New Mutants New Mutants News and Discussion - Part 1

[DACrowe]

10 months is a long time to push a movie back, even if it's a question of quality requiring reshoots, even special effects, and this was a practically driven film effectswise, as I recall. This isn't a massively budgeted tentpole type thing like BATMAN VS SUPERMAN...just odd.

What was it going up against on the original release date?

You've got to wonder if this has to do with the Disney acquisition.

Or...OR...maybe they've been secretly filming X-Force and will be releasing that instead.

Maybe they are making it purely standalone... just in case it's a hit and Disney wants to grandfather it in like Deadpool. Unlikely though. Major reshoots are a definite.

As per what it was going up against, it certainly had fiercer competition in April with Rampage and something else big opening the following weekend, and Avengers a few weeks after that.

 

[TheVileOne]

Maybe they are making it purely standalone... just in case it's a hit and Disney wants to grandfather it in like Deadpool. Unlikely though. Major reshoots are a definite.

As per what it was going up against, it certainly had fiercer competition in April with Rampage and something else big opening the following weekend, and Avengers a few weeks after that.

There's always going to be something big opening up every week. That's pretty much the culture now.

And not to upset anyone, but to be honest, I was sort of confused when a New Mutants movie was announced in the first place. It didn't sound like a great idea. Even if Fox got X-Force done, I figured an X-Force movie would have to be far removed from whatever continuity is set up, just like Deadpool did with its first movie.

 

[terry78]

There isn't one week where something new isn't opening up domestically, so yeah it's pretty crowded. Dead months don't exist anymore, **** look at this weekend.

 

[TheVileOne]

Tom Cruise said something interesting once when he was on Chris Hardwicke's Nerdist podcast. Now say what you will about Tom Cruise, but I thought it was interesting when he pointed out the difficult thing about doing a big movie now, is that now you get only one weekend really to open up the film if that. So that one opening weekend is really all you have to like really own the box office.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Holy crap that’s a big pushback, my confidence in this one just took a big hit, shame, as it looked unique in the genre.

 

[henzINNIT]

Well...

The film as-is must be a dumpster fire. Sad news. I guess at least Fox are working to fix it. 10 months though? First Class was made in this time pretty much.

 

[SumT]

I feel very bad for Josh Boone right now. I can only imagine how idiots and annoying some executives and producers can be..... Boone deserved 100% freedom not this

 

[psylockolussus]

I can't help but wonder if this has anything to do with a possible introduction in the MCU. By the trailer, it seems to be a very isolated story. And in the beggining Cecelia asks "do you know what mutants are?" (which is at least weird if this movie is indeed in meant to be in the same timeline of the rest of the X-Men movies and mutants are known since the 70's).

Maybe they're making changes to a possible introduction?

I hope not.

 

[TheVileOne]

Disney reshot basically all of Han Solo, which they are doing reshoots on it now, and it's still going to get a May 27 release. I mean yeah it's Star Wars, and yeah it's Disney. But a 10-month delay sounds crazy.

If it was overlap, why didn't they figure out the overlap thing forever ago when they set up their 2018 slate?

 

[Lip]

^^^^ So this person (who was attacked for telling lies etc) was right after all.

LOL

How can they do that though? They can't really legally do anything with the MCU until the merger is complete.

Well, Marvel is now supervising FOX's Marvel movies, right? And Disney already announced the X-Men franchise is joining the MCU in a near future.

I'm not saying this movie will be in the MCU. But they could be making adjustments for a possible introduction. Making the movie more "isolated", more "neutral", so they can be introduced later. By the trailer the movie does feel isolated and mutants seems to be relatively unknown subject. That's different from the X-Men films where mutants are already known, etc. Do you understand what I mean? So this would be one franchise less to reboot a few years after.

 

[Pennywise]

Damn, was really looking forward to this!

 

[psylockolussus]

LOL



Well, Marvel is now supervising FOX's Marvel movies, right? And Disney already announced the X-Men franchise is joining the MCU in a near future.

I'm not saying this movie will be in the MCU. But they could be making adjustments for a possible introduction. Making the movie more "isolated", more "neutral", so they can't be introduced later. By the trailer the movie does feel isolated and mutants seems to be relatively unknown subject. That's different from the X-Men films where mutants are already known, etc. Do you understand what I mean? So this would be one franchise less to reboot a few years after.

They aren't supervising Fox yet as the deal isn't approved by the government yet. And no way, they would develop a Kitty film first before the uncanny X-Men.

 

[TheVileOne]

LOL



Well, Marvel is now supervising FOX's Marvel movies, right? And Disney already announced the X-Men franchise is joining the MCU in a near future.

No they aren't. FOX is still supervising all of FOX's Marvel movies as of now. These distribution moves were Fox decisions.

I'm not saying this movie will be in the MCU. But they could be making adjustments for a possible introduction. Making the movie more "isolated", more "neutral", so they can't be introduced later. By the trailer the movie does feel isolated and mutants seems to be relatively unknown subject. That's different from the X-Men films where mutants are already known, etc. Do you understand what I mean? So this would be one franchise less to reboot a few years after.

Honestly, the way you phrased it here I can almost kind of see it. Even though I don't think it will be the case.

I think it's more a matter of executives not liking what they've seen or worried about bad test audience reactions.

That being said, I don't want to rule anything out until we learn more.

 

[psylockolussus]

Disney reshot basically all of Han Solo, which they are doing reshoots on it now, and it's still going to get a May 27 release. I mean yeah it's Star Wars, and yeah it's Disney. But a 10-month delay sounds crazy.

If it was overlap, why didn't they figure out the overlap thing forever ago when they set up their 2018 slate?

Its just an excuse.

 

[Pennywise]

If Fox wants the movie to amp up the scare factor, it makes me wonder if this could be R-Rated now? Especially with the success of Get Out and IT.

 

[Havok83]

I just saw the news. WTH?

 

[kevork89]

Wow big push back. They should’ve tried pushing it to close to Halloween if they wanna give it more horror vibes. I assume this could be due to Josh scheduling also. If there are to be major reshoots plus Anya, Maisie, Charlie schedules it makes sense that most likely the set back is due to their availabilities. Maybe they can’t film the reshoots until later this year.

 

[LoganGambit87]

according to umberto the movie apparently wasn't scary enough

 

[SAUspartan]

Let’s hope they film PT 2 when they do these reshoots!

 

[Lip]

No they aren't. FOX is still supervising all of FOX's Marvel movies as of now. These distribution moves were Fox decisions.

Ok, I'm confused now. Didn't they say, right after the deal announcement, that Marvel would be supervising FOX's Marvel properties in the immediate future? Can somebody clearfy that to me?

What I understood is that, while the deal was still not completely done, Marvel would "help" produce FOX Marvel movies. I thought FOX would still have the power to greenlit whatever project they want, but Marvel would be acting creatively there too, something like that.

 

[kevork89]

Ok, I'm confused now. Didn't they say, right after the deal announcement, that Marvel would be supervising FOX's Marvel properties in the immediate future? Can somebody clearfy that to me?

What I understood is that, while the deal was still not completely done, Marvel would "help" produce FOX Marvel movies. I thought FOX would still have the power to greenlit whatever project they want, but Marvel would be acting creatively there too, something like that.

That’s what I was thinking too.

 

[MadVillainy]

Wait was it pushed back for quality concerns or just to reshuffle their schedule because of Gambit

 

[psylockolussus]

It would "over lap" with Deadpool 2 in international markets.

 

[Mad Ones]

This is really disappointing, not going to lie. I guess I'll have to push this film to the back of mind, even though I was really looking forward to it.

Gambit loses its director and New Mutants gets pushed back 10 months. Quite a day at Fox.

 

[Dasher10]

Surprised that this got delayed. I was looking forward to it.