RoboCop Reboot - Part 6

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I think that this film - which was very good -was really just the diving board for what could be a really fantastic RoboCop film. I would love to see Kinnaman, Oldman, Cornish and Williams return and Jose Padilha to direct, but he didn't want to direct, it would be great if he could at least co-produce and develop the story. Speaking of story, I'd love it if Edward Neumeier and Michael Miner were brought on board to contribute. Plus, I think a bigger, nasty villain is needed.

Also, have RoboCop 2 be a summer release.

yes! if padilha won't direct the sequel, at least have him come in as producer and with some story ideas.

and yea, for a sequel you have to up the stakes, bring in a big bad villian. i had talked about bringing back clarence boddicker or some villian mech. and someone else on this board mention you can have boddicker end up being transformed into that mech, like robocop 2. the same train of thought had crossed my mind too.

it's like the idea of escalation, crime syndicates would try to acquire the same technology to fight off robocop or commit general weapons trades/industrial espionage. who says they won't try to hack into ocp's database and try to steal the designs for robocop, em-208, and ed-209?
 
robocop can not work as more than one movie IMO. the most important part is his origin how he becomes robocop. thats the most important story so you need the best villain for the origin.

i belive you can have a good sequel. but a good story about robocop? how? he didnt lost anything in the first movie. his body ? come on. so what could the sequel be about?
 
robocop can not work as more than one movie IMO. the most important part is his origin how he becomes robocop. thats the most important story so you need the best villain for the origin.

i belive you can have a good sequel. but a good story about robocop? how? he didnt lost anything in the first movie. his body ? come on. so what could the sequel be about?

Lost freedom, invasion of government into our private life, the evolution of man into hybrid machines, does he own his body or does the company own it.
 
these are good ideas for a movie. but i have a feeling that it would not be enough about robocop. but just a sequel where they force a story for him.

about the movie. they didnt make a big deal about the human hand. i dont remember any line from Samuel how he is a human with the human hand. the movie is out and it still doesnt make any sense.
i am trying to understand where the deleted scene ''dead or alive ... '' could fit in.
 
so what could the sequel be about?

robocop shooting more bad guys and fighting a super bad guy robot.
and dealing with the fallout from the first movie [blackout] with detroit's police chief being arrested, omnicorp's ceo dead, and ocp taking over operations[/blackout].
and murphy still trying to re-adjust to his new life as robocop. all potential fun stuff.
also, there's still the legal ramifications of his existence as well. is he still considered corporate property? is he seen as a full person? or a drone?
 
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Saw this movie Saturday night and loved it, give it a solid 8/10.
 
these are good ideas for a movie. but i have a feeling that it would not be enough about robocop. but just a sequel where they force a story for him.

about the movie. they didnt make a big deal about the human hand. i dont remember any line from Samuel how he is a human with the human hand. the movie is out and it still doesnt make any sense.
i am trying to understand where the deleted scene ''dead or alive ... '' could fit in.

There is still quite a bit of fallout he's a celebrity cop, a dangerous figure to corrupt government officials, OCP the parent company of OmniCorp has to deal with this mess.

About the hand the only person who makes mention of it is Sellers. When he summed up the public's need for a human hand behind the trigger.
 
About the hand the only person who makes mention of it is Sellers. When he summed up the public's need for a human hand behind the trigger.

Shouldn't they have kept both hands intact then since he has two guns :oldrazz:
 
Massive spoilers in link

http://www.fxguide.com/featured/robocop-redux-inside-the-films-biggest-scenes/

but shows you how they did the effects. Particularly



SPOILER! SPOILER!

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I hope that the director has a long career. He did a good job with the material and the only reason people hate this movie is because of the original.
 
Can anyone confirm without giving any spoilers if he goes back to the silver suit at the end?
 
I did enjoy the homage to the original suit before Sellars jokes the hell out of it.
 
Shouldn't they have kept both hands intact then since he has two guns :oldrazz:

Isn't one of the guns a taser?or is just another feature of the same gun.

Edit: good news an update from variety has it over a hundred million already with experts believing it will top off at 200 million.
 
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Isn't one of the guns a taser?or is just another feature of the same gun.

Edit: good news an update from variety has it over a hundred million already with experts believing it will top off at 200 million.

His right hand gun (which is his human hand) is a taser, but they said it could kill as well. The gun on his left side was some kind of machine gun.

By the way, this is probably a bit early but do we know if there are any deleted scenes that might be featured in a directors cut? I would love to see some more of Murphy before he becomes Robocop, cuz I thought that part went by pretty fast.
 
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I hope that the director has a long career. He did a good job with the material and the only reason people hate this movie is because of the original.

the movie is dull and lame on its own. but the existence of the original doesn't help that any because it goes to show how the same concept could be executed infinitely better.
 
Did anyone else find the fact that robocop was built in China as hilarious? I see the satire and that makes it even more funny.

Yeah I was waiting to see some part of his armor with "Made in China" branded on it. But it got it's point across very subtle-ly.
 
I think if you can turn him on and off, like a machine, he's a machine that 'wakes up' thinking he's Alex Murphy.

In reality, I don't think they would bother going through with the process. I do understand the concept, but I think it proves to be more trouble than it's worth, with the typical 'all robot' robots essentially doing the same job. Though it's good for a movie with all the drama and backstory, relating to the character, sympathy, etc.
 
Saw this today. Overall, I really enjoyed it. It's damn near impossible to refrain from making comparisons to the original, but I admire the way that this film didn't simply attempt to be a carbon copy of that film. It truly goes in its own direction and that might rub people wrong, but if you just wanted to watch the original again, then why don't you do just that? And while this one won't be remembered as a classic the way that film was, I still thought that the 2014 version of Robocop is a very solid film.

The strongest aspect of the film, IMO, is the performances. All of the actors did a great job with their roles, particularly Joel Kinnaman as Alex Murphy and Gary Oldman as Dennet Norton. By doing reverse-Robocop and having Murphy aware of his condition before gradually having all his emotions removed, I truly felt for the man. Some fans have complained that the "unmasked" version of Murphy in this film lacks the gripping and disturbing appearance of Peter Weller in the original when he removes his helmet. Certainly a fair criticism, BUT... when we get a glimpse of what is left of Murphy's real body... I'd say its even more disturbing. Of course, none of that would matter if Kinnaman didn't absolutely nail his role. But he certainly does. He doesn't come off much like Weller at all and that's fine... I'm glad he went his own way with the character. He's a bit more badass and confrontational than Weller was, and it works to the film's advantage.

Oldman also turns in a great performance as a man trying to do some good despite corporate a**holes pulling the strings. While the original Norton was just an arrogant weasel, Oldman's version is a guy you're constantly hoping will do the right thing.

Abbie Cornish also stands out as the widow just barely holding it together. I wish she had been in it a bit more but she made the most of her role.

The always excellent Michael Keaton's villain is really less of a villain and more of a corrupt opportunist. Although he's not as loathsome as Dick Jones or as vicious as Clarance Boddicker, by the end, you still want to see him go down. His henchman, Maddox, is a bit more of an obvious prick, and the ever-reliable Jackie Earle Haley makes this minor character someone you really grow to hate as the movie goes on. Samuel L. Jackson, Michael K. Williams, Jay Baruchel and Jennifer Ehle also do some solid work.

In terms of the story, I think it works pretty well. It hits many of the same beats as the original, yet it's not entirely predictable in it's structure. I do think it could have allowed for more action sequences, however. While I certainly applaud Jose Padiha for allowing the film to breathe with a number of great character-building scenes, I also feel that we could have gotten a little more Robocop-on-patrol action. Also, much like the original Robocop, we are again introduced to the nightmarish ED-209 robots... and then the film does very little with them. Aside from the intro scene in the Middle East and the climax, they're barely in the movie.

Speaking of action and special effects, sadly, most of the action sequences and visuals aren't anything special. They're not "bad" per se... but in a post-Matrix, post-Inception, post-Iron Man era, we want to be wowed by sci-fi action and unfortunately, Padilha seems a little out of his depth in that regard. I also think using the all black suit for the majority of the film was a mistake. It's not terrible but the silver suit looks SO much better. That's not just me being nostalgic over the original, either. The silver suit in this version was BETTER than the one in the original (IMO). It's a shame they didn't stick with it through the entire film.

So, overall, I would say this Robocop film is worth seeing. It's a good, but not great movie. Could it have been a great movie? Perhaps. It's a shame that the film isn't doing better at the box office because I think there is some great potential for a sequel.

7/10
 
Who else laughed at the Wizard of Oz references including that If i only had a heart song during that training sequence?
 
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