Official 'The Hobbit' Thread - Part 8

[Figs]

Yeah, I thought it could have been longer actually. Like two movies longer. But it ended at the right point.

I already can't wait for a possible extended cut, especially since there were scenes in the trailer with Gandalf that I didn't notice in the film. I'm definitely going to see this in the theater again. I think I'll give 48fps a try just for the hell of it.

 

[danoyse]

I already can't wait for a possible extended cut, especially since there were scenes in the trailer with Gandalf that I didn't notice in the film. I'm definitely going to see this in the theater again. I think I'll give 48fps a try just for the hell of it.

I saw somewhere that there are 25 extra minutes planned for the extended cut.

 

[Figs]

I saw somewhere that there are 25 extra minutes planned for the extended cut.

That should roughly give it a similar run time to the theatrical versions of LotR. I can't wait!

Quick question for anyone to answer. The thing that attacked Radagast the Brown was one of the Kings/Ring Wraiths right?

Also, I noticed on a few websites that Cumberbatch played the Necromancer. I'm guessing some of the cut scenes might have shown him more because there was only that one quick shot and it looked entirely CGI.

 

[C. Lee]

I saw somewhere that there are 25 extra minutes planned for the extended cut.

Great. I loved what he did with the LOTR extended cuts....so this should be fantastic too.

 

[HowardStark]

Do any of you guys think non Tolkien fans seemed to like the Hobbit more then LOTR because Rings had too much war and took the adventure away that makes The Hobbit more of a true Fantasy then Rings.

 

[danoyse]

Great. I loved what he did with the LOTR extended cuts....so this should be fantastic too.

I just started re-watching them again. Watching The Two Towers while decorating my Christmas tree.

 

[Figs]

Do any of you guys think non Tolkien fans seemed to like the Hobbit more then LOTR because Rings had too much war and took the adventure away that makes The Hobbit more of a true Fantasy then Rings.

I guess it would depend on people's taste. I know some people that might like The Hobbit more because they complained that the LotR had too many scenes of them just running around the hillsides and all that. It almost felt like The Hobbit had more action in it, but I think that might have been due to it having a shorter run time so the action scenes seemed more frequent.

 

[terry78]

You gonna pull a Randall?

"Even the trees walked in that movie."

 

[Figs]

You gonna pull a Randall?

"Even the trees walked in that movie."

 

[C. Lee]

Do any of you guys think non Tolkien fans seemed to like the Hobbit more then LOTR because Rings had too much war and took the adventure away that makes The Hobbit more of a true Fantasy then Rings.

Yeah.....I think that they will pass the word around that this is less dark and war like...and more humorous and adventurous.

 

[terry78]

There was definitely a lot more humor, I suspect came from Del Toro's screenplay input. Aside from the humor already present in the novel.

 

[danoyse]

There was definitely a lot more humor, I suspect came from Del Toro's screenplay input. Aside from the humor already present in the novel.

"More like a letter opener, actually."

My mom thought the golf line was added too, she couldn't believe it when I told her it was in the book.

 

[HowardStark]

TTT was very war like and we may get some of that in the HObbit 3 since we have The Battle Of Five Armies.

Me personally I think I was a Movie Rings fan and so did not have the Book perfection craze. It was the same way I was a Potter movie fan. So maybe The Hobbit never bothered me having 3 movies because only read The Hobbit 3 times and was not die hard crazy over it.

 

[C. Lee]

My mom thought the golf line was added too, she couldn't believe it when I told her it was in the book.

I haven't read the book since 1975....so I had forgot that that line was from the book, but always remembered someone talking about someone knocking someone's head off and it going down a hole and thus he invented golf....so I loved hearing that in the movie too.

 

[danoyse]

I swear, my audience sounded downright giddy when Gandalf started his whole "Good morning" conversation with Bilbo.

 

[CGHulk]

Here's the golf quote from the book.

“If you have ever seen a dragon in a pinch, you will realize that this was only poetical exaggeration applied to any hobbit, even to Old Took's great-granduncle Bullroarer, who was so huge (for a hobbit) that he could ride a horse. He charged the ranks of the goblins of Mount Gram in the Battle of the Green Fields, and knocked their king Golfibul's head clean off with a wooden club. It sailed a hundred yards through the air and went down a rabbit-hole, and in this way the battle was won and the game of Golf was invented at the same moment.”

 

[HowardStark]

I haven't read the book since 1975....so I had forgot that that line was from the book, but always remembered someone talking about someone knocking someone's head off and it going down a hole and thus he invented golf....so I loved hearing that in the movie too.

The funny thing is we hear that Gandalf can tell stories but In The Hobbit he actually was telling some. Least wise as a way to get Bilbo to lighten up and be more approachable about leaving Bag End.

 

[CGHulk]

The best piece of music in the film!
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Another video blog, sort of.

SoundWorks Collection - The Sound of The Hobbit
http://vimeo.com/55341369

Direct link
http://av.vimeo.com/43252/757/13416...n=1355625148_4dd735bf38fddb031ef55a372fc252b4

 

[danoyse]

The funny thing is we hear that Gandalf can tell stories but In The Hobbit he actually was telling some. Least wise as a way to get Bilbo to lighten up and be more approachable about leaving Bag End.

I loved the scene between Galadriel and Gandalf, when he was explaining why he chose Bilbo. In Fellowship, his relationship with the hobbits was seen as a weakness to Sauroman. But he explained that while Sauroman thought only great power could defeat great evil, Gandalf believed small things like simple acts of kindness and love had just as much power. That scene was great.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

Here's something i've been thinking about in regards to the Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey.

With LOTR there are certain story strands that you can see throughout each film.

FOTR - Forming and breaking of the Fellowship
TT- Freedom of Rohan from Saruman
ROTK - Battle for Middle-Earth

Is it just me or is the Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey really hard to sum up storywise? To me it just seems like a 'they get about half way to the Lonely Mountain' which isn't much of a story. Don't get me wrong I really really enjoyed it (as i've previously stated), I'm just finding it hard to find one definitive story that starts and ends in this film.

I'm guessing it's hard because the Hobbit isn't three parts like LOTR but still.. any thoughts?

 

[C. Lee]

Here's something i've been thinking about in regards to the Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey.

With LOTR there are certain story strands that you can see throughout each film.

FOTR - Forming and breaking of the Fellowship
TT- Freedom of Rohan from Saruman
ROTK - Battle for Middle-Earth

Is it just me or is the Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey really hard to sum up storywise? To me it just seems like a 'they get about half way to the Lonely Mountain' which isn't much of a story. Don't get me wrong I really really enjoyed it (as i've previously stated), I'm just finding it hard to find one definitive story that starts and ends in this film.

I'm guessing it's hard because the Hobbit isn't three parts like LOTR but still.. any thoughts?

The accepting of Bilbo as really part of the group.

 

[cabel]

The accepting of Bilbo as really part of the group.

Pretty much.

 

[terry78]

The novel is basically Bilbo's coming of age story. He's an adult but he's very set in his ways and hasn't experienced much.

 

[mclay18]

My rating is 7.5, which I'll round up to 8 due to the poll. I think Jackson still has "it", but like with his previous two films, The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey is flabby in places. It's thankfully shorter than King Kong and his three previous LOTR films, but it sometimes lags in places (you could've cut two of the songs without impacting the narrative, for one) where the pacing should be tighter. And Howard Shore tends to reuse his older themes in some of the oddest scenes (reusing part of "Aragorn's Coronation" near the end of the film), but it's still beautiful.

It's a pleasure revisiting the world but it feels like the Extended Edition of the film. While that benefited The Two Towers for one, I feel there's a GREAT film in here. Jackson and his editor Jabbez Olssen needed to be more ruthless in the editing room. I recommend the film, with reservations.

FYI, I watched the normal 24 fps 3D version... and it looks stunning. Jackson doesn't go for obvious 3D gags, but it feels natural and not tacked on.

 

[HowardStark]

Truth be told wasn't the Hobbit 1 about the same length as FOTR.