Star Trek Beyond - Part 3

[DarthSkywalker]

I saw it earlier today. I really liked it, but I was oddly in two minds about it. Once again loved the characters. Loved the idea of splitting them up and allowing them to each get their moment to shine. Jayla was great addition. Really thought all the reference to the last two films were well done. On the other hand, I was not a fan of the direction. The action was kind of awful, made worse by how dark the film is at times. Also there were a few scenes where the film kind of jumped, without explaining what was going on. Like when [BLACKOUT]Uhura was randomly in jail with everyone else. No establishment of everyone else being there.[/BLACKOUT].

The finale also felt way too much like the last two.

 

[kguillou]

I saw it earlier today. I really liked it, but I was oddly in two minds about it. Once again loved the characters. Loved the idea of splitting them up and allowing them to each get their moment to shine. Jayla was great addition. Really thought all the reference to the last two films were well done. On the other hand, I was not a fan of the direction. The action was kind of awful, made worse by how dark the film is at times. Also there were a few scenes where the film kind of jumped, without explaining what was going on. Like when [BLACKOUT]Uhura was randomly in jail with everyone else. No establishment of everyone else being there.[/BLACKOUT].

The finale also felt way too much like the last two.

THANK YOU. I'm glad I'm not crazy. While watching the movie I kept thinking "this film is not as colorful as the prior films and kind of dark looking" but I thought it was just maybe my imagination. Yes, I know its a different director and cinematographer but the visual continuity seemed off from this and Abrams' films and not in a good way.

I'm curious to watch this again on blu ray to see if it looks better there.

 

[Kelly]

You dumb, bro. Individual pods don't make a lick of sense.

Wow, nice...your first post here and you call someone dumb.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

THANK YOU. I'm glad I'm not crazy. While watching the movie I kept thinking "this film is not as colorful as the prior films and kind of dark looking" but I thought it was just maybe my imagination. Yes, I know its a different director and cinematographer but the visual continuity seemed off from this and Abrams' films and not in a good way.

I'm curious to watch this again on blu ray to see if it looks better there.

It was on the best screen at my local theater. All the trailers looked bright and great. So when the movie came on and I had trouble seeing the interior scenes in the Enterprise, I was a bit shocked. My brother agreed. So you aren't crazy on that front.

 

[flickchick85]

That's odd. The movie seemed very brightly-colored to me.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That's odd. The movie seemed very brightly-colored to me.

I agree.

 

[Kyle]

I'd say it was darker in comparison to the last two, but not really that dark at all - just when put in comparison. And that's more because JJ's film are more... glossy I guess the best word is. He makes all of his colors and lighting pop. Whereas this was much more standard. It felt closer in lighting to the older/original Star Trek films than JJ's.

 

[titansupes]

My viewing was bright and crisp.

 

[Dave McFly]

it was darkish for me too but I was watching it in 3D seeing it this weekend in 2D hopefully it is more light

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Screening was nice and bright for me too. Just some of the camera angles which obscured the view sometimes.

Though I liked the 3rd movie the least out of the new movies, I have to say this is one damn good trilogy overall.

 

[LoganGambit87]

movie was pretty good but this plot felt like a tv episode

 

[redhawk23]

movie was pretty good but this plot felt like a tv episode

I mean, not like the last one was literally just Space Seed or anything.

For real though you can imagine the 45 minute version of Kirk and Co getting stranded somehow and meeting a secretly lost, deranged early Starfleet captain, much as they bumped into Zephram Conchrane.

I think they should have made use of more of the extended screen time to develop Krall a little more but I like this kind of adventure story.

 

[MadVillainy]

some scenes were too dark like Kirk and Chekov visiting the wrecked Enterprise at night. Even for it being night it was filmed with too little light at times

 

[Filmfan93]

I also noticed that the film is darker than JJ's last two films. Especially the scenes on the planet (which took around half of the film).

 

[kguillou]

Also, that scene with Kirk and Mcoy having a drink at the beginning, the lighting just seemed really dark there, I really dont know why it bothered me so much lol

 

[Kathemy]

I had no problem with the lighting. Then again I watch all movies in 2D nowadays. I get a headache from 3D.

 

[MadVillainy]

I watched in 2D too and I still think that whole action set piece was overly dark

 

[Kathemy]

That's weird, it must be a cinema-specific thing, or maybe we just have different preferences. There were no scenes I thought were too dark.

 

[elgaz]

Saw the film last night. Parts of it were dark-ish for me too, to the extent I couldn't make out what was happening. Same cinema I always go to and never really had the issue before.

Overall, thought it was very good. Definitely has that vibe of a very long episode (albeit a very good one), but then I've always thought that about the ST movies which tend to be more planet-based - Insurrection, for example. Which is no surprise given that many of the ST episodes from TOS, TNG and even Voyager were planet-based.

All in all the action was very good, effects were great, and I felt this film really focused on the 'crew' as a cohesive unit more than the previous two. No complaints about Pine or Quinto or any of the cast, they all did a pretty good job. Liked that Karl Urban got a bit more screentime and focus, his version of McCoy is fast becoming my favourite ST character.

My only gripes asides from the dark parts of the film were Krall's motivations, which I felt were a bit shakey at best.

One question for anyone else who has seen it, sorry if it's already been addressed :

Spoiler

When young Spock opens old Spock's belongings, he sees a picture of the original crew (Shatner, Nimoy, etc). Obviously the picture is of them aged, but what were your perspectives on this - is the film telling us that Pine/Quinto/etc will age into those characters, despite the fact some of them don't look alike? Or in this alternative universe, do they all look similar but not the same?

It was the one bit of the film I wasn't sure about. It was touching and sentimental that a Vulcan would keep a picture like that, showing the close bond of the crew, but I felt it kinda interrupted the flow of this new Star Trek film with its new crew and took the audience out of it a little.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I mean, not like the last one was literally just Space Seed or anything.

For real though you can imagine the 45 minute version of Kirk and Co getting stranded somehow and meeting a secretly lost, deranged early Starfleet captain, much as they bumped into Zephram Conchrane.

I think they should have made use of more of the extended screen time to develop Krall a little more but I like this kind of adventure story.

I agree about Krall, I liked him but he needed a bit more to him. Would have liked to know how the machine extended [BLACKOUT]his life and made him look more alien[/BLACKOUT].

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That's odd. The movie seemed very brightly-colored to me.

It wasn't that the colors were muted. They weren't as deep, and there was more pastels. It was literally that some of the scenes were really dark. Anything set at night or on the Enterprise. Because of that and the rapid cutting, I had trouble seeing the first attack from Krall, or Jim and Bones having their drink, etc.

I guess it was intentional from Lin. Because it was like they film was lit that way on purpose. It was too consistent imo, and Yorktown didn't have this problem.

 

[Kathemy]

Well, it's obvious this is individual preference or specific cinema problems. At no time did I have any problem making out what was happening and I've gone to my share of movies I thought were too dark.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Definitely, the lighting in the movie wasn't an issue at all for me. Only some of the camera angles and quick cuts obscured me seeing certain parts.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I never had a problem with the lighting being too dark.

 

[Kathemy]

I actually liked that they didn't give Krall the "full villain speech."