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The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Paul Giamatti IS Rhino - Part 2

Well, I do agree that he would make a nice action figure...but that's about where it ends for me.
 
He looks best when his helmet is pushed down over his cockpit, right before he gets on all fours. It look realllllly good there, and his helmet should be down like that all the time. Otherwise when his helmet is up, it looks weird. That's my only complaint.
 
What in your fine fellows opinion should they have done with his motivation and backstory?
Personally, I'm fine with the amount of background they have given Rhino and his motivation; but, the way Webb & Co. went about portraying that in such an unserious, immature, cartoonish way, is very disheartening & disappointing. Neither did I like the way Max was written & portrayed period.

Alex should have been more serious, and more in charge of the situation & team stealing the isotopes....like the right-hand man guy from Die Hard III. He wasn't the boss, but he was in charge of his team and demanded respect. you felt this guy was about the business of what he was set out to do...no matter what(obstacles got in the way). A quiet demeanor, that meant business.

So what he did was okay in scene one, to establish him, he shouldn't have been so damn cartoonish like comic relief. I don't fear him as being formidable...but as a dumb lackey easily taken out. Should have been more serious, more mature.
 
T"Challa;28675017 said:
This. Rhino was simply cringeworthy, and why the hell would you get an excellent character actor like Giamatti just to have him do some hammy bulls*** like that?

Agreed, I just don't see how the character as is, got through to the final cut. Marc Webb, had to approve it?
 
I think Rhino would have recieved better success if Sony didn't promote him AT ALL and left the cameo as a surprise. I firmly believe that would have gotten everyone's attention and we wouldn't feel AS jipped.
 
I think Rhino would have recieved better success if Sony didn't promote him AT ALL and left the cameo as a surprise. I firmly believe that would have gotten everyone's attention and we wouldn't feel AS jipped.

This. It seemed as if he had a huge role. I can see how someone would feel like it was false advertisement. Have they ever done that before in a comicbook movie? I'm sure they have but I can't think of one.
 
I think Rhino would have recieved better success if Sony didn't promote him AT ALL and left the cameo as a surprise. I firmly believe that would have gotten everyone's attention and we wouldn't feel AS jipped.

Agreed. It also would have cut down on a lot of the "too many villains" talk. Two-villain movies aren't uncommon, but advertising this as a three-villain picture got a lot of people worried and gave everyone SM3 flashbacks.
 
My only problem with the Rhino was the trailers showed everything he did in the movie.

Him being hammy I was fine with. In his original appearances he was a ham, and trying to make him a mastermind is just not needed for me. I am fine with not all super villains being Machiavellian traditional badasses that you're supposed to relate with or understand. Sometimes, people can just be seemingly one dimensional and that's okay.
 
I think it would have been better to save the final scene (with Rhino) for the sequel. So they should have kept the truck chase at the beginning as to introduce him and show why he has distain for Spider-Man. And maybe give us a after credits scene (instead of the x-Men one :confused:) where he is approached about becoming the Rhino.

As much as i enjoyed the truck chases visuals, it had nothing to do with the rest of the film. I thought those vials that were in the truck would at least tie into the plot somehow, but it didn't.

So, as i said, the introduction of Aleksei via the truck chase was fine, they should have just save Rhino for the sequel. Maybe open up the sequel with that scene. That would be one less person we need introduction and backstory on in the sequel, which is already going to have a hard time pulling off that many villains who, the audience need some sort of background on, so it doesn't feel forced.
 
As much as i enjoyed the truck chases visuals, it had nothing to do with the rest of the film. I thought those vials that were in the truck would at least tie into the plot somehow, but it didn't.

I have to say, that was so bizarre. I was certain the vials would become important, because otherwise he would have just been stealing money from a bank, or something more traditional. But nope.
 
My only problem with the Rhino was the trailers showed everything he did in the movie.

Him being hammy I was fine with. In his original appearances he was a ham, and trying to make him a mastermind is just not needed for me. I am fine with not all super villains being Machiavellian traditional badasses that you're supposed to relate with or understand. Sometimes, people can just be seemingly one dimensional and that's okay.

agreed, I would have enjoyed it if Rhino's appearance was just a surprise for the movie and we didn't see any of the movie or the scene with Gentleman walking past Oscorp gear at all. I don't mind how Rhino was used, I enjoyed it for the movie, I just wanted to understand what he's saying more and tone his personality down. He reminded me of Spectacular Spider-Man and the sixties animated series Rhino. I did wish we did something instead of plutonium in his first scene(with little to no explanation), and becomes a simple bank robber in the second but I guess that was just to get Spidey's attention and bring him out.
 
I have to say, that was so bizarre. I was certain the vials would become important, because otherwise he would have just been stealing money from a bank, or something more traditional. But nope.
Representative of how haphazard the plot was as a whole. So many insignificant details were present.
 
People seem to be hating on the outspoken, arrogant "character" that Giamatti created, and sort of missing the point.

The Rhino was dangerous.

And he was about to kill a kid.
 
I twigged half way through that Rhino wasn't gonna actually feature much at all, Giamatti only had 2 lines I think and he went BIG with them. :funny: As the showdown with Spidey started it dawned on me that we'd most likely seen the final shot of the movie in the trailers from 6 months ago, and sure enough we had!

I didn't love or hate The Rhino, he was kind of just a jobber baddie much like he's been for a lot of his comic existence.
 
Paul Giamatti was the only thing I enjoyed about this 2 and a half hour movie. Him yelling "SPIDER! I KILL YOU! THIS IS NOT OVERRRRR!" or whatever in that freaking Boris voice was the most hilarious thing I've seen in a while. If they had just kept his scenes and cut out the other 139 minutes this would have been the most enjoyable ten minutes I've spent in a theater this year.
 
Paul Giamatti was the only thing I enjoyed about this 2 and a half hour movie. Him yelling "SPIDER! I KILL YOU! THIS IS NOT OVERRRRR!" or whatever in that freaking Boris voice was the most hilarious thing I've seen in a while. If they had just kept his scenes and cut out the other 139 minutes this would have been the most enjoyable ten minutes I've spent in a theater this year.

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I have to say, that was so bizarre. I was certain the vials would become important, because otherwise he would have just been stealing money from a bank, or something more traditional. But nope.
The stolen yellow vials are again seen in the Rhino mech suit at the end. I assume they help power the suit.

Peter's well and truly settled into his role following TASM, pedestrians know and love him "Spidermaaaan!", and he's feeling guilty about Captain Stacy - his vision during the chase, and leads to the Gwen break-up a few scenes later.

All that aside, I don't see anything wrong with an entertaining opening montage sequence of Spidey fighting crime.
 
I'm thinking the original plan was for Aleksei to steal the plutonium to power his homemade mech. I don't think the mech was supposed to be an Oscorp design (why would it look so amateurish and have Russian markings?), and the Rhino mech spot in the Sinister Six tease was originally something else [BLACKOUT]Venom symbiote[/BLACKOUT].
 
Yes the Rhino was very sloppily tied into the Oscorp story line. They should have kept it as it was and Harry could have recruited him in the next film.
 
Yes the Rhino was very sloppily tied into the Oscorp story line. They should have kept it as it was and Harry could have recruited him in the next film.

kind of agree on this. I only wished they did the armor a little differently, I kind of don't mind the armor because it looked half done in the Oscorp vault before Aleksei got a hold of it so maybe they can revise the armor look in the sequel or something similar to that.

but nice eye AnneFan, I didn't notice the plutonium in the armor.
 
I didn't love or hate The Rhino, he was kind of just a jobber baddie much like he's been for a lot of his comic existence.

That's how I see him too and as that he was perfect

Yes the Rhino was very sloppily tied into the Oscorp story line. They should have kept it as it was and Harry could have recruited him in the next film.

What would've been better is if the movie ended THEN in the post-credit scene The Gentlemen mention to Harry about a prime candidate in the Rhino.
 
My only problem with the Rhino was the trailers showed everything he did in the movie.

Him being hammy I was fine with. In his original appearances he was a ham, and trying to make him a mastermind is just not needed for me. I am fine with not all super villains being Machiavellian traditional badasses that you're supposed to relate with or understand. Sometimes, people can just be seemingly one dimensional and that's okay.

Agree totally. I think they wanted everyone to know Rhino was in the movie to increase interest, which is why he was in the poster and trailer. Personally I also wish Rhino was kept somewhat secret but I can understand them wanting the audience to get teased... but showing practically all his scenes in the trailers and commercials was just way too much.
 

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