The Dark Knight Rises The 80th TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - Part 83

[DoctorJackstraw]

So robocop is voicing Batman in DKR? Not exactly Michael Ironside, but it will do fabulously. At least they didn't pick Conroy.

 

[redfirebird2008]

I wish they'd just slap on the credits at the Batman Rise poster and make it the official theatrical poster like this:

Completely agree!

 

[redfirebird2008]

So much agreed. I'd love that as a BD-cover.

If nothing else, we can make our own BD covers with it.

 

[Caped Crusader]

I wish they'd just slap on the credits at the Batman Rise poster and make it the official theatrical poster like this:

Hope this is the Blu ray cover t:

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

So much agreed. I'd love that as a BD-cover.

I think I'd like the broken mask poster as a cover.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Is anyone else going to be wondering where the Joker is while watching the TDKR?

I know it'll be 8 years later, so would Joker still be in Arkham? Would Bane not consider releasing him (Bane seems to free a lot of other in-mates, but who knows if that's Arkham or not)? Would Bane know of the Joker and his exploits? Will Nolan not even reference the Joker, despite the end of the TDK having a supposedly long lasting impact on Bruce and Gotham (both positive and negative impacts)?

I respect that Nolan doesn't want to show the Joker, which I have no problem with, but I can't help wonder where he is in the film's universe...

 

[Alchemy Arcade]

I think I'd like the broken mask poster as a cover.

This.
Or the teaser poster as a slip cover and the Broken Mask as a case cover.

I think I might be in the minority on loving that teaser poster.

 

[Caped Crusader]

A little off topic.. But Peter Weller as Batman in TDK Returns made my day!

t:t:t:t:

 

[Boom]

Is anyone else going to be wondering where the Joker is while watching the TDKR?

I know it'll be 8 years later, so would Joker still be in Arkham? Would Bane not consider releasing him (Bane seems to free a lot of other in-mates, but who knows if that's Arkham or not)? Would Bane know of the Joker and his exploits? Will Nolan not even reference the Joker, despite the end of the TDK having a supposedly long lasting impact on Bruce and Gotham (both positive and negative impacts)?

I respect that Nolan doesn't want to show the Joker, which I have no problem with, but I can't help wonder where he is in the film's universe...

As much as people hate this idea, I honestly think Nolan's Joker would've ended up in a prison rather than a mental institution.

We had a lengthy discussion about this months ago. Insanity, being a legal term, is the inability to distinguish right from wrong. The Joker knew exactly what he was doing, and knew that it was wrong. He just didn't care.

But no matter where he ended up, it's not in the least bit surprising that he's still locked up after eight years.

 

[craigdbfan]

As much as people hate this idea, I honestly think Nolan's Joker would've ended up in a prison rather than a mental institution.

We had a lengthy discussion about this months ago. Insanity, being a legal term, is the inability to distinguish right from wrong. The Joker knew exactly what he was doing, and knew that it was wrong. He just didn't care.

Thank you. Where were you when I needed you Boom?

 

[Nevincer]

I wish they'd just slap on the credits at the Batman Rise poster and make it the official theatrical poster like this:

Seriously. Everything on this poster drips Batman.

 

[Kane52630]

Oh Joker knew exactly what he was doing, but he can always pull the insanity plea if he wanted to. I say he's in Arkham and not Blackgate but hey, everyone has their interpretation.

 

[Boom]

Thank you. Where were you when I needed you Boom?

At my girlfriend's .

I'm here for you now, baby .

 

[onthecouchagain]

As much as people hate this idea, I honestly think Nolan's Joker would've ended up in a prison rather than a mental institution.

We had a lengthy discussion about this months ago. Insanity, being a legal term, is the inability to distinguish right from wrong. The Joker knew exactly what he was doing, and knew that it was wrong. He just didn't care.

But no matter where he ended up, it's not in the least bit surprising that he's still locked up after eight years.

I guess the in-mates that Bane frees wouldn't be from a maximum security jail where the Joker would likely be.

 

[The Joker]

As much as people hate this idea, I honestly think Nolan's Joker would've ended up in a prison rather than a mental institution.

We had a lengthy discussion about this months ago. Insanity, being a legal term, is the inability to distinguish right from wrong. The Joker knew exactly what he was doing, and knew that it was wrong. He just didn't care.

"You'll be in a padded cell forever"

Plenty of psychos know what they're doing is illegal and are smart enough to elude the law over it. One of cinema's most famous ones, Hannibal Lecter, was well aware of it and he ended up in an asylum when he was caught.

He was a psychiatrist of all things.

But no matter where he ended up, it's not in the least bit surprising that he's still locked up after eight years.

That I agree with. Joker's crimes would see him locked up for the rest of his natural life.

 

[Boom]

I guess the in-mates that Bane frees wouldn't be from a maximum security jail where the Joker would likely be.

That's the way I look at it. He could be out-of-state.

 

[Alchemy Arcade]

Is anyone else going to be wondering where the Joker is while watching the TDKR?

I know it'll be 8 years later, so would Joker still be in Arkham? Would Bane not consider releasing him (Bane seems to free a lot of other in-mates, but who knows if that's Arkham or not)? Would Bane know of the Joker and his exploits? Will Nolan not even reference the Joker, despite the end of the TDK having a supposedly long lasting impact on Bruce and Gotham (both positive and negative impacts)?

I respect that Nolan doesn't want to show the Joker, which I have no problem with, but I can't help wonder where he is in the film's universe...

I predict that there will be no more than just a mention of the Joker pertaining to the events of TDK.

I know there are still some people not paying as close attention to TDKR as we are that are pinning hope on seeing/hearing something more about the Joker, but those people are going to be disappointed.

 

[Boom]

Eh. I'd say there's a huge difference between shooting/blowing up people and eating people, but then again I'm not a psychiatrist/lawyer.

Not to mention the fact that, for The Joker to get an insanity verdict, he'd most likely have to be tried outside of Gotham City. I can't imagine he would have gotten an impartial and unbiased jury after threatening the entire city with mass murder.

 

[Caped Crusader]

"You'll be in a padded cell forever"

That I agree with. Joker's crimes would see him locked up for the rest of his natural life.

Until he breaks free

 

[Travesty]

I don't even think they'll mention him, for some reason.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The Joker, wherever he is, isn't at Blackgate. Obviously.

I wonder, is Nolan's Arkham even an active institution post Begins?

 

[The Joker]

Eh. I'd say there's a huge difference between shooting/blowing up people and eating people.

He's a criminal who steals money and then burns it. He's a criminal who dresses like a clown, has a possible self inflicted cut smile on his face, broadcasts torture videos on national TV, plays mind games with people to blow each other up, cuts smiles and paints clown make up on his victims faces etc.

These are not the actions of a sane man.

Not to mention the fact that, for The Joker to get an insanity verdict, he'd most likely have to be tried outside of Gotham City. I can't imagine he would have gotten an impartial and unbiased jury after threatening the entire city.

You're playing the realism card too much here. You're talking about a movie universe where the Police and the Mayor of a major city look the other way to a vigilante dressed as a bat. Where a ninja organization in the Himalayas has been sorting out the justices of the world for hundreds of years.

Joker getting an insanity plea in Gotham is ten times more likely than that.

 

[Caped Crusader]

I don't see how The Joker can't be mentioned

 

[sly]

The Joker factor in TDKR is such an interesting conversation, because we know he'd be there if Heath was still around... but it's fun to figure out story wise how you make it work if, for example, the audience had no idea the actor passed away.

 

[Boom]

He's a criminal who steals money and then burns it. He's a criminal who dresses like a clown, has a possible self inflicted cut smile on his face, broadcasts torture videos on national TV, plays mind games with people to blow each other up, cuts smiles and paints clown make up on his victims faces etc.

These are not the actions of a sane man.



You're playing the realism card too much here. You're talking about a movie universe where the Police and the Mayor of a major city look the other way to a vigilante dressed as a bat. Where a ninja organization in the Himalayas has been sorting out the justices of the world for hundreds of years.

Joker getting an insanity plea is ten times more likely than that.

Hmm.. you've given me something to think about, sir .

As for the realism card, I apologize. After hearing that word over and over and over again for seven years, it's starting to get to me .