Sequels The Amazing Spider-Man Sequel Villains Thread! - Part 1

[superglowy]

One movie with GG means "done to death".

Harry on a flying snowboard doesn't count as a Green GG. He didn't even try to do a voice, and he only wore his very un-goblinlike mask for about three seconds.

One movie? What? You may not have had the physical green goblin villian, but large chunks of the trilogy and story was taken up by the 'Green Goblin' arc.

1. Actual Green Goblin villian
2. Harry's vision/decent into 'Goblin-dom'
3. Harry as a version of the Goblin.

Even if it wasn't physically on the screen, the storyline made up a large section of the trilogy and was the main story!

 

[zeptron]

One movie? What? You may not have had the physical green goblin villian, but large chunks of the trilogy and story was taken up by the 'Green Goblin' arc.

1. Actual Green Goblin villian
2. Harry's vision/decent into 'Goblin-dom'
3. Harry as a version of the Goblin.

Even if it wasn't physically on the screen, the storyline made up a large section of the trilogy and was the main story!

Even if so not having GG in a Spider-man franchise is like not having Joker or Lex Luthor in a Batman or Superman franchise. He doesn't even have to appear in the next movie. They can introduce Norman and have him work from behind the scenes.

And I would also like for Norman to be potrayed like he was in the comics and Spectacular Spider-man. A cold, calculating, ruthless businessman who rarely expresses fear. Unlike in the first movie and 90s cartoon he was more of a loving father to Harry and in the latter he whined a lot and scared pretty easily. I also want a GG that doesn't have a split personality.

 

[Anno_Domini]

The Osborn/Green Goblin stuff has been done to death in the original trilogy. It was the main story arc and I'm sick of them. I hope neither Osborns or Goblins show up in this trilogy.

Incorrect; the main story arc was pretty much about Harry Osborn if you really over-analyze it all; I doubt this series will focus so much on Harry, but bringing in Gwen Stacy and having OsCorp being such an important factor, Green Goblin needs to be used and actually done right. He was overshadowed in the origin film of the previous trilogy and that's not right for Spidey's greatest enemy.

Green Goblin DEFINITELY deserves to be used again and before Venom is even thought about.

 

[Anno_Domini]

One movie? What? You may not have had the physical green goblin villian, but large chunks of the trilogy and story was taken up by the 'Green Goblin' arc.

1. Actual Green Goblin villian
2. Harry's vision/decent into 'Goblin-dom'
3. Harry as a version of the Goblin.

Even if it wasn't physically on the screen, the storyline made up a large section of the trilogy and was the main story!

Harry was a version of the Rocket Racer and did not resemble a Goblin, and wasn't even called something of a Goblin and we only see the words 'New Goblin' on merchandise and the ending credits; doesn't justify that Harry was an actual Goblin.

 

[Jick]

One movie with GG means "done to death".

Harry on a flying snowboard doesn't count as a Green GG. He didn't even try to do a voice, and he only wore his very un-goblinlike mask for about three seconds.

I somewhat agree to this.
If they decide to do the Goblin again, I'd be interested to see their vision on the character, as I'm sure he'd be way more sinister-looking than the previous one. But if they don't, then I won't mind.

One of the fun things about this reboot is the chance of getting new villains.

 

[zeptron]

What I do hope is that they don't bring in mob type villains. While the Batman movies had them, Batman is the kind of hero that takes on gangs and organizations. Spider-man has always been more of a superhero vs supervillain type hero. The gang wars are great in the comics and cartoons, but it's not something I'd be interested in seeing in a movie.

 

[jpharrah]

id love to see doc ock make another appearance... but i have a feeling green goblin is in the sequel and it might be a bad thing using more then 1 villain from the old series into this new series..im a big fan of giving other characters a shot ...that and I felt spider-man 2 was the better of the 3 last movies.. so im content with what we got out of that doc ock story. I think vulture and electro def deserve a shot ...even if both are in the same film... and scorpion and rhino would work good together...

 

[Venom'sDad]

What I do hope is that they don't bring in mob type villains. While the Batman movies had them, Batman is the kind of hero that takes on gangs and organizations. Spider-man has always been more of a superhero vs supervillain type hero. The gang wars are great in the comics and cartoons, but it's not something I'd be interested in seeing in a movie.

Couldn't disagree more, that could somewhat be a foundation for creating motives.

 

[SpaceWay2009]

That would be like the Raimi's Spider-Man universe. We rarely see Spider-Man fight with everyday mobs, thugs, or gangs. Spider-Man's only villain was the super/main villain. Now when I watch Raimi's trilogy, I keep thinking where are the street crimes?

I would want Webb to introduce these mob type villains such as Silvermane, Hammerhead, Tombstone, and/or Enforcers. It'll definitely make the story more interesting. You can have both mob villains and super villains.

 

[Jick]

I would like to see them go in this direction for the next movie. It would be kinda like the escalation in TDK.
With Spidey's arrival, the mob gets more powerfull.

I think they can easily have Hammerhead and Tombstone. They don't really need "origin" stories. Then they can come up with someone like the Shocker.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I'd be shocked if 'Venom' isn't used in one of the sequels. He's 'The Joker' fan favourite of the Spiderman rouge gallery and the one character who got butchered the most and didn't really get delved into deeply enough. I really don't want 'The Green Goblin' or any 'Goblin' kin neither the new trilogy, its been done to death and 'Doc Ock' was done great in 'Spiderman 2!

I love Venom, and I would love to see him in this reboot, but Green Goblin should appear as well. Green Goblin is to Spider-Man as Joker is to Batman. Having a Spider-Man series without GG would feel incomplete.

 

[Venom75]

Venom and Goblin should appear,no doubt. Venom,as others have said,is the one character that most everyone loves and is Spidey's most popular villain. He is also up there with Goblin and Ock as Spidey's most dangerous foe. Plus,he was SO screwed over in part 3 and deserves a chance at redemption. Doing a series without him would be a crime. Same goes for Goblin. He is Spidey's greatest enemy. Again,it would be a crime not to include him.
I've stated this before,but I don't really need to see Ock again. I think Molina did him so well in part 2 that having him appear in the series again isn't really that important. Although,if the series goes to 5 or 6 films,I'd love to see a Sinister 6 with Ock as leader.

 

[DrDoom]

IMO, the only way they do that, they would have to film some of the movies back2back.

A movie leading up to Sinister Six would be pretty sick, if done correctly. Such a shame how Venom got butchered in SM3.

^ I agree, on both accounts. Well, not necessarily this movie; but a series of films setting up the "Six".

Itd be easy if they did my idea of opening each movie with a fight with a c-list villian that is also in the Sinister Six. Like Rhino doesnt need an origin just a quick 5-10 opening fight. The same with alot of the Six villains and then they team up for revenge on Spidey in the sixth film

 

[I'm Venom]

I'd love to see them do what they originally intended for Raimi's series: the symbiote for part 3 and then Venom for part 4. As for part 2,I'm not sure. I would actually like....

part 2: Mysterio teamed with either Electro or Scorpion;MJ and Eddie Brock are introduced
part 3: Green Goblin and death of Gwen;Spidey gets the symbiote
part 4: Venom as the major baddie,with minor villain at the beginning like Shocker

Your idea is amazing, Venom75. It also coincidentally is what I'd imagine. I have an alternative...

ASP2: Jonah hires Mac Gargan, Brock's hate builds
ASP3: Green Goblin, Spider-Man gets the symbiote, and the death of Gwen
ASP4: Venom + 1 minor villain (Shocker: like the '90s cartoon t

Would you use Jensen Ackles as your Venom?

 

[Venom'sDad]

Itd be easy if they did my idea of opening each movie with a fight with a c-list villian that is also in the Sinister Six. Like Rhino doesnt need an origin just a quick 5-10 opening fight. The same with alot of the Six villains and then they team up for revenge on Spidey in the sixth film

Not a bad idea, as far as approach is concern...that's one way of doing it. However, I personally would like to see some of the members of the "Six", like Electro, Vulture, Mysterio, for example, as a major villain, in some of the upcoming films...certainly much more than a 5-10 minute opening scene.

 

[DrDoom]

True, like I said you could do the opening fight for alot of the members. But Electro and others could hold down a whole movie. Personally I think Mysterio could be an opening fight, like he was portrayed in the Raimi movie based games. Spidey took him out quickly, he was played off as a joke.

 

[zeptron]

Mysterio has much more potential than just being just an opening villain that Spidey takes out in minutes.

And I think having the Sinister 6 would be too gimmicky. It's hard for me to believe that if any one of those guys give Spidey a hard time he can defeat all 6 of them at once. This stuff only works in animation. One hero against so many villains just seems overkill.

Not to mention it would cost way too much money to do the special effects of each villain.

 

[Venom'sDad]

And I think having the Sinister 6 would be too gimmicky. It's hard for me to believe that if any one of those guys give Spidey a hard time he can defeat all 6 of them at once. This stuff only works in animation. One hero against so many villains just seems overkill.

Not to mention it would cost way too much money to do the special effects of each villain.

This is where I have to disagree. You have to change the dynamic of the situation. If you follow the same conventional format we see in the comics and cartoon; than yes, I agree, it could very well become gimmicky.

However, I do see an opportunity for the "Six"; I just wish the writers would think outside the box in some areas, and not follow the same conventional thinking. Because yes, that only works in the comics or animation. The "Six" needs forward thinking; but, the dynamics of Spidey's situation has to change between his first encounter with individual members and when he face them as a team. Keep in mind, I'm saying this, "IF" the plan to set up some of the members in upcoming films.

 

[Rylvan]

Electro would be pretty cool. And I wouldn't mind a little more Ock.

 

[DrDoom]

I dont how they would redesign ock, his appearance in part 2 was a GREAT translation

 

[Rylvan]

I know, Molina would be hard act to follow, but Ock was just so great the first time around it leaves me wanting even more.

 

[TheWatcher]

The Green Goblin should definitely be the villain for the sequel. He's the Jokers to Spidey's Batman. He should exist as the Goblin to begin the movie, with Peter trying to find out his identity the entire time. Harry and Eddie Brock should be there as well,with Venom in the 3rd.

 

[zeptron]

I don't think GG should even appear in the second movie. Norman Osborn can appear though and work from behind the scenes setting up GG for the third.

 

[Venom'sDad]

^ I agree; and I'll go one step further.....GG is actively there; yet, neither Spidey, nor the GA, knows that GG exist. GG is working behind the scenes as well as Norman; but, it is not so obvious as Norman, that GG is in the film.....the film main antagonist(which should be Vulture imo and Chameleon) get blamed for SOME of the GG crimes; on top of the main villain's own crimes. Like a mystery thriller keeping the GA captivated.

 

[TheWatcher]

I like that idea as well. I just love the idea of Venom in the third movie too much not to set him up in the second.