Official The Ultimates Thread

[Darthphere]

Its called poor management.

 

[Horrorfan]

It's not millers fault, so much as the guy that's SUPPOSED to be writing the mini who has a problem with deadlines.


I wish marvel would stop hiring people who can't get their work in on time.

I mean what's the point of finishing the mini after this main arc is finished?

 

[Darthphere]

Whats the point of having deadlines if no one is going to meet them? That goes for Millar, Hitch, and Lindelof.

 

[Horrorfan]

Whats the point of having deadlines if no one is going to meet them? That goes for Millar, Hitch, and Lindelof.

I think Marvel should have some kind of back up plan...there's so much rampant unprofessionalism there at the moment. It's incredible. I never used to have to wait for comics a few yearsb ack, they were always in on time.

And someone like the lost guy who writes hulk vs wolvie...if you know you work on a tv show and will be too busy to focus on writing it, why accept the assignment?

 

[Tropico]

I think Marvel should have some kind of back up plan...there's so much rampant unprofessionalism there at the moment. It's incredible. I never used to have to wait for comics a few yearsb ack, they were always in on time.

And someone like the lost guy who writes hulk vs wolvie...if you know you work on a tv show and will be too busy to focus on writing it, why accept the assignment?

Marvel's backup plan was that they had 3 or more issues of Ultimates already done before launching. As you can see, the plan failed. What they used to do in the "old days" was a have another artist fill in so that the issue wouldn't come out late. Marvel's new stance on this? "The fans should stop whining about it because it'll be worth it when the issue comes out and we want to keep the art uniform throughout the comic."

 

[The Question]

Oh I do...but what Mark Miller sees as overbearing and agressive, I see as bad ass, tough and old school in the good way. He writes cap as a dick, some people say, but me and others see it as pure bad ass.

I think most people today lack spines, and thats why most of the world (specifically europe) has become a bit of a ****hole. I think we need more tough people who's spines don't keep loosening from the rest of their body.

So in an ironic way, what Miller sees as satire, I see as how things SHOULD be.

I mean arguably, the Ultimate versions of their characters are more bad ass and tougher than the 616 characters, so if he is making fun of the right by making the characters pure, 100% bad ass in the steve austin mould, I take it as a compliment.

The thing is, that way doesn't work. All it acomplishes is making everyone very very pissed off at each other. Yes, there are times when tough actions must be taken. I'm well aware of this. But there are also times when diplomacy is what is required. There needs to be a balance.

 

[celldog]

Celldog sorry to come out of left field on ya here since I havent been involved in this thread, but you keep calling Abdul Capt. Jihad, and as muslim that offends me. So please stop it. (that goes for everyone else too, not that you have to do what I say of course)

But consider this Jihad is a religious term that has been misused by a few fanatics and promptly assigned false negative connotation in the West. When Millar wrote his story and created Abdul it was all very political. Not religious. Calling Capt Jihad makes it religious and offensive whether you realize it or not.

Dont wanna make this into a political forum and I dont want to get into an argument with you. Millar didnt call him capt Jihad and that's not his name. So I am asking you nicely to stop.

Whether you do or not I wont press the issue


Oh and just so this post isnt totally off topic...Ultimate Cap kicks ass

For YOu I will stop.

 

[celldog]

Banner chose to take the serum, and should be held responsible for the deaths of those people hulk killed. If it's easier to take him out as banner, why the hell not?


And Hank deserved the beating cap gave him. People today may be too *****fied to do what needs to be done, but Cap ain't no modern *****, and thats what I love about him. He does what's right, not what's PC.

Wow....Dude you rock!!! t: t:

 

[celldog]

And the ldemocrats believe all criminals are just poor widdle victims of circumstance, and terrorists and suicide bombers are rightfully killing innocents because they have been somehow opressed by the evil us and britain, so both sides have flaws.

You rock twice!!

 

[celldog]

Oh I do...but what Mark Miller sees as overbearing and agressive, I see as bad ass, tough and old school in the good way. He writes cap as a dick, some people say, but me and others see it as pure bad ass.

I think most people today lack spines, and thats why most of the world (specifically europe) has become a bit of a ****hole. I think we need more tough people who's spines don't keep loosening from the rest of their body.

So in an ironic way, what Miller sees as satire, I see as how things SHOULD be.

I mean arguably, the Ultimate versions of their characters are more bad ass and tougher than the 616 characters, so if he is making fun of the right by making the characters pure, 100% bad ass in the steve austin mould, I take it as a compliment.

Dude!! Keep it up!! You rocked 3 times!!

Could not agree more!! Where have you been hiding???

 

[celldog]

The thing is, that way doesn't work. All it acomplishes is making everyone very very pissed off at each other. Yes, there are times when tough actions must be taken. I'm well aware of this. But there are also times when diplomacy is what is required. There needs to be a balance.

Cap is very diplomatic. He gives you a chance to surrender. Then if you don't, he whups yo' head!! t:

 

[The Question]

Cap is very diplomatic. He gives you a chance to surrender. Then if you don't, he whups yo' head!! t:

*sigh*

 

[bkhedr]

For YOu I will stop.

thanks man. I appreciate it

 

[Darthphere]

Celldog and Horrorfan* should look into gay marriage.




Insult directed at celldog, not Horrofan

 

[Colossal Spoons]

They're very obviously right wing so it'd be against everything they believe in

 

[celldog]

They're very obviously right wing so it'd be against everything they believe in

That is true.

I did that vote, too. wink wink

 

[Darthphere]

They're very obviously right wing so it'd be against everything they believe in

****, why do you have to and ruin a perfectly good joke Debbie Downer?

 

[Horrorfan]

The thing is, that way doesn't work. All it acomplishes is making everyone very very pissed off at each other. Yes, there are times when tough actions must be taken. I'm well aware of this. But there are also times when diplomacy is what is required. There needs to be a balance.

That I agree with. Although I am right wing, I will say I am NOT a fan at all of the current administration. I would rather have in a left wing guy with some ocmmon sense than an idiot who doesn't think things through. But sometimes, tough action is needed (we REALLY shouldnt have let North Korea get nukes for example).


also Darth, Im not against gay civil partnerships, so if I ever turn gay, I will look celldog up

 

[Horrorfan]

They're very obviously right wing so it'd be against everything they believe in

Er, actually, Im not against civil partnerships for gay people :P

And today, we learn we don't know as much as we think about what others believe

 

[celldog]

That I agree with. Although I am right wing, I will say I am NOT a fan at all of the current administration. I would rather have in a left wing guy with some ocmmon sense than an idiot who doesn't think things through. But sometimes, tough action is needed (we REALLY shouldnt have let North Korea get nukes for example).


also Darth, Im not against gay civil partnerships, so if I ever turn gay, I will look celldog up

Don't bother.....

I'd be dead.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

****, why do you have to and ruin a perfectly good joke Debbie Downer?

I couldn't let you crack a joke at celldog's expense

Er, actually, Im not against civil partnerships for gay people :P

And today, we learn we don't know as much as we think about what others believe

And tomorrow, we'll learn about these mystical things called "jokes". Yay

 

[Horrorfan]

I couldn't let you crack a joke at celldog's expense



And tomorrow, we'll learn about these mystical things called "jokes". Yay

Yes but your joke hinged on the basis we both were against gay people having the same rights as married couples, and since we aren't (well I'm not) the joke kinda fails.

 

[The Question]

That I agree with. Although I am right wing, I will say I am NOT a fan at all of the current administration. I would rather have in a left wing guy with some ocmmon sense than an idiot who doesn't think things through. But sometimes, tough action is needed (we REALLY shouldnt have let North Korea get nukes for example).

Oh, I agree. I just feel that if you can do things by talking instead of getting people killed, do it. I mean, I may be crazy, but I tend to find plans that don't involve mass deaths to be most apealing. And, that is what we've been doing, to a degree, with North Korea. We've been giving them massive aid, sending them food, medical supplies, and the such. It doesn't stop them from getting nukes, but it might make them less inclined to use them.

 

[Red]

Guys why did Thor's hair grow back, was it because he got Mjolnir and he belt back?

 

[Tropico]

Because of the probabilty bending? It's an alternate reality Thor? It's Thor before he was incarcerated? It's a clone?