The Dark Knight Rises The 79th TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread

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^ The suit has been revealed long ago, and it kicks ass! It's the first time ever that superman truly does look Bad_Ass!

As for the aborted script involving a tornado scene and about it being used in Snyders reboot - who cares. It hasn't been seen before.
 
Supes undoes a tornado in the atrocity Superman III.

Does anyone think WB will maybe start marketing a little earlier than June due to the somewhat-failure of Dark Shadows?
 
Supes undoes a tornado in the atrocity Superman III.

Does anyone think WB will maybe start marketing a little earlier than June due to the somewhat-failure of Dark Shadows?

Yeah, okay. Cause that's a really memorable scene, huh. Come on. That scene is over in like 2 seconds and it looks so dumb. The explained sequence in MOS is something else entirely.
 
Supes undoes a tornado in the atrocity Superman III.

Does anyone think WB will maybe start marketing a little earlier than June due to the somewhat-failure of Dark Shadows?

I think the earliest that we'll see something is with 'Rises'. There's no need for starting the marketing earlier then July because of the failure of 'Dark Shadows'. On a side note though - I'm really fed up with Tim Burtons kinky obsession with Johnny Depp! It's like he can't make a movie without him any more. Every time they dress up Depp in new stupid make-up, that yet still looks like a rehash of all that's come before. Lame.
 
Yeah, okay. Cause that's a really memorable scene, huh. Come on. That scene is over in like 2 seconds and it looks so dumb. The explained sequence in MOS is something else entirely.

Everything about Superman 3 is dumb, thus the word "atrocity".
I'm sure the Snyder scene will be absolute eye-candy and have a lot more to do with a much better written script.
I just wasn't sure if any of you remembered that 2 seconds.
 
I think the earliest that we'll see something is with 'Rises'. There's no need for starting the marketing earlier then July because of the failure of 'Dark Shadows'. On a side note though - I'm really fed up with Tim Burtons kinky obsession with Johnny Depp! It's like he can't make a movie without him any more. Every time they dress up Depp in new stupid make-up, that yet still looks like a rehash of all that's come before. Lame.

100% agreed.
Hell, I bet if Burton made Batman nowadays rather than '89 Depp would be Batman and we'd all be very sad.
 
Everything about Superman 3 is dumb, thus the word "atrocity".
I'm sure the Snyder scene will be absolute eye-candy and have a lot more to do with a much better written script.
I just wasn't sure if any of you remembered that 2 seconds.

I remember it :yay: Actually, there's quite a few things I really dig in Superman 3. The production is way way better then superman 4. And as I recall, superman 3 was actually the most expensive of the whole bunch. Visually, it's actually very well made for its time. Superman 4 was just horrendous all around! The only thing I can smile about in Superman 4, is the dobbel-date sequence Clark and Superman has with Lois & Lacy. That was actually pretty damn funny :woot:

Superman 3, for me, is like Spidey 3. I could take it apart and pull out a whole bunch of scenes that I really thought was cool. But seen as a whole, the movie is just dumb, yes!
 


Thanks for reposting! It's something I know a lot of people are kinda wondering about on a lot of the boards/sites I attend, along with tons of my buddies and obviously myself :woot:

Also, "Welton confirms this to be part of a strategy of “various forms of IMAX differentiation” that also includes exclusive IMAX engagements prior to the general release date." From this link: http://www.filmjournal.com/filmjour...s/cinemas/e3ib2de80c71a03c7800389970b540cb2de

seems to go along with what Gil told us before. Really hoping that includes real IMAX theaters. I'd do nearly anything to be able to see the film early with my girlfriend.

-Vader
 
100% agreed.
Hell, I bet if Burton made Batman nowadays rather than '89 Depp would be Batman and we'd all be very sad.

You do know that back in the 90's when Burton was considering making superman, he wanted Nicholas ****ing Cage to be superman! Dear God, lol! He could easily point to Depp as a possible Batman, if he had his choice now at days :woot:
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but in the trailer, when Alfred says, "I won't bury you. I've buried enough members of the Wayne family." His outfit looks awfully the same as the one he was wearing at the end of TDK. Maybe this implies Bruce/Bats is attacked by Bane after TDK? Then Bruce is gone 8 years and comes back after escaping prison? Could someone maybe post a side-by-side comparison?
 
I've got a question for Gil/anyone potentially in the know- what's the status of double screenings for TDK/TDKR back to back? Last Gil mentioned it was in march I think, saying they're deliberating between doing an exclusive deal with AMC, etc, but the likelihood it'd be real IMAX is low.

Just wondering if there's any kind of update as of yet. Gil, you've been supplying info for ages and ages, I've been following your posts on here for years, your contributions to the batman community are amazing.

Best,

-Vader

March was the last I heard anything of them trying to put something like that together. Nothing else has been thrown at me, so I'd say chances are slim, unless an agreement was made and it's just being kept on the down low for the time being.

This next bit is just an FYI for the posters on this forum...
I know things have been scarce. There's been little to no new content released, and it's a bit disappointing. Even though I'm trying to keep myself away from most spoilers, the effort thus far in the marketing department has been underwhelming to say the least. I've been extremely critical of the campaign they've thrown together thus far and think they've essentially dropped the ball on some really great opportunities.

Having said that, it is important to remember that they have come up with/developed a lot of fantastic ideas that'll never see the light of day. (Remember the GCPD virals I spoke of forever ago? Well, your frame by frame trailer game was supposed to be a big pay off to a much better experience). Sometimes, logistically, for one reason or another, whether its budget restraints, contractual obligations, etc. etc. things just don't work out. It happens. With a monster film like this, and everyone trying to get a piece of the action, it's hard not to stretch yourself out too thin. Sometimes, there's just not enough content, man hours to get the job done.

People like to complain and talk as if they've got the magical answer for this campaign (Hell, I'm one of them), but the truth is, the people who develop this stuff have already explored 99.9% of all the "brilliant" ideas that get thrown around here and elsewhere. If you think you've got the answer, trust me, they've already looked into it, and there's a thousand reasons why it can't or won't be done.

I don't know when the next still of Catwoman will be released. I don't know the exact moment the first TV spot will air so we can all DVR it. I don't entirely know why some of the great ideas they had are going left unused or scratched. But I do know, in today's marketplace, things can get complicated really fast, and things will change at the drop of a hat. It's just the state of media. It's not like it was 10 years ago, where the internet wasn't so prominent, and these things had to be worked out ages and ages in advance on an extremely strict, tight schedule.

I do know that next month (as many have gathered) is the big blitz. You'll get your merch, your action figures, your Pepsi Co tie-in with it's own cool content (via Mtn Dew), TV spots, more magazine/media coverage, and all sorts of material.

It's almost all over. So just enjoy it while you can.
 
I think the earliest that we'll see something is with 'Rises'. There's no need for starting the marketing earlier then July because of the failure of 'Dark Shadows'. On a side note though - I'm really fed up with Tim Burtons kinky obsession with Johnny Depp! It's like he can't make a movie without him any more. Every time they dress up Depp in new stupid make-up, that yet still looks like a rehash of all that's come before. Lame.

I love Depp but I have to admit that this is getting stale. I wouldn't mind if they were challenging themselves a bit, but they're so stuck in their comfort zone that their creative output has been 'meh' as of late.

Depp can do better. That's why I want him to do some more indie movies. When Katherine Bigalow wanted Depp for that 'Triple Frontier' movie, I was excited until the project got halted in favor for Bigalow's Bin Laden film...

And with Burton...needs an intervention because the man's getting lazy.
 
Look at Pitt, Depp. He's doing the best work in his career right now.
 
Gill are you still planning to do the tell-all after the film is released and everything has died down? I'm really looking forward to that.
 
Thanks for the reply! Gil, what do you make of Welton's comments in the article I linked about early screenings? It's fairly recent, came out today, interview took place last month at cinemacon.

-Vader
 
I think the marketing for TDKR has been competent but very lethargic thus far. Yeah Gil, I can sense that they're just hesitant to spend too much money on the marketing. But it will come.

It just doesn't have that hype that TDK had but that was a different story when viral was a new thing, the economy was better, and Heath's Joker.. It's just a changing world in Hollywood, and I think many are noticing how lost the industry is right now.
 
March was the last I heard anything of them trying to put something like that together. Nothing else has been thrown at me, so I'd say chances are slim, unless an agreement was made and it's just being kept on the down low for the time being.

This next bit is just an FYI for the posters on this forum...
I know things have been scarce. There's been little to no new content released, and it's a bit disappointing. Even though I'm trying to keep myself away from most spoilers, the effort thus far in the marketing department has been underwhelming to say the least. I've been extremely critical of the campaign they've thrown together thus far and think they've essentially dropped the ball on some really great opportunities.

Having said that, it is important to remember that they have come up with/developed a lot of fantastic ideas that'll never see the light of day. (Remember the GCPD virals I spoke of forever ago? Well, your frame by frame trailer game was supposed to be a big pay off to a much better experience). Sometimes, logistically, for one reason or another, whether its budget restraints, contractual obligations, etc. etc. things just don't work out. It happens. With a monster film like this, and everyone trying to get a piece of the action, it's hard not to stretch yourself out too thin. Sometimes, there's just not enough content, man hours to get the job done.

People like to complain and talk as if they've got the magical answer for this campaign (Hell, I'm one of them), but the truth is, the people who develop this stuff have already explored 99.9% of all the "brilliant" ideas that get thrown around here and elsewhere. If you think you've got the answer, trust me, they've already looked into it, and there's a thousand reasons why it can't or won't be done.

I don't know when the next still of Catwoman will be released. I don't know the exact moment the first TV spot will air so we can all DVR it. I don't entirely know why some of the great ideas they had are going left unused or scratched. But I do know, in today's marketplace, things can get complicated really fast, and things will change at the drop of a hat. It's just the state of media. It's not like it was 10 years ago, where the internet wasn't so prominent, and these things had to be worked out ages and ages in advance on an extremely strict, tight schedule.

I do know that next month (as many have gathered) is the big blitz. You'll get your merch, your action figures, your Pepsi Co tie-in with it's own cool content (via Mtn Dew), TV spots, more magazine/media coverage, and all sorts of material.

It's almost all over. So just enjoy it while you can.

Sigh. I thought this month was supposed to be the beginning of the media blitz. Oh well. Thanks for the info, though.
 
Gill, do you think the lackluster marketing will hurt the movie at all? Or is the movie so good that none of this matters?
 
Gill, do you think the lackluster marketing will hurt the movie at all? Or is the movie so good that none of this matters?

I'm not Gill, but I'm gonna venture to say no. I think WB is just banking on the Dark Knight/Batman name value this time around. It's a more subtle approach.

Also, I feel like when June rolls over, we'll feel the Batman fever. Eventually.
 
No, it won't hurt the film. But if they want to compete with Avengers, they better kick things up a notch.
 
IMO, it is pretty much a given we will get a teaser for MoS with Rises.

God, I LOVED the teaser for Superman Returns...
 
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