RoboCop Reboot - Part 6

[DarthSkywalker]

Yep i get your point but i'm optimist about it.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

Just watched it today, it doesn't have the sheer brilliance of Elite Squad 1 or 2, but it's very good. The action scenes has a very cool feel to them, and you can really understand how a robot would be unmatched in the battlefield, it's bang bang bang, the third guy is dying before he realize the first one is already gone. The parallel between the drug lab storehouse scenes between the two films show this well. My biggest complain with the film is that the pieces and the end didn't fit very well. I liked the CEO guy as character, but suddenly he was a villain. It didn't feel right to me.

About the PG-13... the... assemble scene... that was stronger than anything in Robocop 1. If I watched that as a kid like I did the first one, that image would be in my heads for way long than the tank guy did.

So, not as divine as the Padilha's two previous films, but great film nonetheless.

I agree with you and i was kind let dow about the CEO being the villain at the end but that didn't stopped me of enjoying the movie.

 

[SofNascimento]

Just about the ending and a sequel:

Spoiler

Anyone else thought having the bill suspended would make for more interesting possibilities

Also, about the hand. I saw some people complaining, but wasn't it clear it was meant to allow him to shake other people hands? To remember them there is a human there.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^It was good though that when he went to shake the hands of people he didnt like he would always offer them the robotic hand rather than the human one.

 

[chintai80]

I agree with you and i was kind let dow about the CEO being the villain at the end but that didn't stopped me of enjoying the movie.

i feel that sellars was a villian throughout most of the film.
he was about profit or his ambition above all. he was willing to lie to the public and murphy's wife. and when he it was to his political advantage, he wanted murphy's plug pulled, essentially murdering him.

on the rooftop he pointed the gun at murphy's family out of arrogance, because he want to prove he holds power over everyone. he shot at murphy when he realized he underestimated him.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

i feel that sellars was a villian throughout most of the film.
he was about profit or his ambition above all. he was willing to lie to the public and murphy's wife. and when he it was to his political advantage, he wanted murphy's plug pulled, essentially murdering him.

on the rooftop he pointed the gun at murphy's family out of arrogance, because he want to prove he holds power over everyone. he shot at murphy when he realized he underestimated him.

Thats how I saw things, he was a villain throughout for me, not totally evil like I mistakenly described him earlier in the thread but he was doing bad things throughout the movie. His supposed turn at the end didnt feel like one to me because of that.

For me he pointed the gun at Murphy's family without the intention of shooting, but just to show he was in control of the situation.

 

[SofNascimento]

^It was good though that when he went to shake the hands of people he didnt like he would always offer them the robotic hand rather than the human one.

I remember he did that to the soldier guy out of spite, when he shook the hand of the CEO he used his human hand.

 

[SofNascimento]

on the rooftop he pointed the gun at murphy's family out of arrogance, because he want to prove he holds power over everyone. he shot at murphy when he realized he underestimated him.

That actually makes a lot of sense. It fits.

 

[chintai80]

Thats how I saw things, he was a villain throughout for me, not totally evil like I mistakenly described him earlier in the thread but he was doing bad things throughout the movie. His supposed turn at the end didnt feel like one to me because of that.

For me he pointed the gun at Murphy's family without the intention of shooting, but just to show he was in control of the situation.

yup, i didn't see it as a turn, he was finally showing his true colors there.
he was trying to show he was in control, him pointing the gun around was to say "Hey i can kill you and your family, and i can get away with it too."

 

[Poni_Boy]

Looking like 6th place this weekend. WW total should end up around $112 mil

"“Robocop” took in $2.3 million on Friday and is projected to wind up the frame in the $7 million to $8 million range — pushing the U.S. total to around $42 million. International grosses on reboot, co-financed with MGM, have already gone past $70 million."

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/lego-keeping-box-office-warm-with-30-million-weekend-1201115988/

 

[747]

The scene where Murphy gets to see what's actually left of him was so emotionally disturbing in a great way. Hard-hitting stuff. And guess what, it didn't need gore or an R-rating to reach that edge!

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I remember he did that to the soldier guy out of spite, when he shook the hand of the CEO he used his human hand.

Yep, of course at point he thought of the CEO as a good guy.

yup, i didn't see it as a turn, he was finally showing his true colors there.
he was trying to show he was in control, him pointing the gun around was to say "Hey i can kill you and your family, and i can get away with it too."

Exactly, he was showing he could do whatever he wanted and get away with it, he thought he had Alex at his mercy and wanted to show who was in control in that situation.

I didnt see any turn, I saw an arrogant man showing his true colours.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I saw it last night, and give it a solid 7 out of 10. Loved the opening with the original score, the action was good, and the story was pretty good. The original still stands above the remake for me, but it's a pretty good film in its own right. I actually felt pretty disturbed when they showed Murphy what was left.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

The scene where Murphy gets to see what's actually left of him was so emotionally disturbing in a great way. Hard-hitting stuff. And guess what, it didn't need gore or an R-rating to reach that edge!

Thats what i tought too

 

[Johnny Drama]

Just saw it for the 2nd time. Loved it even more than I did on opening night. So many changes I HATED before seeing the movie, the human hand, the inclusion of his wife and her taking over the narrative role of Lewis, while the role of Lewis was rewritten to be someone Murphy has known for years (and a dude), all that stuff.... I get it now, and I loved it all. Padilla had a vision that he knew would pan out, and didn't compromise that.

I can't wait for the sequels!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Looking like 6th place this weekend. WW total should end up around $112 mil

"“Robocop” took in $2.3 million on Friday and is projected to wind up the frame in the $7 million to $8 million range — pushing the U.S. total to around $42 million. International grosses on reboot, co-financed with MGM, have already gone past $70 million."

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/lego-keeping-box-office-warm-with-30-million-weekend-1201115988/

Those numbers are horrible. Early forecast were for around 10-11mil.

 

[dark_b]

the marketing budget was very cheap. hollywood makes remakes because its cheaper to promote the story to the public. right?

sarcasm off. when will hollywood learn?

 

[Octoberist]

How was the marketing cheap? They were promoting this movie like crazy and it still failed. I still think studios and even film bloggers take the public for granted when it comes to brand reconigtion: people assume that young people don't know who RoboCop is, or igonorant towards the backlash at the very idea of a remake/reboot.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I thought dark B was being sarcastic?

 

[Octoberist]

hmmmm

 

[Binker]

Like I stated before; Friday had passed, but I didn't see it, though the theatre was accessible because I had the night off. So, like I said, I'm not going to see it, maybe until the video release. I would be very surprised if next week, I find myself forcing myself to see it, which was one of the reason why I didn't want to see it because if I have to force myself to see a movie, then that means I don't want to.

P.S. before this decision, I had a Robocop 2014 wallpaper on my desktop. Now, and because I have no other ideas for it until later, it now says "Under Construction". Fits...

 

[Bruce Malone]

The scene where Murphy gets to see what's actually left of him was so emotionally disturbing in a great way. Hard-hitting stuff. And guess what, it didn't need gore or an R-rating to reach that edge!

Yes and no. That scene was powerful but I really feel the missing gore did hurt it.

There was a recent article about how pg-13 films have higher body counts than R rated films these days but you barely ever see the repercussions of that violence.

The violence in the original Robocop was supposed to be visceral and made you take notice of it because violence has impact. It wasn't supposed to look like a glamorized FPS video game.

When you compare how the two murphy's ended up as robocop. One was quick and clean with barely any evidence of destruction on the body until well after he was cleaned up (the car explosion), the other slow prolonged and off-putting ( the shooting). Violence is never clean and that is what was missing from this robocop.

And you know what there were little kids at the theater at my showing and I'm sure the studio's wanted that but I'm sure there were very few kids who saw the original robocop in theaters and I'm sure the studio's bacl then wanted that.

 

[Warhammer]

I still don't like watching Murphy's death scene in the original. It's so brutal, but perhaps that's a good thing within itself for various reasons.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I still don't like watching Murphy's death scene in the original. It's so brutal, but perhaps that's a good thing within itself for various reasons.

Yeah that was the point. The violence in Robocop was made as a point to show destructive violence actually is and how it's not really "fun".

Paul Verhoeven films have have had a lot of brutal violence but the brutality is deliberate on his part. The first Robocop I believe, when people questioned him why the violence was so brutal, he talked about how as a child in europe during WW2 he saw bodies with missing limbs and heads shot up and how there's nothing glamorous about real violence.

A lot of these pg-13 re-makes now do the exact opposite they sanitize killings. Which I think is even worst for kids seeing.

 

[Octoberist]

Like I stated before; Friday had passed, but I didn't see it, though the theatre was accessible because I had the night off. So, like I said, I'm not going to see it, maybe until the video release. I would be very surprised if next week, I find myself forcing myself to see it, which was one of the reason why I didn't want to see it because if I have to force myself to see a movie, then that means I don't want to.

P.S. before this decision, I had a Robocop 2014 wallpaper on my desktop. Now, and because I have no other ideas for it until later, it now says "Under Construction". Fits...

At least see The Lego Movie.