The Amazing Spider-Man Molina Says He's Interested Returning As Ock

^ Well this is the corner Sam back himself in and why I'm so disappointed in the way he approach these films. Because either he's controlled by the tentacles or he has some form of amnesia. Either way, it's not DocOck. A prime example that Sam really don't understand these characters.
 
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Or give him brain damage like in the comics.

Octavius was shown that he was irrational and violent when it came to his fusion project. In the demonstration scene, he refused to shut it down despite all the dangers it was causing. And when Spidey tried to inplug it, Otto viciously smashed him into the wall.
 
I think bringing Ock back for #4 with the Lizard would be HUGE. It would certainly hype up the movie for those who enjoyed SM2. It could also create a good story with Connors/Octavius being friends. I could care less about getting 2 new villains. I just want an epic Spider-Man movie that everyone can enjoy. I'm all for Doc Ock returning in the next movie.
If they do anything like this, they could have Molina in only flashbacks, to avoid the whole... he was dead thing.
 
You know, I never understood why they had Doctor Octopus drown. Lol, it's just so ironic...
 
If they do anything like this, they could have Molina in only flashbacks, to avoid the whole... he was dead thing.

It would also be interesting if Mysterio was in SM4 and was creating illusions of Doc Ock to mess with Spider-Man. It would go good along with New Yorkers saying they're seeing something in the sewers.
 
Now I understand why you like Terminator Salvation. :whatever:
I loved the movie. It doesn't mean anything.

It would also be interesting if Mysterio was in SM4 and was creating illusions of Doc Ock to mess with Spider-Man. It would go good along with New Yorkers saying they're seeing something in the sewers.
This I could entirely accept. He could even be a robot of Mysterio, who is looking to mess with Spidey. Bringing in the Goblin and Venom would be also good to see.
 
very interesting, i loved Ock in SM2 but i think its better for him to remain dead i want new villians, but in a future reboot, totally bring him back!
 
If the Chameleon was the main villain and used disguises and high tech weapons,then he could disguise himself as past villains like Doc Ock as a disguise and use the tentacles technology while fighting spidey in one battle.
 
Although you could explain Ock returning in that his tenticles dragged him to shore, he would still require motivation.

and it would take away from his great final line:

"I will not die a monster"

its a shame they didn't make him more egocentric, as in the comics, as this Ock should not return as a villain.

shame really, one of the best most recognizable rogues.
 
It would also be interesting if Mysterio was in SM4 and was creating illusions of Doc Ock to mess with Spider-Man.

He could even be a robot of Mysterio, who is looking to mess with Spidey. Bringing in the Goblin and Venom would be also good to see.

If the Chameleon was the main villain and used disguises and high tech weapons,then he could disguise himself as past villains like Doc Ock as a disguise and use the tentacles technology while fighting spidey in one battle.

IMO, these are bad ideas, simply because it takes away from the characters themselves. It's one thing to portray Norman, Otto, Harry, or Eddie in context to who they are, and the situation surrounding the need to portray those characters... but simply a bad idea to portray their villainous alter-ego just for the sake of eye candy, fighting Spidey. I would prefer to see the villain themselves.
 
IMO, these are bad ideas, simply because it takes away from the characters themselves. It's one thing to portray Norman, Otto, Harry, or Eddie in context to who they are, and the situation surrounding the need to portray those characters... but simply a bad idea to portray their villainous alter-ego just for the sake of eye candy, fighting Spidey. I would prefer to see the villain themselves.
But it's not simply for eye candy. It's to mess with his head, to suffocate him.
It was hard enough to take one villain, imagine all of those again. It's not with an intent to form a Sinister Six, but to mess with Spidey.
 
I know, I understand what you are saying. However, it's not the same. Every villain has their unique style, skill, skill level, and motivation... and to have another character try to portray that; 1st show lack of creativity on the part of the writers; but 2nd, takes away from the very villain himself. I just think it's a bad, cheap idea.

Let the villain stand on their own... besides, I think after the first encounter, Pete's intelligence should kick in and realize this is not DocOck, GG, or Venom.
 
If they ever use Mysterio it needs to be some kind of frame or setup. Pin Spiderman for murder or something like that. That way the entire city could turn on Spiderman and it could provide motivation to put together the Sinister 6, who would have a legitimate reason to come together with the backing of the public.
 
Why would the public back the Sinister 6?
 
because they would be named the 'heroic' 6

doesn't have the same ring though
 
They can become the Sinister 6 later on when they go bad. I just think the villains need to be motivated for reasons beyond "Let's team up to kill Spiderman". If Jameson could get them the backing for the right reasons, and if Spidey is thought to be guilty of a serious wrong doing, that could work. Maybe the city could provide each villain with an incentive... less jail time, funding for Octavius' research... whatever. And some people should still hate SPiderman for being a masked vigilante. Without that conflict he basically becomes another Superman and becomes boring.
 
I just think the villains need to be motivated for reasons beyond "Let's team up to kill Spiderman".

Yeah, they already did that in the worst possible way with Sandman and Venom in SM-3.
 
i totally thought that venomw as going to kidnap sandman's daughter and force him to help him.... *like in the game*

instead you have sandman just wanting to kill spider-man for NO reason... why? he had escaped.... he could have easily left town and rob other places... his problem was that spider-man was after him not that he wanted to kill him
 
I think bringing Ock back for #4 with the Lizard would be HUGE. It would certainly hype up the movie for those who enjoyed SM2. It could also create a good story with Connors/Octavius being friends. I could care less about getting 2 new villains. I just want an epic Spider-Man movie that everyone can enjoy. I'm all for Doc Ock returning in the next movie.

to make up for Spidey 3 i would want exactly this plus a Venom/Carnage cliffhanger and some clue as to a possible Sinister 6 development in future Spidey flicks
 
i figured if ock returned he would break some guys out of prison that spiderman was responsible for putting away but then i suppose that wouldn't make much sense for him to only spur five other guys. i'm sure they could figure it out though .
i am more interested in the other possible villians for part four but doc ock would definately draw alot of interest for people .
 

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