The Dark Knight Rises The 79th TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread

[Octoberist]

IMO, it is pretty much a given we will get a teaser for MoS with Rises.

God, I LOVED the teaser for Superman Returns...

I hope so. We shall see...

 

[gillberg2k1]

Also, I feel like when June rolls over, we'll feel the Batman fever. Eventually.

^This.

 

[Hurm...]

I hope so. We shall see...

It's going to happen. Just like the Watchmen teaser with TDK. It's WB thinking ahead.

 

[gillberg2k1]

Thanks for the reply! Gil, what do you make of Welton's comments in the article I linked about early screenings? It's fairly recent, came out today, interview took place last month at cinemacon.

-Vader

Early screening stuff has been talked about since the beginning (most likely via a viral game to get you there). I'm going to go ahead and assume that's what he's referencing, without actually spilling the beans. Although there was also discussion of opening the IMAX versions on Wednesday the 18th, which is still entirely possible.

So what I'm going to assume, is the viral screening will take place on Tuesday the 17th, IMAX opening on Wednesday, with full general release Friday.

 

[Street Vendor]

No, it won't hurt the film. But if they want to compete with Avengers, they better kick things up a notch.

Thanks for the reply. I agree that they need to kickstart the marketing ASAP.

 

[Vader815]

So a bit like Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol's marketing campaign for IMAX, which worked phenomenally. The internet was buzzing, and kids and even professors at my university had an awareness for IMAX I hadn't ever experienced outside of message boards, this is a very smart move. By then, anticipation is going to be crazy so seeing it a day or two early will really drive IMAX sales and awareness in general.

Between this news and confirmation Rises has over an hour of IMAX footage, along with the mostly confirmed 150m running time from Gil, my anticipation's at an all time high.

-Vader

 

[CaptainSpunk]

I think they're counting on the fact that they wont have to do much marketing for TDKR's as compared to TDK. I believe they will ramp up the hype machine soon and really pour it on for the last month or so to let all the regular people know its coming out. But they have a problem with TDKR. No one except fans like us even know who the heck Bane is. I asked my parents and a bunch of my friends and they have NO idea. Plus Bane isn't as flashy as the Joker either.
I'll say it right now. I dont think TDKR will do as well as TDK did in terms of the Box Office.
As for the Depp talk. Johnny Depp is the definition of "over-exposed". And Tim Burton... Dont get me started on that 1 trick pony. I wonder what movie Tim Burton, Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter will do next? I think its a safe bet that Depp will be in another incarnation of his weirdo look that he's had for the last 8-9 movies. I really cant believe the studios still give Burton money to make "sheet" movies...

 

[Naite22]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but in the trailer, when Alfred says, "I won't bury you. I've buried enough members of the Wayne family." His outfit looks awfully the same as the one he was wearing at the end of TDK. Maybe this implies Bruce/Bats is attacked by Bane after TDK? Then Bruce is gone 8 years and comes back after escaping prison? Could someone maybe post a side-by-side comparison?

I haven't exactly noticed the suit of Alfreds, BUT! I have given the following some thought.

Think about the proloque. How exactly does it start? It starts with Gordon giving a speech about Dent. "I believed in Harvey Dent". That's the very first ting that happens, BEFORE we cut over to the plane hijacking sequence. And this is suppose to be the whole beginning of 'Rises', like the proloque for 'TDK' was a direct transfer for the opening of that film, right. If that's the same here, can we than agree on the fact that it's a bit of a weird opener Not the plane hijacking sequence it self, but the fact that right before that, right after the icy logo has come and gone off screen, the first thing we're than introduced to is Gordon giving that speech. Point being, that it would make sense if that speech was given short after the events that occurred in 'TDK', after they sort of "cleaned up" the city, and things had calmed down. Gotham is of course in mourning, and this would be a day of honoring the good things Harvey did for the people of the city. A homage to the "white knight", that was Harvey Dent. It seems a bit weird if that was the case of them doing so 8 years after, I think. So I've had the thought of that scene supposedly taking place short after 'TDK' ends? After that, we only first than go ahead in time, skipping 8 years, and off we go with the plane hijacking.

If that's the case, than the proloque for 'Rises' has indeed been edited and kept a secret for the audience. Could this at all be the case??? I wouldn't be to hesitant to rule it out as a possibility

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I think they're counting on the fact that they wont have to do much marketing for TDKR's as compared to TDK. I believe they will ramp up the hype machine soon and really pour it on for the last month or so to let all the regular people know its coming out. But they have a problem with TDKR. No one except fans like us even know who the heck Bane is. I asked my parents and a bunch of my friends and they have NO idea. Plus Bane isn't as flashy as the Joker either.
I'll say it right now. I dont think TDKR will do as well as TDK did in terms of the Box Office.

It doesn't matter at this point. It's a Chris Nolan Batman flick, and I beg to differ. While the villain isn't well-known as The Joker, the general audience is extremely curious into finding out who the badass is (that kicked Batman's ass) in the trailer.

 

[Travesty]

A couple of my friends didn't know Catwoman was in the movie, even after watching the 3rd trailer.

 

[Reek]

I showed my dad the trailers not long ago... "Bane? The dude that was with Poison Ivy? Why does he look like Scorpion?"

 

[Naite22]

It doesn't matter at this point. It's a Chris Nolan Batman flick, and I beg to differ. While the villain isn't well-known as The Joker, the general audience is extremely curious into finding out who the badass is (that kicked Batman's ass) in the trailer.

Agreed

Nolan is doing it just right. Bane isn't well known by most, but he has a very unique badass look going. And there's more dark mystery surrounding this character, then there was for the Joker. People are curious.

 

[Alchemy Arcade]

If that's the case, than the proloque for 'Rises' has indeed been edited and kept a secret for the audience. Could this at all be the case??? I wouldn't be to hesitant to rule it out as a possibility

Actually I wouldn't put this past Nolan & Co. And if the plane sequence is NOT indeed after Gordon's Speech/Eulogy it would make me smile to see them take everything we thought we knew about the first few minutes of the film and give us a "gotcha" moment, and transition us to the "8 year later" mark with a "Batman on the run scene".

But I wouldn't bet this is the case.

(I kind of hope I'm wrong)

 

[Reek]

Is everyone still getting this 'lost connection' crap?

 

[Alchemy Arcade]

Is everyone still getting this 'lost connection' crap?

Yes. For the past 2 days

 

[Reek]

I see...my mere presence overloads the hype... apologies.

 

[The Joker]

A couple of my friends didn't know Catwoman was in the movie, even after watching the 3rd trailer.

Who did they think Hathaway was in costume then?

Is everyone still getting this 'lost connection' crap?

Yes. It's so annoying

 

[Fullmetal]

Hey guys, I just noticed something different on Batman-News.com, just look right under the countdown timer it has this ad for the movie...

http://www.yceml.net/0013/11006989-2.jpg

Now this puzzles me, why would Fandango post this ad on their site today when the tickets really are not on sale right now (Still that IMAX-3D typeo is annoying and they need to remove the "3D" and just leave it "IMAX" lol). But could this be a hint the advance IMAX tickets are going to be available online soon? *.*

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Agreed

Nolan is doing it just right. Bane isn't well known by most, but he has a very unique badass look going. And there's more dark mystery surrounding this character, then there was for the Joker. People are curious.

Precisely. Back in 08, WB plastered The Joker in almost every other scene in the trailer (including dialogue). It's nice to see Bane covered in mystery. In three trailers, he's only had four lines of dialogue, but the message was sent. Bane is a bad mofo, and the image of him carelessy dropping Batman's cowl in a mockery was a beautiful illustration.

 

[shauner111]

I haven't exactly noticed the suit of Alfreds, BUT! I have given the following some thought.

Think about the proloque. How exactly does it start? It starts with Gordon giving a speech about Dent. "I believed in Harvey Dent". That's the very first ting that happens, BEFORE we cut over to the plane hijacking sequence. And this is suppose to be the whole beginning of 'Rises', like the proloque for 'TDK' was a direct transfer for the opening of that film, right. If that's the same here, can we than agree on the fact that it's a bit of a weird opener Not the plane hijacking sequence it self, but the fact that right before that, right after the icy logo has come and gone off screen, the first thing we're than introduced to is Gordon giving that speech. Point being, that it would make sense if that speech was given short after the events that occurred in 'TDK', after they sort of "cleaned up" the city, and things had calmed down. Gotham is of course in mourning, and this would be a day of honoring the good things Harvey did for the people of the city. A homage to the "white knight", that was Harvey Dent. It seems a bit weird if that was the case of them doing so 8 years after, I think. So I've had the thought of that scene supposedly taking place short after 'TDK' ends? After that, we only first than go ahead in time, skipping 8 years, and off we go with the plane hijacking.

If that's the case, than the proloque for 'Rises' has indeed been edited and kept a secret for the audience. Could this at all be the case??? I wouldn't be to hesitant to rule it out as a possibility

They could be fooling us all and they'll start it 8 years later right after the prologue and through the first half of the film they'll show us flashbacks to the 8 years of Bruce being held captive while Gotham is at peace. Til Bane arrives. But im sure there's proof that it can't make sense. Im just too tired to think of it right now lol.

But for me the Gordon speech at the start is because we may be getting some kind of funeral OR at least some ceremony that honours Bruce Wayne at the end of the film. That would make sense as to why it's in the start of the film. Harvey was the false hero, it ends with Bruce being the hero the city really deserved.

Or it's just for ppl to catch up by starting with the end of TDK, go into the prologue which takes place right before Bane and his men arrive at Gotham (8 yrs later). Then we see Gotham at peace, but Bruce is in Wayne Manor and the batcave with a beard and going a bit crazy. While they establish Selina, Blake and the rest of them, as well as the debut of Bane in Gotham. Which will probably be at the stock exchange. Don't think its that difficult.

 

[Nevincer]

A couple of my friends didn't know Catwoman was in the movie, even after watching the 3rd trailer.

Probably thrown off by how simplistic her costume was and how she was portrayed as supporting cast/ally in the trailer. GA could probably mistake her for batgirl in the previews if it weren't for the seductive stuff.

 

[Travesty]

Who did they think Hathaway was in costume then?

Batgirl. They obviously don't read the comics, and they still see Catwoman as a villain from the '60s show, so when they saw her fighting along side Batman, they just assumed.

 

[The Joker]

But for me the Gordon speech at the start is because we may be getting some kind of funeral OR at least some ceremony that honours Bruce Wayne at the end of the film. That would make sense as to why it's in the start of the film. Harvey was the false hero, it ends with Bruce being the hero the city really deserved.

Or it's just for ppl to catch up by starting with the end of TDK, go into the prologue which takes place right before Bane and his men arrive at Gotham (8 yrs later). Then we see Gotham at peace, but Bruce is in Wayne Manor and the batcave with a beard and going a bit crazy. While they establish Selina, Blake and the rest of them, as well as the debut of Bane in Gotham. Which will probably be at the stock exchange. Don't think its that difficult.

A more simple explanation for the Gordon speech about Dent;

In fact, fans may want to revisit that second film, as Nolan tells EW that the last chapter of his cinematic saga explores the ramifications of The Dark Knight’s chilling climax, in which Batman and super-cop Jim Gordon (Gary Oldman) hatch a conspiracy to cover up the sins of Gotham City’s so-called “white knight,” the late Harvey Dent, a.k.a. Two-Face (Aaron Eckhart).

http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/01/11/this-weeks-cover-dark-knight-rises-forecast-2012/

 

[Brother Jack]

Precisely. Back in 08, WB plastered The Joker in almost every other scene in the trailer (including dialogue). It's nice to see Bane covered in mystery. In three trailers, he's only had four lines of dialogue, but the message was sent. Bane is a bad mofo, and the image of him carelessy dropping Batman's cowl in a mockery was a beautiful illustration.

And he only been referred to by name once not counting the prologue. I think it's more important that people are intrigued by the film and want to see it than they are familiar with any individual character who's not Batman (or been in previous installments). Once they see the movie they'll definitely know who Bane is.

 

[Nevincer]

Batgirl.

DING DING DING!

Called it.