Pacific Rim - Part 6

[Tacit Ronin]

I knew China had good taste!!

Not really. Pacific Rim aside, they lap up even our worst blockbuster as if it's the best thing since Confucius.

 

[Tanin]

Not really. Pacific Rim aside, they lap up even our worst blockbuster as if it's the best thing since Confucius.

Is that due to population density or is China just a bunch of lemmings?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well the female lead is Japanese although I don't think she is that popular there.

There are a couple of issues that could pop up. Whether Japan would accept a movie with mechs/kaiju done by Hollywood. The other thing is WWZ is opening the day after, they love them zombies. In fact I fully believe WWZ is gonna out earn PR...maybe handily too.

Yep, they are all issues, but if Rinko is japanese surely they will know her somewhat, that my bode well for PR. WWZ opening the day after is a big factor. It an actual good movie as well.

 

[James]

Not really. Pacific Rim aside, they lap up even our worst blockbuster as if it's the best thing since Confucius.

As if the rest of the world is any different. Transformers 2 and 3 anyone? Crap movies make a ton of money all the time, regardless of country.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

As if the rest of the world is any different. Transformers 2 and 3 anyone? Crap movies make a ton of money all the time, regardless of country.

Exactly. Which is why it is hilarious when someone blames Americans for dumb summer films when they make 70% of their money overseas.

 

[James]

Exactly. Which is why it is hilarious when someone blames Americans for dumb summer films when they make 70% of their money overseas.

Yeah, it is silly to lay all the blame on North America. My own home country of New Zealand isn't large enough to effect the worldwide box office takings too much, but even there the #1 movie is often something terrible. I recall Meet The Spartans being in the top spot for a couple of weeks at least.

 

[Teelie]

I'd like to see a sequel. There's still potential for one but I wouldn't demand it either. The movie functions perfectly fine as a one-off movie with nothing more to contribute.

If a sequel were to go forward though, it would have to be justified with why they would build more Jaegers when they were shutting the program down or find an alternative to fight the Kaiju incursion another way that's as statisfying as giant robots.

We don't know that the threat is permanantly gone but it seems the nuke going off would be a big deterrent for future ones and probably did some damage to their location meaning a sequel doesn't need to be done either.

 

[Tanin]

Why they would build more Jaegers? My guess would be because the walls failed like mad and the Jaegers are what won the fight. Not to mention the population after seeing the walls failed started rioting for the Jeagers to come back.

If politics work anything like they do here that might be enough for the diplomatic governments to reinvest if just to get reelected.

 

[Teelie]

They put a massive amount of money, material and time into Jaegers which near the end they felt was wasted. The wall concept failed but that doesn't mean they'll go back to building Jaegers either. Maybe they'll find some other thing to blow money and material on.

Jaegers would be the smart thing to do but then we also saw them scrap that for the laughable plan of "we'll just put up giant freaking walls" that literally did nothing to slow down the Kaiju. So there's a possiblity they'll try some other alternative plan instead of the thing that worked.

 

[TheVileOne]

The thing is, the threat is over, so maybe they believe they are safe and scrap the program anyway.

But one would think the data they got on the new Kaijus and having pilots and a jaeger visit the Kaiju realm could help them improve the Jaeger designs and get more funding to improve those designs. Like an iPhone 4 going to an iPhone 5.

 

[redhawk23]

There's actually been talk of hybrids, either piloted or trained Kaiju machines.

 

[Marvin]

As if the rest of the world is any different. Transformers 2 and 3 anyone? Crap movies make a ton of money all the time, regardless of country.

Actually, you might be surprised how many of our "Bad" films bomb overseas. Then again, maybe you won't be.

 

[Still Wynning]

In a recent interview, Del Toro implied that some of the other Precursors could discover what was left of Gipsy Danger and combine their own resources with the Jaeger tech to create Kaiju/Jaeger hybrids. This would pose another threat to the Jaegers, since the Hybrids would have the added advantage of the advanced technological resources the Jaegers already possess, on top of the unpredictability, durability and the hive-mind mentality of a Kaiju.

I mean, the Kaiju were already bad enough by themselves (they barely delivered and detonated Gipsy Danger's nuclear reactor to the Anteverse with one of it's arms and legs ripped off). A Hybrid would rip them to pieces.

 

[redhawk23]

See I just don't see how Jaegers would represent and advance in tech for an alien species that has consumed worlds across dimensions and has mastered biotechnology.

 

[redhawk23]

The thing is, the threat is over, so maybe they believe they are safe and scrap the program anyway.

But one would think the data they got on the new Kaijus and having pilots and a jaeger visit the Kaiju realm could help them improve the Jaeger designs and get more funding to improve those designs. Like an iPhone 4 going to an iPhone 5.

Well now there's a situation where the world is no longer unified by an external threat, but there is still knowledge of how to build catastrophic weapons that can concentrate damage in a way nukes can't. Suddenly we have Gundam on our hands.

 

[Marvin]

See I just don't see how Jaegers would represent and advance in tech for an alien species that has consumed worlds across dimensions and has mastered biotechnology.

This properties story elements are driven by cool fun over practical and logic. I accepted that the minute I heard about the megazords.

 

[Teelie]

In a recent interview, Del Toro implied that some of the other Precursors could discover what was left of Gipsy Danger and combine their own resources with the Jaeger tech to create Kaiju/Jaeger hybrids. This would pose another threat to the Jaegers, since the Hybrids would have the added advantage of the advanced technological resources the Jaegers already possess, on top of the unpredictability, durability and the hive-mind mentality of a Kaiju.

I mean, the Kaiju were already bad enough by themselves (they barely delivered and detonated Gipsy Danger's nuclear reactor to the Anteverse with one of it's arms and legs ripped off). A Hybrid would rip them to pieces.

...wasn't it nuked and therefore destroyed when they collapsed the tunnel, leaving nothing to salvage? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

...wasn't it nuked and therefore destroyed when they collapsed the tunnel, leaving nothing to salvage? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

In the finale Gypsy survived a rather large nuclear bomb going off very close to it with no damage to it. Surely some of it survived the 2nd bomb as well. The aliens would salvage these parts and make something of it.

Plus, I think after the way things played out in the movie they will build more jaegers in case the breach were ever to open again.

 

[Teelie]

I don't remember it being that close to the first nuke. It wasn't in the literal blast range but the shockwave itself.

 

[BrollySupersj]

Del Toro visits Japan and the Gundam Exhibit in Tokyo. Lucky man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5va1sepKKo&feature=player_embedded#at=262

 

[redhawk23]

http://deltorofilms.com/wp/2013/08/01/featured/gdts-cabinet-of-curiosities-releases-on-1029 So this book, based on interviews with Del Toro with selections of his notebooks looks awesome.

The limited edition version is INSANE.

 

[redhawk23]

A very entertaining audio interview with GDT.

http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/tt/tt130802guillermo_del_toro_p

 

[dark_b]

happy fat Del Toro and cute Kikuchi and cute Ashida

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I don't remember it being that close to the first nuke. It wasn't in the literal blast range but the shockwave itself.

It was close to the first nuke as Gypsy was telling Striker to hang on as they will be there soon to help them against the category 5. Not to mention the bom b was huge, enough so to make all the water surrounding Gypsy to wash away and then back in, and they were at the bottom of the ocean.

 

[dark_b]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzkOkh1tOqE