Official 'The Hobbit' Thread - - Part 18

[C. Lee]

what did he do ?

Mentions several times his disdain for Tolkien fans and how he really doesn't give a damn about his books.

 

[Vartha]

picked mine up today

Here's what the three look like together

 

[Vartha]

Mentions several times his disdain for Tolkien fans and how he really doesn't give a damn about his books.

Why'd he the part then? SHEESH

 

[dark_b]

‘The Hobbit’ Trilogy: Peter Jackson Admits He Was “Winging It” the Entire Time

Yea, I was very surprised how badly BoFA sucked despite the brilliant LotR films. Now we know... It's really a shame, the last Hobbit chapter could have been so much better, the material deserves it.

holly s.. they admit this in a video realesed on a bluray? wooooooow.

how much did they go over budget?

 

[Octoberist]

I actually feel bad for Peter, and it's a blessing that the movies ended being 'meh' but still watchable instead of being Star Wars Prequel bad.

 

[Consona]

The whole shooting must have been so stressful under these conditions... I cannot imagine the amount of pressure being the director that must deliver so expensive film without a proper prep time. Sure the film would made a lot of money nonetheless the result, like it did, but I think Peter really loves Tolkien's world and tried his best...

 

[dark_b]

i would like to slap Jackson. he didnt want to do the movies....he made 3 mediocre movies and now we know why. also a bad decision to go from 2 to 3 movies. but we know why.

4 years lost. in that time he could direct the TinTin sequel.

 

[Marvolo]

‘The Hobbit’ Trilogy: Peter Jackson Admits He Was “Winging It” the Entire Time

Yea, I was very surprised how badly BoFA sucked despite the brilliant LotR films. Now we know... It's really a shame, the last Hobbit chapter could have been so much better, the material deserves it.

Ill post what he said here in case someome missed the link or are too lazy to click it.

Because Guillermo del Toro had to leave and I jumped in and took over, we didn’t wind the clock back a year and a half and give me a year and a half prep to design the movie I was going to make, which was different to what he was doing...It was impossible, and as a result of it being impossible I just started shooting the movie with most of it not prepped at all.

You’re going on to a set and you’re winging it, you’ve got these massively complicated scenes, no storyboards and you’re making it up there and then on the spot […] We would just tell the crew to take an extended lunch for an hour or so because I wanted to just get my head completely clear and plot it through. I spent so much of The Hobbit feeling like I was not on top of it […] even from a script point of view Philippa [Boyens], Fran [Walsh], and I hadn’t got the entire scripts written to our satisfaction so that was a very high pressure situation.

 

[Marvolo]

i would like to slap Jackson. he didnt want to do the movies....he made 3 mediocre movies and now we know why. also a bad decision to go from 2 to 3 movies. but we know why.

4 years lost. in that time he could direct the TinTin sequel.

Eh Ill take these 3 hobbit films over another tin tin.

 

[Boom]

Jackson isn't entirely blameless in this, but this makes WB look pretty bad. Just an awful situation all the way around.

Hopefully the book gets revisited some years down the road. It deserves better.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Personally I have liked the Hobbit movies we got, but I think with more time Jackson could have made better ones, if only WB had given him that time.

 

[Boom]

I'd just rather see a one or two-film adaptation that pulls exclusively from the book. No LotR/appendices subplots or any sort of original fan-fiction. There's just too much **** going on in the trilogy that I couldn't care less about for me to get invested.

So yeah. Give it 10, 20 years and go another round. Just my opinion, of course.

 

[Lord]

As long as they keep the Lord of the Rings trilogy untouched. The Hobbit trilogy is so connected to that trilogy, that i'm afraid a hobbit reboot might be used to plan a Lord of the rings reboot later down the road.

 

[mclay18]

Do the extended cuts come with the booklets that the LOTR EE trilogy did? Probably not, but I liked them.

 

[Boom]

As long as they keep the Lord of the Rings trilogy untouched. The Hobbit trilogy is so connected to that trilogy, that i'm afraid a hobbit reboot might be used to plan a Lord of the rings reboot later down the road.

That's the thing. They could easily make The Hobbit and leave it at that. It's very much a self-contained, stand-alone story.

While Jackson and Company did a good job making LotR work without The Hobbit preceding it, the demand for that film never let up. It was something they were going to have to get around to eventually. But WB and Jackson wanted something to match the scale and spectacle of the Rings trilogy instead of adapting the book for what it was. That's my grievance.

So yeah. I'd be fine with LotR never being remade on film (though I'd kill for a big-budget television series). But I'd like to see The Hobbit revisited.

 

[DigificWriter]

Most of what was presented in AUJ and TBOTFA, content-wise, would've been present even if GDT had remained on the project. All that was done when Peter took over was that things were re-jiggered and redesigned so that they more closely matched what had been done on LotR and so that the way the stories were told was consistent with Peter's style of storytelling. TDoS is where things were added in, and even then, most of what is in that movie, content-wise, had been intended to be in TBOTFA.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I feel like they should have stuck to 2 films.trying to stretch it to 3 was big mistake.

 

[Drz]

Lots of pacing issues too, leaving Smaug's death to the opening scenes of Hobbit 3 was also a very bad mistake, since people just shrug over Smaug and then focus on the next big bad.

Would have been more fitting to have Smaug die in the movie with the subtitle Desolation of Smaug. -______-

 

[titansupes]

Man... I mean, it doesn't excuse the fact that I think he's gone way, way downhill as a director since RotK (and including RotK) but you have to feel for Jackson in that video.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Damn, I had no idea this was already out on bluray.

 

[flickchick85]

I feel like they should have stuck to 2 films.trying to stretch it to 3 was big mistake.

They didn't even need 2. The Hobbit is no more substantial a book than any of the individual LotR books, so a proper Hobbit adaptation only needs one movie, imo.

 

[sabetoonth]

Lots of pacing issues too, leaving Smaug's death to the opening scenes of Hobbit 3 was also a very bad mistake, since people just shrug over Smaug and then focus on the next big bad.

Would have been more fitting to have Smaug die in the movie with the subtitle Desolation of Smaug. -______-

The Desolation of Smaug though I think in the books, doesnt that refer to all the desolated land around the mountain? I seem to recall that detail from the last time I read the book.

 

[Drizzle]

Now that all three extended versions have been released, I'm wondering how long before the fan edits start rolling in.

 

[Venomfan]

there are two things I'm going to hate when the inevitably remake LOTR. Recasting Gandalf and a score other than Howard Shores. I have never been more emotionally connected to a film than that series and those have to be my two non negotiables lol

 

[Marvolo]

No it definitely needs 2 films. Even GDT understood that. Hobbit's page count is deceptively small. Tolkien used a lot of paraphrasing and summarising to condense a large story into a small page count that children could easily digest. But any film adaption has to unravel and expand Tolkien's compact summarizing and paraphrasing in the Hobbit book. And the book has very little characterization besides Bilbo which is another thing an adaption has to expand.

To fit it all into one film it would take some large sacrifices in either characterization or scenes and set pieces from the book. And Im not convinced too little is any better than too much.

Two 120-150 minute films was always the best option.