The Dark Knight Rises TDKR SPOILERS (read at your own risk) - Part 2

[ImAlwaysAngry]

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Is it???

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He didn't say the back was broken. He said vertebrae get outta whack.

I for one adore that you are remaining aloof. It's like watchIng a History Channel special on the Shroud of Turin. You're the voice right before every commercial break ... "OR WAS IT???"

 

[Ferd]

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I don't know. Just wondering if the guy was lying.

Considering he also leaked the prologue and other trailers in the past, my money is down that he is legit. His descriptions are quite detailed and make perfect sense based on the bits we have seen/know to be true.

But if you don't choose to believe him, you'll have the answers soon enough. But I believe him. It's not like he is has a lot to gain anyways. FilmFreak also confirmed a lot.

 

[reper35]

Can anyone post a general overview of the ending please? It's hard to piece together through single posts. Pretty pleaaaaaaaase?

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From what I'm reading, Batman beats Bane so bad it breaks his mask and as Bane is whimpering on the floor Talia surprises Batman with a knife to the torso. She fixes Bane's mask while giving a long story of who she really is. She leaves to complete the plan of nuking Gotham and asks Bane not to kill Batman because she wants him to see Gotham's people burning and know that he can't save them. She leaves and Bane decides to not litsen to Talia and points a shotgun at Batman's head and right before he shoots, Bane is killed by a cannon blast from Catwoman's cannon. Batman gets in the Bat and chases Talia, forcing her to crash to her death. He then grabs the fusion thing and takes it high out of range of doing Gotham harm.

 

[kvz5]

At this point, I'm very excited to see the funny parts in the movie because if you're only reading this thread and the detailed spoilers being talked about, you'd think this movie will not have any light moments at all. So, in a way, the things that I don't know about yet are the funny moments which is good.

 

[MiniBond]

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From what I'm reading, Batman beats Bane so bad it breaks his mask and as Bane is whimpering on the floor Talia surprises Batman with a knife to the torso. She fixes Bane's mask while giving a long story of who she really is. She leaves to complete the plan of nuking Gotham and asks Bane not to kill Batman because she wants him to see Gotham's people burning and know that he can't save them. She leaves and Bane decides to not litsen to Talia and points a shotgun at Batman's head and right before he shoots, Bane is killed by a cannon blast from Catwoman's cannon. Batman gets in the Bat and chases Talia, forcing her to crash to her death. He then grabs the fusion thing and takes it high out of range of doing Gotham harm.

that's not exactly the ending !t:

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

Same with me (every end of production), but the "how" has nothing to do with spoilers...just sayin'.

Exactly. Spoilers are about the "what" and figuring out, or geeking out over, or just preparing myself for that "what" is part of the hype, part of the fun.

Watching the movie has nothing to do with that for me. I experience the movie two ways. One like this, and the other on the screen. Neither diminishes the other.

Oddly, it seems the movies I don't spoil for myself are usually the ones I have to revisit a couple times to settle in on.

Divorcing the suspense of plot and character arc from my viewing experience actually allows me to walk in knowing the goal of the filmmaker, and then more accurately assess and relax enough to enjoy how close or far they got to landing it.

 

[The Shape]

This guy gets it.

He really does. At least about repeat viewing.

Many don't feel the same way as I do, but I think there is a certain wonder in seeing a highly-anticipated film for the first time and NOT knowing how everything will play out. It used to be this way for every movie, when spoilers were not just a few clicks aways. In this day and age, it seems many fear the unknown.

 

[redbirds]

Exactly. Spoilers are about the "what" and figuring out, or geeking out over, or just preparing myself for that "what" is part of the hype, part of the fun.

Watching the movie has nothing to do with that for me. I experience the movie two ways. One like this, and the other on the screen. Neither diminishes the other.

Oddly, it seems the movies I don't spoil for myself are usually the ones I have to revisit a couple times to settle in on.

Divorcing the suspense of plot and character arc from my viewing experience actually allows me to walk in knowing the goal of the filmmaker, and then assessing how close or far they got to landing it.

This explanation right here is why I don't get the whole "OH MY GOD SPOILERS!" freak out people do. However, there are movies where spoilers would suck.

The BIGGEST ONE is The Usual Suspects. That movie needs to be unspoiled for somebody who hasn't seen it i think.

 

[Ferd]

Surprises don't make the movie. It's sure to still be a breathtaking spectacle; knowing plot points won't change that. TDK is every bit the good movie I saw the 10th time as it was the 1st. This spoiler 'ruining' movies idea is a tired fallacy that needs to die.

 

[The Shape]

Divorcing the suspense of plot and character arc from my viewing experience actually allows me to walk in knowing the goal of the filmmaker, and then assessing how close or far they got to landing it.

Interesting way of looking at things and I respect this notion, as a student of film. It's a different way to look at films and filmmaking.

Much better than the reasoning some people throw around for obsessing over spoilers, which basically boils down to: "I LIKE TEH KNOW DA STORY CUZ IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTA"

 

[The Shape]

This explanation right here is why I don't get the whole "OH MY GOD SPOILERS!" freak out people do. However, there are movies where spoilers would suck.

The BIGGEST ONE is The Usual Suspects. That movie needs to be unspoiled for somebody who hasn't seen it i think.

One could argue the same for TDKR, Inception, and many, many other films.

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

He really does. At least about repeat viewing.

Many don't feel the same way as I do, but I think there is a certain wonder in seeing a highly-anticipated film for the first time and NOT knowing how everything will play out. It used to be this way for every movie, when spoilers were not just a few clicks aways. In this day and age, it seems many fear the unknown.

I'm arguing that spoilers actually take the edge off for me and allow me to not over intellectualize or try to figure out as I go. I just get to experience, without my mind shooting off in a hundred directions, which only leads to disappointment usually.

I mean, if I'd read spoilers for ASM, I might have enjoyed it more, since I wouldn't have any expectation of it being a coherent or dramatically satisfying picture. But because I knew nothing, I was pummeled over the head repeatedly by disappointment after disappointment.

 

[reper35]

that's not exactly the ending !t:

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I thought about writing all the cafe, blake, gotham rebuilding, and will reading, but I am using a Blacberry phone to type and it is a chore. I think he got almosty the end.

 

[NateHevens]

He really does. At least about repeat viewing.

Many don't feel the same way as I do, but I think there is a certain wonder in seeing a highly-anticipated film for the first time and NOT knowing how everything will play out. It used to be this way for every movie, when spoilers were not just a few clicks aways. In this day and age, it seems many fear the unknown.

I don't think it's "fear of the unknown". I think it's just different ways of enjoying a film. When I go in to see a highly anticipated film, I go in to see how well the director pulled it off. That's why spoilers don't bother me. I want to see how it's all put together.

 

[redbirds]

One could argue the same for TDKR, Inception, and many, many other films.

Well, fort the Usual Suspects the twist at the end is so important. For TDKR, fans can predict a lot already because its based off comics.

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There is no real SHOCKING truth really. TDKR is more about the experience and the subtlety leading up to the climax.

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

"I LIKE TEH KNOW DA STORY CUZ IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTA"

Best laugh of the day. I love using CAPSLOCK to mock inappropriate uses of CAPSLOCK.

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

I usually try to back off the heavy stuff right at the end, but this is a little different in that it's, you know, THE END, so the last sequence has been the driving discussion.

 

[Frontier]

IMHO... there are few occasions when spoilers truly ruin a film. "The 6th Sense" as one. But that's very, very, very rare.

But 99 out of 100 times? A "spoiler" doesn't ruin anything unless the individual wishes it to.

IE, those who want spoilers should be free to have them and those who do not, free to avoid them.

Depriving those who want them from having them simply because the person(s) with such knowledge thinks it's best, IE are 'protecting' people from themselves and their desire for such knowledge... that's nonsense and a bit arrogant of anyone thinks along such lines.

If you know how a film plays our or ends, and people want to know, you should tell them without hesitation. It is their decision whether they wish to know.

To hold back out of a sense of "oh, I'm saving you from ruining it for yourself" is patronizing.

People are different. Some people enjoy knowing and seeing it play out. Some people don't like surprises. Why is that so wrong? Why is it so hard for people to grasp? Why, because the majority do enjoy such, do the minority who don't have to suffer at the whims of those with such knowledge who deem themselves suitable to make decisions on others behalf?

Tell those who want to know. Do not tell those who do not want to know.

It's pretty simple and easy. And people who hold back information to try and "help" people who want to know from spoiling it for themselves? ... Get over yourself. Seriously.

 

[Schlosser85]

Unless it's some huge, shocking twist, I don't feel that spoilers ruin the movie.

Reading a description and watching the scene unfold onscreen are totally different experiences, to me.

Which is why, while I actively seek out spoilers on here, I DID wish I hadn't watched quite as many clips from TDK before seeing it.

 

[Ferd]

IMHO... there are few occasions when spoilers truly ruin a film. "The 6th Sense" as one. But that's very, very, very rare.

But 99 out of 100 times? A "spoiler" doesn't ruin anything unless the individual wishes it to.

IE, those who want spoilers should be free to have them and those who do not, free to avoid them.

Depriving those who want them from having them simply because the person(s) with such knowledge thinks it's best, IE are 'protecting' people from themselves and their desire for such knowledge... that's nonsense and a bit arrogant of anyone thinks along such lines.

If you know how a film plays our or ends, and people want to know, you should tell them without hesitation. It is their decision whether they wish to know.

To hold back out of a sense of "oh, I'm saving you from ruining it for yourself" is patronizing.

People are different. Some people enjoy knowing and seeing it play out. Some people don't like surprises. Why is that so wrong? Why is it so hard for people to grasp? Why, because the majority do enjoy such, do the minority who don't have to suffer at the whims of those with such knowledge who deem themselves suitable to make decisions on others behalf?

Tell those who want to know. Do not tell those who do not want to know.

It's pretty simple and easy. And people who hold back information to try and "help" people who want to know from spoiling it for themselves? ... Get over yourself. Seriously.

I absolutely agree. But as we all know, knowledge = power, and people generally don't like losing power. It's not always as noble as wanting to save people from themselves.

 

[batou]

i remember when dark knight released i was not able to watch the movie in the first couple of days as there were no tickets avail, but my friends did, i asked them all the details and when i watched the movie the it was an awesome experience. it was so good that i ended up watching it 4 times in the theater again. knowing the plot details did not make any difference. people need to get over it.

 

[ImAlwaysAngry]

Well, I mean it's just as much within the one who has seen it's rights to divulge or not divulge however much they want. Some people genuinely don't want to ruin things for someone else. Everybody's different. I for one really enjoy the way Shape gave intimations and hints and vagueries. It was great fun.

 

[Ferd]

I for one really enjoy the way Shape gave intimations and hints and vagueries. It was great fun.

Haha! I agree with this. I mean, the vague, one-word replies did seem to mount the anticipation, didn't it? He chose his words carefully, but gave away a bit if you were paying attention to the small details.

But I'm not sorry at all that someone else came along and filled in the pages with much more detail and description.

To each their own. Spoilers and people who want them/share them won't be going away.

 

[The Joker]

I am a sucker for spoilers. The more I know the more excited I get. I anticipate seeing it all on screen.

 

[reper35]

7 and half hours until the embargo is lifted!!

Who will be the first to review the movie?

It will most likely be at 100 percent for a day or two on rotten tomatoes until the everybody likes it, so I won't critics get their hands on it.