The All Things Flash Thread. - Part 1

[Web-Head]

According to this article, Gal Gadot will be reprising her role as Wonder Woman in Flashpoint
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhu...400-million-domestic-box-office/#57b220b23575

But fans won't have to wait until 2019 to get more of Gal Gadot's superheroics, as Wonder Woman will return to the big screen in Justice League, hitting theaters just 15 weeks from now. Gadot is also expected to reprise her role as Wonder Woman in the upcoming production of Flashpoint, which will be Flash's solo movie but is also more of another superhero team-up featuring several additional DC superheroes. Flashpoint is currently scheduled to release in 2020. So we'll see Wonder Woman twice this year, again in 2019, and in 2020. That's an average of one appearance every year, and it means Wonder Woman could potentially appear in as many different films as Batman will over the course of the next few years in the DCEU.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

When was this being a Flashpoint adaptation announced? And did they also give it a release date?

Poss some time in 2020.

 

[DieSmiling]

The only elements I'm expecting are Flash, Reverse Flash, time travel, saving his mom and Thomas Wayne Batman.

I tend to agree with this. I doubt they're going to delve into the comic story too much. People expecting Lauren Cohan to play the Joker are kidding themselves.

 

[Greenlite]

I think they'll give AM and WW glorified cameos i.e. Black Widow in IM2, and they could use Martha to replace Alfred to help Thomas, but the focus will be with Barry and Thomas.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Of all the DC projects slated for release within the next couple of years or so, Flashpoint just might be the one with the farthest-reaching potential. If WB gets this right, it could mean everything. Consider my interest piqued to the max.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I think it is way to soon for a Flashpoint movie. Should've been a 2nd or 3rd Flash film. But I am very interested to see what they do with it.

 

[Predator jp]

i do feel it's too soon as well but i also feel Flashpoint has everything essential to understanding who Flash really is so if done right it can be a incredible "origin" story.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Having Gal in this as WW will likely be as "bookends" and makes me think that, no, they won't be doing some kind of "soft reboot" using this story. Think about it... Everyone seems to love the WW film as Gal's Diana. The WW sequel takes place after FLASHPOINT... No one wants Gal's WW to be changed.

I think this will be a time travel adventure, we'll see not just one but perhaps more a handful of "alternate" or "possible" timelines due to Barry or someone else mucking up time but then at the end the entirety of the DCEU goes back to it's current status quo. Despite what the online world puts out everyday... No, the general audience does not wake up every morning needing to **** on BvS etc. and let everyone around them know it. There's no obsession about "how WB got it wrong".

I will be really surprised if they go the route of having a deeply changed universe after FP.

PS, can a mod get to changing the title of these threads?

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

By the time we get to Flashpoint we'll have had MoS, BvS, SS, WW, JL, AM, WW2, and maybe even GCS if that's still being fast-tracked. That means FP should be the 8th or 9th movie of the DCEU. GA's will be very familiar with the core characters and WB/DC will be fully aware of what's working and what's not. If they decide anything needs tweaking in a major way, with FP they'll be in the perfect position to do it; and if nothing does, it's still a great story. They can plan and prep for FP as early as they want; the only 'as-yet-unknown' to be finalised when time gets nearer is how different (if at all) the post-FP DCEU needs to be from what went before. In an ideal world I'd have liked at least one Flash solo before Flashpoint - but tactically I think it's a smart decision.

 

[Frodo]

It depends on what WB wants to do imo. If the evil WW is one of many cameos of heroes like Batman, Superman , etc then fine.

If WB is seriously considering making her The Main Villain of Flashpoint as opposed to The Reverse Flash, then I think that's extremely foolish.

It would indicate that they are using the same logic that gave us BvS, i.e. take a popular money making hero, make them the sotto villain , and put them in another's hero film in order to boost the box office .

If WW has shown them anything, its that they need to focus on making these solo films as strong as possible and focus on one hero. This should be first and foremost a Flash film about Barry Allen and how his own choices ultimately hurt himself and everyone else.

 

[misslane38]

I definitely want this film to remain very Flash/Barry centric. It should develop his world, his powers, and his supporting cast. Iris West should be a major character, in my opinion. If similarity to Flashpoint is required, I'm okay as a Lois fan for Iris to take on the role that Lois did minus the whole dying part.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

It depends on what WB wants to do imo. If the evil WW is one of many cameos of heroes like Batman, Superman , etc then fine.

If WB is seriously considering making her The Main Villain of Flashpoint as opposed to The Reverse Flash, then I think that's extremely foolish.

It would indicate that they are using the same logic that gave us BvS, i.e. take a popular money making hero, make them the sotto villain , and put them in another's hero film in order to boost the box office .

If WW has shown them anything, its that they need to focus on making these solo films as strong as possible and focus on one hero. This should be first and foremost a Flash film about Barry Allen and how his own choices ultimately hurt himself and everyone else.

Honestly, I can't see any way they'd do that.

 

[Frodo]

Honestly, I can't see any way they'd do that.

I could given that they probably assume , as they did with Batman v Superman , that making another v film , this time with WW , would help a Flash film box office wise .

These are ultimately dollars and cents guys and they're focus is the bottom line and what they think will make them money. Its Nolan's , Jenkins's, and Reeves who focus more on the creative end and the spirit of the characters involved who really get it . Not the suits . They're gonna try to exploit WW as much as possible now that they realize that they can't only rely on Batman for big bucks.

So yeah, I could see them making that kind of miscalculation given the bad creative choices that have been made in their films minus WW.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

Given that Wonder Woman features in the original Flashpoint I'm sure she'll appear in the movie, which will help draw people in. I think that we may well get the 'bad' alternate version of her. I don't see anything to be gained by having her take the Reverse Flash-role.

 

[Greenlite]

I could given that they probably assume , as they did with Batman v Superman , that making another v film , this time with WW , would help a Flash film box office wise .

These are ultimately dollars and cents guys and they're focus is the bottom line and what they think will make them money. Its Nolan's , Jenkins's, and Reeves who focus more on the creative end and the spirit of the characters involved who really get it . Not the suits . They're gonna try to exploit WW as much as possible now that they realize that they can't only rely on Batman for big bucks.

So yeah, I could see them making that kind of miscalculation given the bad creative choices that have been made in their films minus WW.

You do realize the same the suit behind BvS and the initial DCEU stage is fired right? Greg Silverman, and Snyder is pretty much done...4 months ago.

Now the new leaders i.e. Emmerich and Johns are promoting "hope and optimism" all the time, then they give you WW as the "main villain"?

That'd be the worst F up in the history of superhero cinema

But we will see in 3 years.

 

[Greenlite]

Having Gal in this as WW will likely be as "bookends" and makes me think that, no, they won't be doing some kind of "soft reboot" using this story. Think about it... Everyone seems to love the WW film as Gal's Diana. The WW sequel takes place after FLASHPOINT... No one wants Gal's WW to be changed.

I think this will be a time travel adventure, we'll see not just one but perhaps more a handful of "alternate" or "possible" timelines due to Barry or someone else mucking up time but then at the end the entirety of the DCEU goes back to it's current status quo. Despite what the online world puts out everyday... No, the general audience does not wake up every morning needing to **** on BvS etc. and let everyone around them know it. There's no obsession about "how WB got it wrong".

I will be really surprised if they go the route of having a deeply changed universe after FP.

PS, can a mod get to changing the title of these threads?

Yes, basically post "course correction" process in 2016 they'd have had WW, JL (resurrected Superman), AM, Shazam, SS2, WW2, Batgirl, Batman before they get to FP (where from 2018 all films will be produced by Johns from development stage)

Unless DCEU is almost dead by 2020, there won't be moderate to major reboot for the universe, that'd be like "hey, let's course correct the thing then reboot it, yay"

 

[Loki882]

Honestly doing Flashpoint this early makes sense in one respect. It's a lot easier to buy a younger, less experienced Barry making such a colossal screwup than it is in the comics (where he's older, more experienced and should know better).

Also it'd be interesting to see if Gal Gadot could play a more ruthless/cold-blooded version of Wonder Woman.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Honestly, I can't see any way they'd do that.

I have no doubt that Thawne will be the villain Barry faces off against in the end, Thawne is the only character that can properly fill that role, the villain needs to be a time traveller and the conflict needs to be highly personal for both, Thawne is the only character that really does that for Barry.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

So Mark Hughes is saying that Zemeckis is WB's top choice for the director of The Flash and is most likely to land the job. His schedule will be clear after finishing an untitled Universal movie.

 

[Greenlite]

So Mark Hughes is saying that Zemeckis is WB's top choice for the director of The Flash and is most likely to land the job. His schedule will be clear after finishing an untitled Universal movie.

A few months ago the trades reported he'll finish his project at the end of 2018, so FP coming out at the end of 2020 is possible, he could be our guy.

Hughes mentioned Matt Reeves in Jan when Affleck was undecisive about directing The Batman

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

I have no doubt that Thawne will be the villain Barry faces off against in the end, Thawne is the only character that can properly fill that role, the villain needs to be a time traveller and the conflict needs to be highly personal for both, Thawne is the only character that really does that for Barry.

Agreed.

 

[Greenlite]

I just realized one element they can definitely alter post FP - bring back Jimmy Olsen =)

 

[misslane38]

I just realized one element they can definitely alter post FP - bring back Jimmy Olsen =)

You don't need an entire time travel film to bring back Jimmy Olsen. The CIA agent wasn't even named in the theatrical cut of BvS. He was also an undercover CIA agent pretending to be photographer Jimmy Olsen. His name wasn't real nor was his profession. All the DCEU needs to do to have Jimmy is to write him a part and cast him.

 

[Greenlite]

You don't need an entire time travel film to bring back Jimmy Olsen. The CIA agent wasn't even named in the theatrical cut of BvS. He was also an undercover CIA agent pretending to be photographer Jimmy Olsen. His name wasn't real nor was his profession. All the DCEU needs to do to have Jimmy is to write him a part and cast him.

He was named in the ultimate cut though, yes they could spend a few minutes in the next MOS film on why Jimmy Olsen is back and Lois looking surprised etc, or they could just cast the part and have the director say "oh, FP brought him back, that's all" in the pre-release interviews and move on.

More options for WB is all.

 

[Avenging Angel]

You don't need an entire time travel film to bring back Jimmy Olsen. The CIA agent wasn't even named in the theatrical cut of BvS. He was also an undercover CIA agent pretending to be photographer Jimmy Olsen. His name wasn't real nor was his profession. All the DCEU needs to do to have Jimmy is to write him a part and cast him.

And not kill him.