Pacific Rim - Part 4

[Marvolo]

Had high $20Ms vibe for awhile personally.

I knew it would be low, because of the marketing that never really materialized for the general public. I was hoping for $40 million at least, but I'm not at all surprised by these projected numbers.

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

Good God, those numbers are awful. No matter how good it does in places like Asia, this movie is dead in the water, which I find to be such a disappointment.

WB are lucky to have had Man of Steel and later on, The Hobbit this year. Isn't this WB's fifth or sixth bomb this year?

 

[Visiting Arkham]

The only hope is for this to do amazing numbers overseas to show us dumb Americans how it's done. A boy can hope?

 

[John Locke]

Good God, those numbers are awful. No matter how good it does in places like Asia, this movie is dead in the water, which I find to be such a disappointment.

WB are lucky to have had Man of Steel and later on, The Hobbit this year. Isn't this WB's fifth or sixth bomb this year?

I think it will be. If they keep getting flops we're going to see "From the studio that brought you TDK Trilogy and Harry Potter" in the trailers of their future movies.

 

[terry78]

You think this would actually do better internationally? It's even more niche in other countries probably.

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

You think this would actually do better internationally? It's even more niche in other countries probably.

It will do well in Asia. But overall, Int.'l numbers won't be changing anything.

 

[terry78]

Everyplace probably has a subsection of the population into mecha, so who knows.

 

[Autonet]

Variety must have it in for PacRim. Spouting the same numbers and tracking from their old article. Not to mention that whole Twitter thing with Hitfix.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Variety must have it in for PacRim. Spouting the same numbers and tracking from their old article. Not to mention that whole Twitter thing with Hitfix.

Even if they did so what? They don't control the bad marketing, the public's lack of interest.

 

[georgec]

Ugh I hope this makes more than $30 million. The reviews are positive and the movie is living up to the hype. What's not to like?

Why do general audiences want see giant robots in a Michael Bay movie but not in a GDT movie?

 

[Man in the Suit]

Not to mention that whole Twitter thing with Hitfix.

What was that?

 

[Liam_H]

I can see this making around $40M this weekend. $30M seems way too low to me.

 

[BrollySupersj]

Ugh I hope this makes more than $30 million. The reviews are positive and the movie is living up to the hype. What's not to like?

Why do general audiences want see giant robots in a Michael Bay movie but not in a GDT movie?

Del Toro isn't murrican.

 

[Autonet]

Even if they did so what? They don't control the bad marketing, the public's lack of interest.

I'm saying what's the point in copy/pasting an article like that if there isn't some weird hidden agenda? There is no new info here. They've had 3 articles on it in less than 2 weeks.

What was that?

Some guy on Variety got into it with Drew from Hitfix about how GDT never makes movies about his home country Mexico and that director's get kidnapping threats all the time or some BS (except GDT's family actually WAS kidnapped and he left the country after that).

 

[Marvolo]

Ugh I hope this makes more than $30 million. The reviews are positive and the movie is living up to the hype. What's not to like?

Why do general audiences want see giant robots in a Michael Bay movie but not in a GDT movie?

Cause despite what we and the Internet think the general public enjoy Bay movies. They know who he is and what he offers. His name sells. The general public doesn't have a clue who Del Toro is. Those who have heard his name don't have any sense of what his name means in terms of film.

Del Toro needs a large blockbuster that sells to a general audience. Something more mainstream to get his name out there so he can make his passion projects without losing millions.

I still can't believe a studio gave him $200 million for this. He isn't bankable enough yet to pull in a BO big enough to make that back. I say this with love. I want him to smash at the BO, but he has to build to that. He has to sell himself as well as his film. Then he can set back and let his name do the talking. Look at Nolan for example. He had to build up to that. Now he gets blank checks for passion projects and those projects make money cause you could slap his name on about anything and you'd make money.

 

[terry78]

Del Toro doing straight horror will sell because we eat up anything like that.

 

[Marvolo]

Del Toro doing straight horror will sell because we eat up anything like that.

He hasn't done any horror in the states and the general public don't know about his spanish films. Don't Be Afraid of the Dark and Mama don't count and really aren't good enough for him to ride on.

Crimson Peak will make him in the horror genre if its good.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm saying what's the point in copy/pasting an article like that if there isn't some weird hidden agenda? There is no new info here. They've had 3 articles on it in less than 2 weeks.

The movie is coming out 10pm Thursday night, of course they are going to put up the latest tracking numbers. Does Edward Douglas have it in for Del Toro because he predicted 34mil, does Box Office.com because they only have it at 38mil?

Were you defending The Lone Ranger from all it's pre-release bad press or is this movie just a special snowflake? I love Del Toro and hope I love Rim and if I do I hope it opens with 75mil and kills the tracking numbers but why is the internet under the impression that Del Toro is James Cameron to the mainstream public?

 

[samsnee]

I think the problem is that this movie doesn't seem to have crossover appeal. The trailers definitely skew toward a young male crowd. It's pretty much an all male cast, and is monsters fighting robots. But beyond, that, trailers haven't shown any real focus on characters.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

Well hopefully it will benefit from good word of mouth if it does do badly in the first week.I'm hyped for this movie,and I would hate to see it fail.

 

[dude stannis]

I'm very cro magnon when it comes to this tracking business. For example I had no idea that studio have their own trackers, purposely low balling their films to make their opening weekends seem bigger until. But Deadline has a little table on the right hand side saying Pacific Rim is forecasting $43.9 million. Does that mean anything to anyone?

 

[Bruce Malone]

Should have released this in march or something. This pic is not up to par as a big summer blockbuster at least when it comes to audience excitement.

Man of Steel would have been a much better fit for WB's big July release.

 

[Autonet]

The movie is coming out 10pm Thursday night, of course they are going to put up the latest tracking numbers. Does Edward Douglas have it in for Del Toro because he predicted 34mil, does Box Office.com because they only have it at 38mil?

Were you defending The Lone Ranger from all it's pre-release bad press or is this movie just a special snowflake? I love Del Toro and hope I love Rim and if I do I hope it opens with 75mil and kills the tracking numbers but why is the internet under the impression that Del Toro is James Cameron to the mainstream public?

I'm not denouncing the tracking, I just don't understand why they have 3 articles on the same subject. There were no Variety articles on Lone Ranger box office predictions, only on the box office numbers after release. I don't even remember any Lone Ranger bad press before release beyond Depp being cast as Tonto which didn't bother me one way or another.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Just came out another tracking firm MTC has Pacific Rim opening at $26M. Do they have an agenda too?

At the end of last week, Finke the Hutt (in a post talking up how Legendary was headed to Universal) said it was tracking at "no better than mid 30s." Did she also have an agenda?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm very cro magnon when it comes to this tracking business. For example I had no idea that studio have their own trackers, purposely low balling their films to make their opening weekends seem bigger until. But Deadline has a little table on the right hand side saying Pacific Rim is forecasting $43.9 million. Does that mean anything to anyone?

It means Deadline is predicting what I am predicting, 44mil. Which is still not a good opening weekend but we can hope for more. I say wait for box office.com's updated predictions, they nailed The Lone Ranger's five day opening week.

Should have released this in march or something. This pic is not up to par as a big summer blockbuster at least when it comes to audience excitement.

Man of Steel would have been a much better fit for WB's big July release.

It has no stars and it's not based on anything so yeah an earlier release might have been a better idea.

I'm not denouncing the tracking, I just don't understand why they have 3 articles on the same subject. There were no Variety articles on Lone Ranger box office predictions, only on the box office numbers after release. I don't even remember any Lone Ranger bad press before release beyond Depp being cast as Tonto which didn't bother me one way or another.

I don't see how you missed all the press about people predicting Lone Ranger to bomb before the Summer even started, actually before they even made the film. The film was the joke of the Summer movie season.

I just don't know why you care so much about Variety's motives, they don't control what is a hit and what isn't. I guess you can shove it in their face on their boards if the movie opens with Inception numbers. I'm not a huge fan of Variety either BTW.