Discussion in 'The Dark Knight Rises' started by Thread Manager, Oct 24, 2012.
It was a joke, I just found it funny the people questioning everyone's motivations in the TDKR.
How does that prove anything? The nominees were extended because of TDK wasn't nominated, but that was in the same year as IM was released as well. Who knows if IM would have been nominated.
Although, to give us a clue of how AFI's lists fits into the Oscars nominees for Best Film(the bold represents what films were indeed nominated):
The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo
Midnight in Paris
The Tree of Life
The Kids Are All Right
The Social Network
Toy Story 3
The Hurt Locker
A Serious Man
A Single Man
Up In The Air
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
The Dark Knight
Wendy and Lucy
That's what I've always thought, that it's futile to try and gauge what's canon when there's been so many different interpretations of the character that have impacted the main continuity. Something like The Dark Knight Returns, for instance, is technically "else-world" but it has had an incredible amount of influence on everything Batman that came after it, including the Burton and Nolan films. So I really don't care what's canon and what isn't at the end of the day, they're all valid interpretations and stories.
Which is ironic seeing as TDKR might be more of a british film than skyfall. I mean when you count its director and cast it's chock full of brits. Although Bond does have a role in the hearts of brits that's hard to compare to.
Still there has never been a bond nominated before in 50 years and i don't think the bond brand is something that people associate at all with the oscars. Hell i think CR was better than skyfall and it had no oscar buzz at all.
There are rumors that the BFCA (Critics Choice) are adding some new categories like Action and Comedy. It's probably an attempt to pull in more stars in their broadcast but if that's true (I think they announce the nominees tom?) then I expect TDKR to get some nods there (along with movies like Hunger Games, The Avengers, Skyfall, etc.).
i'm not sure if casino royale was oscar worthy, but craig's performance at least deserved a nomination. maybe for skyfall too.
CR definitely wasn't Oscar-worthy from a script standpoint. The story falls apart as soon as Le Chiffre gets killed and then it turns into a cheesy romance with some of the worst dialogue ever. Skyfall had a much better third act.
Disagree. While I enjoyed Skyfall, and it is the best looking Bond movie, the plot is pretty thin. Silva lets himself get caught by Bond to...do what again? Implant a virus in MI6 he could anyway? To sneak into London to get to M at Parliament, which he could have done anyway without MI6 knowing he was there or who he was (and thereby failing to stop him)? Then the third act while entertaining tries to feel profound, but it is just the same third act as Straw Dogs--either version--or even Home Alone where Bond fails to stop Silva.
Casino Royale, while having a very flabby first act (great opening sequences in Prague and Madagascar, but the stuff in Miami and the Caribbean was just there to fluff up the action and runningtime) pulls itself together when it gets to the titular casino. The character work between Bond and Vesper is better than anything in Skyfall and therefore her loss is more deeply felt. The third act doesn't lose its focus, it zeroes in on Bond and Vesper and works for the best.
Just my opinion.
Love Skyfall but this is money. It wants to be the best of the Daniel Craig films but it's just not.
I think it has the most personal and character driven plot of any Bond film since License to Kill. The whole thing is about MI6 as a family unit and the complex bonds formed within. I can see why people find that unsatisfactory, but I think it makes a good change from the end-of-the-world/stop-the-doomsday-device stuff.
Critics' Choice Awards 2013 Nominations:
I was right about the action categories.
I wonder if Lawrence getting 3 nods is what Tapley was whining about last night.
Yeah, I am not liking the new categories at all, BFCA nominations mean very little now... everyone can pretty much get it.
And it'll probably end up where whoever can attend gets an award...
Gina Carano... Really?
Critic's Choice Awards Nominee Gina Carano... iSad now.
I also have no idea why the split Action and Sci-Fi movies into different categories. Isn't Sci-Fi a setting and not a genre?
Wow....those Critics Choice nominees...
No Best Film nomination from BFCA, as well as missing out on the NBR top films is pretty much the final nail that this won't be getting anything.
There are those technical awards, so I think it's silly to say "won't be getting anything".
Yeah, the techs are a given. I was referring to the major awards (BP, Nolan for BD, etc.)
The nominees for the Action Actors isn't bad although I think Liam Neeson (for The Gray) should've been there (there are 2 in that list that he can easily replace IMO). Oh well... At least there's no Robert Pattinson or Taylor Lautner.
One doesn't belong in the Action Actress list and we all know who that is... Scarlett (or maybe Noomi?) should've taken that spot.
Overall, it's still a lame attempt to entice stars of big movies to attend the event.
Does anyone else feel like having those action categories is really condescending and cynical? They should just drop it and stop trying to pander to the masses. Do they think people are too stupid to see through the charade?
Absolutely. I didn't even know these awards , but as i was looking through the list and saw those categories...wow. So condescending.
Its as offensive as the animation and foreign awards in the oscars.
Vote Batman! t:
Haywire is a fantastic film , and Gina plays it really nice. She might not be very versatile , but i actually like her in the movie. That's what's important. Not the ability to do other things. Its about the role she made.
I hope Anne wins in both of her categories.