alein races and what not, most of the time it's the humans that are always punted first and foremost.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Also while Sisko can be classified as biologically human, he is concieved by a prophet which transcends biologically existing in a physical state, which he (at the end of the show) is apparently able to do as well.

He is human, a Prophet essentially mind controlling his mother is the extent of his familial relationship to them and there's no evidence that he is the one that's initiating the vision to Kassidy at the end of the series and I don't think its likely since the show never once hints at any such ability.

In any case Sisko is 100% human.

I think it's basically to do with marketing to sell a show. Aside from Mass Effect, if you look at other games set in a sci-fi'ish setting with alein races and what not, most of the time it's the humans that are always punted first and foremost.

If you look at any major sci fi series humans are the lead. It strangely has something to do with the audience being human I suspect.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

If you look at any major sci fi series humans are the lead. It strangely has something to do with the audience being human I suspect.

Which was my point.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Then we're in agreement.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

I still don't agree about Sisko, and never will.
Take that into account when you go to bed.

 

[Reek]

i like waffles.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Yea, we need more alien audience members.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I still don't agree about Sisko, and never will.
Take that into account when you go to bed.

I think I can live with that.