The Dark Knight Rises The 80th TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - Part 85

[Kane52630]

This is the final cut.

This bad boy had been rated by the ratings board for a while now. Roger Nall saw the final cut.

So...3 hours long....

 

[ChrisB]

Who is this guy who claims his wife saw the movie? Dragon asked Paul Franklin about it and he said it's "unlikely"

 

[KalMart]

So what's this thing that IMAX can't play more than 3 hours shindig. I've always heard that.

I guess they have two interchangeable projectors or something?

Unlike normal 35mm projectors where you can keep switching out reels with multiple projectors primed and ready, an IMAX film projection system can take up three floors of space with the strip of film spanning long distances. The loading is a big operation unto itself unlike multiple reels/plates and it's mostly (as far as I know) one main projector. So there's generally a maximum length that the film could be and still fit into that system's setup.

 

[J.Howlett]

3 hours seems slightly indulgent but if the film needs to be 3 hours for Nolan to tell it completely to finish Bruce's story, so be it. It won't break any box office records. People will whine about the length but if this thing really lands at around three hours, then Nolan's going for broke in a big, big way....

 

[kvz5]

Who is this guy who claims his wife saw the movie? Dragon asked Paul Franklin about it and he said it's "unlikely"

Ooops.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

We'll essentially be seeing the rebirth of Wayne, Bane backstory, Selina backstory & Talia backstory. The run time is fine.

You also need to establish Bruce's crap mood before he can be reborn. Twice. t:t:

 

[craigdbfan]

Looks like Paul Franklin just shot this claim down.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Three hours? Sounds just about right to me!

 

[Kane52630]

Who is this guy who claims his wife saw the movie? Dragon asked Paul Franklin about it and he said it's "unlikely"

Well don't I look silly right about now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

3 hours seems slightly indulgent but if the film needs to be 3 hours for Nolan to tell it completely to finish Bruce's story, so be it. It won't break any box office records. People will whine about the length but if this thing really lands at around three hours, then Nolan's going for broke in a big, big way....

Early ones? No way, but hey Titanic was pretty long and it did ok.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Paul Franklin doesn't know everything about the press screenings for this film. While he is most likely correct, there still could have been a screening. Though it does seem early. Who knows?

 

[Deserana]

How the hell can a running time make a film indulgent!!??!! If the film is three hours long thats because Nolan thinks it should be three hours long to tell this story. I'd rather it be 10 minutes too long than live the theatre and say it was too rushed.

 

[TangerineKnight]

Dont you crush my dreams paul franklin!

 

[itsthebatman]

We'll essentially be seeing the rebirth of Wayne, Bane backstory, Selina backstory & Talia backstory. The run time is fine.

God I hope not. I don't want Selina's backstory in any great detail. I've liked the fully formed villains of Ra's and Joker without the need for explanation. I want this one to focus on Bruce.
Do we know what the relationship is between John Blake and Selina? He seems to have a very prominent role, judging by the trailers.

 

[Dragon_316ca]

Paul is only in charge with VFx. Nothing else. I don't think he knows what's going on outside of that.

 

[Nevincer]

WHOA.... THREE HOURS!? MY DREAM... IT'S COME TRUE!!!!!!!!!!! This is what I was pushing for! HELL YES!



I can sleep soundly at night.

 

[KalMart]

How the hell can a running time make a film indulgent!!??!! If the film is three hours long thats because Nolan thinks it should be three hours long to tell this story. I'd rather it be 10 minutes too long than live the theatre and say it was too rushed.

When it's an M Nite Shebadoo or Spike Lee movie...and it's longer than 10 minutes.

 

[Kane52630]

Paul only in charge with VFx. Nothing else. I don't think he knows what's going outside of that.

Where is Lee Smith's twitter?

 

[slimshady247]

3 hours seems slightly indulgent but if the film needs to be 3 hours for Nolan to tell it completely to finish Bruce's story, so be it. It won't break any box office records. People will whine about the length but if this thing really lands at around three hours, then Nolan's going for broke in a big, big way....

Return of the King says hi.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ooops.

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Caped Crusader]

I love how each Nolan Batman film becomes longer than the previous one.

The runtime rises!!

So...3 hours long....

3 hrs..

 

[Travesty]

Unlike normal 35mm projectors where you can keep switching out reels with multiple projectors primed and ready, an IMAX film projection system can take up three floors of space with the strip of film spanning long distances. The loading is a big operation unto itself unlike multiple reels/plates and it's mostly (as far as I know) one main projector. So there's generally a maximum length that the film could be and still fit into that system's setup.

The IMAX film is on platters. A regualr IMAX projector can go on for as long as it can, but the limitations are on the platters. As of right now, IMAX can only handle up to 2hr and 50min worth of footage. Unless they're going to be using all new platters that haven't been used before, than the only way to get to over the 2:50 mark is to use digital IMAX, which can go over the regular restrictions.

I'm still going to wait for an actual runtime before getting my hopes up. If the guy knows the actual time, then why didn't he just say it, instead of just making a vague remark?

 

[BatLobster]

Paul only in charge with VFx. Nothing else. I don't think he knows what's going outside of that.

Yep, pluys Roger Nall is legit and works in the industry. I doubt he'd be intentionally spreading a lie about TDKR on twitter.

I don't know what his wife's job is, but it's possible she saw a very exclusive super secret screening. We must keep hope alive!

 

[Anita18]

It's locked? Wow.

Not official, but Nolan always does things early, remember?

Ideally, yes you have to lock picture before sound design/mix and coloring...especially if you're working off of numerous reels. Not to say last-minute changes don't happen especially if a studio decides to 'step in', but it happens with the understanding and responsibility of a domino-effect of extra costs and overtime hours to still make a deadline.

3 hours is really long, and even TDk felt too long by a bit. But bring it on anyway...it should be fun.

Yes...but it would be counter to Nolan's MO. In 2008, by the time Wally spoke at Cine Gear Expo in mid-June, they were already midway through printing the reels. He even finished Inception like, 2 weeks early.

Leaving a 20-minute cut to the last minute would be VERY unusual.

As for the Paul Franklin shootdown....at least can we can say it won't be an hour and a half, right?

GIVE US THE RUNTIME ALREADY!

 

[ChrisB]

Paul is only in charge with VFx. Nothing else. I don't think he knows what's going on outside of that.

But didn't he just spend a bunch of time with Nolan and crew in LA? If they were showing a screening of the film today, you'd think that would have come up and he'd know about it.