Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - - - Part 49

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Joeyjojo72 said:
All the reviews Ive read so far have been raves. Not sure what everyone is freaking out about. Even the ones with nitpicks ultimately enjoyed the hell out of the movie. Now, I avoid places like IMDB like the plague, so I cant speak to random anonymous posts. They may or may not have seen the movie, but I havent read them.

As far as the complaints about yet another huge, climactic battle against an army: The moment Ultron was announced as the villain, it was a given. If its well done, with interesting elements, not a problem.
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My thoughts exactly. I'm glad to see someone thinking clearly. lol. From almost every reaction I've seen, this is a huge fun movie that does not disappoint.
 
The bad isnt very bad if youre really looking for complaints about the quality. Even the negative comments Ive heard about the movie claim "Its still a fun time". Its Joss, he cant not be fun when it comes to these characters.
 
lol There was no giant structure floating in the air in the Avengers. Unless you count the portal, which isn't the same thing as an entire city.
 
What kind of Nazi critic dislikes Steve Rogers? That guy rules
 
now we get character featurettes:

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the interviews are dubbed, but SW finally speaks
 
It seems those will be their dubbing voices, this is a bit disappointing for me. At least it doesn't sound as bad as the GotG one did.
So far it seems that Scarlett Witch is a high point of the film which is great, her fans deserve something good after the HoM mess.
 
SuperBeetle said:
It seems those will be their dubbing voices, this is a bit disappointing for me. At least it doesn't sound as bad as the GotG one did.
So far it seems that Scarlett Witch is a high point of the film which is great, her fans deserve something good after the HoM mess.
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MCU is completely separate from the comics. There is no such thing as HOM in the MCU, and we get a SW that has a clean slate with no prior history. Btw, I'm glad to see Olsen speak as Wanda in the featurette, and she has an interesting accent. I don't really care if it is Eastern European accent or not, though; I think it's more important to get the performance right.
 
Raiden said:
MCU is completely separate from the comics. There is no such thing as HOM in the MCU, and we get a SW that has a clean slate with no prior history. Btw, I'm glad to see Olsen speak as Wanda in the featurette, and she has an interesting accent. I don't really care if it is Eastern European accent or not, though; I think it's more important to get the performance right.
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That's why I said it was good, some friends of mine were scared about Whedon making her insane like in that story so its nice to see that it doesn't seem to be the case.
Not sure if the second part was directed to me, just in case :p. I like her accent, I'm not sure about the latin spanish dubbing voices which did a disservice to GotG, especially Ronan who had me rolling.
 
SuperBeetle said:
. I like her accent, I'm not sure about the latin spanish dubbing voices which did a disservice to GotG, especially Ronan who had me rolling.
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Well, untill you hear them you still got hope. :)
 
You know, I don't get the whole"this movie needs to raise the stakes" criticism when "the stakes" simply refers to "how many people/planets/universes can we endanger?" It's personal preference of course but one of my favorite movies (Pan's Labyrinth) basically has the stakes of "is this little girl going to get to be a fairy princess?" while my favorite TV show (Firefly) tends to have the stakes "Well we better figure out how to afford groceries and pay the gas bill." It's movie Serenity had far "bigger" stakes in terms of the whole 'verse being endangered, but it's not any stronger for it.

I just don't think you have to destroy the universe to have high stakes, you just need to feel for whatever the characters' want. If all they want is to be a princess or buy some food and they can make that a compelling reason for the journey than that is all you need.

Also, I've read a couple of reviews that state Wanda's character has more depth than Pietro (expected) and that Pietro doesn't live up to DotP's Quicksilver. I wonder if they mean that he doesn't have a cool showy fight scene that is memorable the same way, or if his character is actually weaker in terms of personality and story. Because the first doesn't matter to me at all, while the latter would be super disappointing to me considering how much I was looking forward to the twins.
 
gildedmuse said:
You know, I don't get the whole"this movie needs to raise the stakes" criticism when "the stakes" simply refers to "how many people/planets/universes can we endanger?" It's personal preference of course but one of my favorite movies (Pan's Labyrinth) basically has the stakes of "is this little girl going to get to be a fairy princess?" while my favorite TV show (Firefly) tends to have the stakes "Well we better figure out how to afford groceries and pay the gas bill." It's movie Serenity had far "bigger" stakes in terms of the whole 'verse being endangered, but it's not any stronger for it.

I just don't think you have to destroy the universe to have high stakes, you just need to feel for whatever the characters' want. If all they want is to be a princess or buy some food and they can make that a compelling reason for the journey than that is all you need.

Also, I've read a couple of reviews that state Wanda's character has more depth than Pietro (expected) and that Pietro doesn't live up to DotP's Quicksilver. I wonder if they mean that he doesn't have a cool showy fight scene that is memorable the same way, or if his character is actually weaker in terms of personality and story. Because the first doesn't matter to me at all, while the latter would be super disappointing to me considering how much I was looking forward to the twins.
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Well, you have to consider the fact that several of the Avengers have their own solo movies, so if you make a movie where they come together the stakes will naturally have to increase, otherwise what's the justification of forming a team in the first place? And using Pan's Labyrinth as a comparison with the Avengers is like apples and oranges; these two movies couldn't be more different.
 
I dunno, the extinction of all humanity seems like pretty high stakes to me. But what do I know.
 
Is it close enough to throw up a rate it thread as well as a thread for us to review it yet? I just want to make sure we do no discussion for the rate it thread so it doesn't get closed as soon as the movie drops and then nobody can vote on it
 
Raiden said:
Well, you have to consider the fact that several of the Avengers have their own solo movies, so if you make a movie where they come together the stakes will naturally have to increase, otherwise what's the justification of forming a team in the first place? And using Pan's Labyrinth as a comparison with the Avengers is like apples and oranges; these two movies couldn't be more different.
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It was just the first movie to come to mind and after it came to mind I literally couldn't think of another title. I mean obviously they're incredible different, but my point wasn't really to compare them. It was just that "higher" stakes doesn't equal caring about the characters, and I think that is what makes for a good movie.

Okay, so Iron Man's "Demon In A Bottle" story gets a lot of love, but the stakes there are much more personal and smaller than plenty of less well remember Iron Man storylines. Just telling me, "oh, we have to stop this guy from DESTROYING THE UNIVERSE" doesn't automatically draw me in or make for a stronger story.
 
French embargo ends the 18, and its already 2:00 am of the 18. Reviews are popping. For those who are interested and speak french.
 
Raising the stakes: I guess destroying humanity on Earth aint enough for some people. Thats another BS complaint.
 
Few sites had reviews, but they removed them due to embargo. I remember that Irish Examiner gave the movie 4/5 stars.
 
I think most of them were Irish, if memory serves. Three or four, not that many.
 
Some french reviews
http://lestoilesheroiques.fr/2015/04/avengers-lere-dultron-la-critique-du-film-votre-avis.html
http://www.goldengeek.net/critique-avengers-age-of-ultron/
http://retro-hd.com/critiques/cinema/871-avengers-l-ere-d-ultron.html
They say is different than Avengers, not better not worse. It has a lot going but Whedon pull its through (one even called it a miracle). It seems the cinematography and action its better because they both get some thumbs up. The Black Widow/Hulk romance is polarizing, some liked some didn't. Also, Vision is love Vision is life.
The first two didn't have the useful star rating but really liked it, the third gave the movie a 5/6.
Now a bad one
http://www.avoir-alire.com/avengers-l-ere-d-ultron-la-critique-du-film
Says that Whedon tried to cater to the fans more than he tried so surprise us. The movie is too long and had some scenes that added nothing and killed the flow. He didn't like Ultron. The movies has some nice moments and jokes but they aren't enough. It ends saying that its fun to see but nothing more.
The reviewer gives the movie a 2/4, same rating he/she gave to the Avengers.
 
I really want to hear from the geeks like us. Not the snobby critics.
 
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