Transformers Negatron: Discussion Thread for those that hate the way this movie is heading

[Golgo-13]

Gotta add this here to:

WOW!WOW!WOW!

I just got back from my second viewing ..and it was an utterly different experience. I had said before that the movie sucked, well i recant my statement! The comedy was still a bit much, but i knew it was coming so i tolaterated it more..but man, what a first movie!

Things i noticed on the second time seeing it:

1) Scorponok survived! Can't belive i missed that on my first view.

2)The Sector Seven suit 'Tom Banachek' was indeed the hologram image used by the Decepticons. Why did they use him? Is there a deeper reason behind it than explored?

PS i didn't notice Barricade arm on the ship, when the other Decepticons were being disposed by the military, as others have said. I saw pieces of Blackout, and Megs but no Barricade. I believe he, Scorponok and Starscream are the 3 surviving Decepticon.

I changed my last score of 7/10 to a solid 9!

 

[zanos]

I agree with Golgo on this one...and I have to add one thing...am I the only one who was INTENSELY BOTHERED by the fact that Prime had his face mask on for maybe a total of 5 minutes in this movie????????

I mean, Bumblebee has no mouth when he should have one, and yet prime has a (freakin ugly-ass) face!?!?! WTF!?!?!

I really couldn't get past that in the movie.

Though 2 pluses...Rachel Taylor was REALLY HOT (and not a horrible actress as opposed to Fox) and while it was bad...at least it wasn't Superman Returns...THAT was ATROCIOUS...(of course Bay MIGHT just decide Prime needs a son in the sequel...then run for your lives )

Bay didn't like the original designs for prime including his face plate. Not a huge suprise so he changed it all.

 

[user123456789]

2)The Sector Seven suit 'Tom Banachek' was indeed the hologram image used by the Decepticons. Why did they use him? Is there a deeper reason behind it than explored?

wait, what hologram?

 

[Golgo-13]

wait, what hologram?

The hologram of a human pilot inside of Blackout, and the hologram of the cop inside of Barricade.

 

[user123456789]

The hologram of a human pilot inside of Blackout, and the hologram of the cop inside of Barricade.

ohhhhhhhhhh gotcha

 

[Mr. Socko]

I LOVE this bit from Cracked.com:

Verdict: If you're making a Transformers movie, and you can't even be bothered to make Optimus Prime look like Optimus Prime, you've missed the f**king point.

If We'd Made It: The robots would look like live-action versions of the cartoon. You could argue they might look silly, but if that's the case, here's an idea: Don't make the damn movie. You wouldn't make a live-action version of G.I. Joe and rewrite all the heroes as postal workers, right? Why make a Transformers movie without the Transformers?

Is it really any more different than....

 

[Spade]

Not really. Nolan made the suit with the intention of respecting what had come before him. Bay just had a conceptual artist draw him something that ever-so-vaguely looked like Prime, and stuck the classic head on him for recognition.

 

[ragdus]

It's a tad bit easier to translate an outfit from comic to real-life than it is a transforming semi.

I'm not a huge fan of the final rendered bots, but I do know that what I saw translates far better than trying to stick with the cartoon vision of the transformed bots would ever have.

Still, they could've done better.

 

[Darthphere]

Not really. Nolan made the suit with the intention of respecting what had come before him. Bay just had a conceptual artist draw him something that ever-so-vaguely looked like Prime, and stuck the classic head on him for recognition.

Wow, no.

 

[Spade]

It's a tad bit easier to translate an outfit from comic to real-life than it is a transforming semi.

I'm not a huge fan of the final rendered bots, but I do know that what I saw translates far better than trying to stick with the cartoon vision of the transformed bots would ever have.

Still, they could've done better.

I'm not irked by the attempt to modernize the design, but it's like nosebleed once said: they could have done better. All I want is a little recognition of who's who.

This pic shows a clean method of what it could have been like if they went with a new design but with the original look's touches for Starscream. Infinitely better than the insect-headed chicken look we got.

Wow, no.

Alrighty then, for once would you mind telling me why not?

 

[Darthphere]

Alrighty then, for once would you mind telling me why not?

There is nothing classic or akin to what came before in the Batman costume. Unless you mean the Burton Batman suit which again, looks nothing like anything in a comic I've read.

 

[Spade]

Ah. So the sprawling black bat emblem, the cowl, the cape, and the attempt at a pouched belt are all just figments of my imagination? Gotcha.

 

[Darthphere]

Ah. So the sprawling black bat emblem, the cowl, the cape, and the attempt at a pouched belt are all just figments of my imagination? Gotcha.

Dude, you want to be right so bad, you're willing to bend logic to do so. Find me a pic from a comic where he wears a suit even resembling the Begins costume and I'll drop this whole thing.

 

[ragdus]

I'm not irked by the attempt to modernize the design, but it's like nosebleed once said: they could have done better. All I want is a little recognition of who's who.

This pic shows a clean method of what it could have been like if they went with a new design but with the original look's touches for Starscream. Infinitely better than the insect-headed chicken look we got.

I'm not arguing your stance, or denying it could have been done better. In fact, you quoted me saying so. My point is in reference to the post showing cartoon Op and new Op. I love cartoon Optimus, but anything similar to that in this movie would have been laughable, which is what that movie critic had suggested should have been done. I think something far more along the line of what we got, but with more sheet metal on the exterior and more recognizable faces would have been the far wiser choice, which is pretty much what you posted there with SS.

 

[Spade]

Dude, you want to be right so bad, you're willing to bend logic to do so. Find me a pic from a comic where he wears a suit even resembling the Begins costume and I'll drop this whole thing.

I don't want to be right at all. It's an opinion. I've never met Nolan face-to-face and I'm not even a devout fan, but when I see the costume he made for Batman Begins I see traditional elements merged with the familiarities of Burton's films. When I see Prime's design I see that the attempt to modernize took precedent over the familiar. If you see differently, you see differently.

 

[zanos]

I'm not irked by the attempt to modernize the design, but it's like nosebleed once said: they could have done better. All I want is a little recognition of who's who.

This pic shows a clean method of what it could have been like if they went with a new design but with the original look's touches for Starscream. Infinitely better than the insect-headed chicken look we got.



Alrighty then, for once would you mind telling me why not?

But if Bay doesn't like the designs of the original Transformers he's not going to make any kind of attempt to resemble them in his film.

 

[user123456789]

I don't want to be right at all. It's an opinion. I've never met Nolan face-to-face and I'm not even a devout fan, but when I see the costume he made for Batman Begins I see traditional elements merged with the familiarities of Burton's films. When I see Prime's design I see that the attempt to modernize took precedent over the familiar. If you see differently, you see differently.

exactly, you don't know Nolan

you don't know what he had in mind when he designed the costume

you are not a devout Nolan fan

Nolan made the suit with the intention of respecting what had come before him.

do not speak for someone you have no clue about

 

[Spade]

I already said that I consider my statement an opinion. If I didn't I would be searching some Internet archive for statements to back me up. If you don't like it, don't have a coronary.

Kthanxbi.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I don't mean to start anything, but, if you don't like the movie than why do guys keep talKng about? Just curious.

 

[CFlash]

I don't mean to start anything, but, if you don't like the movie than why do guys keep talKng about? Just curious.

Don't worry. It'll drop off soon.

Which reminds me. Where's B_F?

 

[ragdus]

I don't mean to start anything, but, if you don't like the movie than why do guys keep talKng about? Just curious.

People like to discuss things they don't like just as much as they do those things they do like. Plus it's the Inter-Tubes and it's made for fighting and pr0n.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Okay, I get it now.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Don't worry. It'll drop off soon.

Which reminds me. Where's B_F?

Having a little Sam happy time to himself.

 

[Warhammer]

I LOVE this bit from Cracked.com:

Verdict: If you're making a Transformers movie, and you can't even be bothered to make Optimus Prime look like Optimus Prime, you've missed the f**king point.

If We'd Made It: The robots would look like live-action versions of the cartoon. You could argue they might look silly, but if that's the case, here's an idea: Don't make the damn movie. You wouldn't make a live-action version of G.I. Joe and rewrite all the heroes as postal workers, right? Why make a Transformers movie without the Transformers?

Boo. That is such a fanboy complaint.

 

[Darthphere]

Boo. That is such a fanboy complaint.

It also makes no sense. The analogy doesn't work. Changing the GI Joe's to postal workers is make a complete change. Last time I checked, Optimus Prime was still a badass truck that turned into a robot.