The Rise of Skywalker Star Wars IX Box Office Thread

[Prettyricky]

How to kill a franchise 101 right here. Clearly solo n last jedi had an impact on this.

 

[Spider-Fan]

As did the quality of this movie

 

[spiderman2]

As did the quality of this movie

Opeing weekend is more about the last movie and if it creats or in this case destroyed hype for the next movie. Legs are more about quality of this movie and i am seeing a lot better reactions towards this movie then i am for TLJ.

 

[spiderman2]

This year is the most competitive in history. But that said, you'd always expect a Star Wars Episode film to be near the top. Only Endgame and Lion King should have beaten it.

Yeah before the year i think most people would have had this has like the 3erd biggest movie of the year behind those 2. Now it may not only end up behind those 2 but it may also end up behind spiderman far from home, frozen 2,captian marvel, Joker, Alidan. If it does that would mean 8th and like has been brought up before could be like a 50% decline from TFA and no matter if TFA was like a lighting in a bottle 50% is still a lot. If we were talking about like a 25% drop that would be a lot better.

 

[spiderman2]

So with its OW if it has the same type of legs that TLJ had it would make about 495.6 if it has TFA legs it would make about 672.6. No i am not saying its going to have TFA legs just bring it up for comparison sakes. If it has like in the middle of the 2 kind of legs we are looking at 584.1. What are the chances the movie makes less then 500 USA?

 

[Adder]

Opeing weekend is more about the last movie and if it creats or in this case destroyed hype for the next movie. Legs are more about quality of this movie and i am seeing a lot better reactions towards this movie then i am for TLJ.

This. Amazing that people are still trying to minimize the damage that TLJ did.

 

[Stark Bauer]

Opening Day:

The Rise of Skywalker (2019): "Updated PostTrak for Skywalker shows guys over 25 (43%) in attendance followed by men under 25 (24%), females 25+ (22%), and females under 25 (10%)." (audience 67% men, 32% women)

The Last Jedi (2019): "Opening day demographics show the film played to an audience that was 58% male vs. 43% female and of that audience 37% was 25 years old or under."

First 2 weeks:

* MPAA Reports: "Comscore/Screen Engine's 'PostTrak' collects domestic survey data for all films in release in at least 800 theaters, which links box office grosses to gender and ethnicity of attendees. The surveys are conducted during the first two weeks of a film's wide release."
percentage values in table may not sum to 100 percent due to rounding

Sources: Solo: A Star Wars Story, 2017, 2016, 2015

and yet KK continues to release feminist pandering content. It would be akin to casting Sex and The City with men instead of women. Of course it’s going to bomb. Don’t even get me started with the lazy writing

 

[Stark Bauer]

It's funny because $175M is still a lot of money and a number most studios would kill for as their OW for any of their blockbusters, but for a finale in something as hugely popular as Star Wars I definitely see it as underwhelming, especially when the third films in this franchise have increased in the past from their predecessors. I never imagined this going sub $200M and hearing about its OS in certain territories doesn't sound very promising either. It really makes me wonder if it could go below $1B WW which would be an utter disaster IMO.

TROS only made 9 million more than Batman V Superman. That movie struggled to make it to $330 million and likewise TROS will struggle to make $500 million domestic and $1 billion worldwide isnt happening

 

[Stark Bauer]

Opeing weekend is more about the last movie and if it creats or in this case destroyed hype for the next movie. Legs are more about quality of this movie and i am seeing a lot better reactions towards this movie then i am for TLJ.

TLJ had the cliffhanger Ending from TFA to draw audiences in - TROS has nothing - it is a train wreck - many don’t care for spoilers and Are intentionally reading spoilers - I Thought of punishing KK and co. By buying a ticket to another movie and going in to see SW but decided not to - instead I am going to see it tomorrow on discount Tuesday. I have watched all previous entries on opening day except the OT. Again it’s not going to make a billion. KK is the equivalent of Zack Snyder and Kinsberg to DC and X Men respectively.

Star Wars will rise again no pun intended. A KOTOR trilogy with Favreau Filoni with Lucas consulting as well as Keanu as Darth Revan will be legendary and could be the biggest thing to hit the box office since Endgame. It’s gonna take a lot of work but The Mandalorian is a great sign that there are still producers who get Star Wars and have Lucas’ blessing

 

[godisawesome]

Opening Day:

The Rise of Skywalker (2019): "Updated PostTrak for Skywalker shows guys over 25 (43%) in attendance followed by men under 25 (24%), females 25+ (22%), and females under 25 (10%)." (audience 67% men, 32% women)

The Last Jedi (2019): "Opening day demographics show the film played to an audience that was 58% male vs. 43% female and of that audience 37% was 25 years old or under."

First 2 weeks:

* MPAA Reports: "Comscore/Screen Engine's 'PostTrak' collects domestic survey data for all films in release in at least 800 theaters, which links box office grosses to gender and ethnicity of attendees. The surveys are conducted during the first two weeks of a film's wide release."
percentage values in table may not sum to 100 percent due to rounding

Sources: Solo: A Star Wars Story, 2017, 2016, 2015

If I’m allowed to be a bit bitter but still make an argument...

...I really want to think that the drop in opening day attendance from female attendees could end up some day being correlated to the decision from TLJ to pursue Reylo, with word of TROS honoring *that* part of TLJ’s plan, of all things, actually damaging it a little bit with the female demographic.

I’m a WASP male... but if I can be a little petty, I want LFL and Disney to be denied the profit they could have had because they decided a shallow abusive romance was the way to go for defining the core of their Trilogy, and the defining story element for the female hero and male villain, and incidentally caught the POCs in the crossfire as well.

Live by Reylo, lose money by Reylo.

 

[spiderman2]

This. Amazing that people are still trying to minimize the damage that TLJ did.

Yeah Its a big reason a movie like TDK made has much has it did back when it came out because batman begins was good so it made people want to see the next movie. Its a big reason a lot of sequles make more money then the movie before becuase the first movie or the movie before bulids peoples trust. Like Yeah TDK was a great movie but there is no way it makes like a billion after begins only made like 400 million if begins was not good. You dont see that big of a jump just because the movie is good. Its a combination of being good and the movie before being good.

 

[spiderman2]

TLJ had the cliffhanger Ending from TFA to draw audiences in - TROS has nothing - it is a train wreck - many don’t care for spoilers and Are intentionally reading spoilers - I Thought of punishing KK and co. By buying a ticket to another movie and going in to see SW but decided not to - instead I am going to see it tomorrow on discount Tuesday. I have watched all previous entries on opening day except the OT. Again it’s not going to make a billion. KK is the equivalent of Zack Snyder and Kinsberg to DC and X Men respectively.

Star Wars will rise again no pun intended. A KOTOR trilogy with Favreau Filoni with Lucas consulting as well as Keanu as Darth Revan will be legendary and could be the biggest thing to hit the box office since Endgame. It’s gonna take a lot of work but The Mandalorian is a great sign that there are still producers who get Star Wars and have Lucas’ blessing

TFA people love and it got people to trust star wars again after the really bad PT. On the other hand TLJ made people hate star wars again. I dont buy that most people dont mind spoliers i think if you read spoilers you are in the very small minority on that one. The movie will make a billion.

 

[spiderman2]

FWIW per deadline, Disney is saying 175.5 for the weekend. That tracks with BOT’s insider estimates, which saw a good Sunday hold and bumped the initial 173 estimate to 176. BOT’s early Monday read is 28-30. Percentage-wise, the Sunday and Monday drops are in line with what Desolation of Smaug had on the same calendar in 2013.

In any event, bottom line is RoS should comfortably pass 200 today.

Is that a good first monday?

 

[Lilbaz]

It's going to be a coin toss to hit a billion. Either way, to lose 50% of your box office in the space of 2 movies is something to be greatly concerned about. There's the very real chance Joker makes more than SW this year. Think about that. A film that cost maybe a tenth of what this one did.

Hopefully studios learn from this. Get good writers and a solid script first. Especially if it's a saga.
Can just imagine how awkward the disney xmas party will be with kathleen kennedy sitting next to iger and feige.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

calendar effect (weekends highlighted in bold):

TROS is running into the holiday period 5 days ahead of TLJ.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

This. Amazing that people are still trying to minimize the damage that TLJ did.

Agreed. TLJ did damage to not only people's excitement but it gave this movie a mountain to climb in terms of what it had to cover. I thought JJ would have been able to climb the mountain and make a satisfying finale but ultimately he wasn't able too.

Such a shame what this trilogy has become after TFA started things off so well.

 

[Kon]

If I’m allowed to be a bit bitter but still make an argument...

...I really want to think that the drop in opening day attendance from female attendees could end up some day being correlated to the decision from TLJ to pursue Reylo, with word of TROS honoring *that* part of TLJ’s plan, of all things, actually damaging it a little bit with the female demographic.

I’m a WASP male... but if I can be a little petty, I want LFL and Disney to be denied the profit they could have had because they decided a shallow abusive romance was the way to go for defining the core of their Trilogy, and the defining story element for the female hero and male villain, and incidentally caught the POCs in the crossfire as well.

Live by Reylo, lose money by Reylo.

It seems too convenient associate the drop of women audience with TLJ following an abusive romance.

There are many other reasons why women audience could drop a film apart from an abusive romance.

 

[8ulk87]

TROS only made 9 million more than Batman V Superman. That movie struggled to make it to $330 million and likewise TROS will struggle to make $500 million domestic and $1 billion worldwide isnt happening

$376,2 mil WW is way to big of a sum to rule a billion out plus its too early at this stage.

 

[psylockolussus]

$376,2 mil WW is way to big of a sum to rule a billion out plus its too early at this stage.

Luckily for Disney, this was released in the holiday season unlike bvs.

 

[godisawesome]

It seems too convenient associate the drop of women audience with TLJ following an abusive romance.

There are many other reasons why women audience could drop a film apart from an abusive romance.

That’s why I want a “correlation” and didn’t ask for a “causation.”

If they chose to pursue Reylo in any way for an attempt at increasing their appeal to women, I want the to at the very least see it didn’t have that desired effect.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Is that a good first monday?

Yup, very good. Early read on Tuesday from BOT is 20-21, which would be a better hold than DoS back in 2013. So it should be something like 226 going into Christmas Day, and Wed thru Sat should all be in the low to mid 30s at least. Ought to be somewhere in the 380 neighborhood after next weekend. Maybe more, could touch 400 if Xmas week is kind.

 

[8ulk87]

Luckily for Disney, this was released in the holiday season unlike bvs.

Yes that too. December legs ftw.

 

[Iceman]

Star Wars will rise again no pun intended. A KOTOR trilogy with Favreau Filoni with Lucas consulting as well as Keanu as Darth Revan will be legendary and could be the biggest thing to hit the box office since Endgame. It’s gonna take a lot of work but The Mandalorian is a great sign that there are still producers who get Star Wars and have Lucas’ blessing

Well that sounds absolutely amazing.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

 

[dhandler01]

As did the quality of this movie

The quality of the whole trilogy is really the culprit. When a standalone film that was a narrative disaster that almost had to be reshot (RO, unlike the other one off that nearly needed to be reshot Solo ) is arguably the best of the Di$ney stories that is not a good sign. The trilogy should have been better mapped out. Sad.

It doesnt matter which of the films you think is good...both TLJ and ROTS are divisive and really bad narrstives for different reasons. That is why they will be largely worthless in the future just like the Prequels.