Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Upgrade section 5

[mocomic]

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Ultron synthesized Adamantium with something in his body almost like a Star Trek replicator . Wakanda is not necessary for Vibranium . If the arc reactor element is Vibranium then Jarvis knows the formula. If they analyze Cap's shield in TWS soldier then it's formula is in the computers. Giving Ultron a level of invulnerability as he evolves is not hard. A semi invulnerable foe who can't be destroyed . That is Ultron .


All this banter back and forth, builds the fun.
Also builds the anticipation.

Also, I think the Vin Diesel stuff is to build short term anticipation. I think he is a few years yet.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Wanda will be able to defeat Ultron through her ability to mess with probability and reality.

 

[Loki882]

I think that Wanda and Natasha will be the keys to defeating Ultron, just by what Whedon has said.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

TheHeatKitchen, So the two classical Avengers who are just introduced in THIS movie, and the original movie Avenger who's gotten the least amount of screentime and development should be the ones to die, yeah no?

It's either that or, if the rumors are true, we end up with about 12 Avengers in future movies, which I think is absurd.

It's just my personal preference. I would be perfectly content seeing those three die in battle. I might be alone, but it's just how I feel.

 

[Xeno]

It's either that or, if the rumors are true, we end up with about 12 Avengers in future movies, which I think is absurd.

It's just my personal preference. I would be perfectly content seeing those three die in battle. I might be alone, but it's just how I feel.

How about people just quit the team as time goes by, the way they do in the comics? The most powerful and popular Avengers have taken long leaves of absence over the years as the roster continually gets shaken up and reconfigured. All of the founders left the team by issue #16 of the original run and were replaced -- by Hawkeye, Wanda & Pietro, not so coincidentally. The very same thing could happen in the film universe as the Big Three reach the ends of their trilogies and new actors are (presumably) brought in as recasts. Thor, Captain America and Iron Man can leave for new adventures in their own series and be replaced by new heroes from the team's deep bench.


The mass slaughter of superheroes that some fans seem to want just isn't necessary.

 

[Mightyally]

Also
Ultron synthesized Adamantium with something in his body almost like a Star Trek replicator . Wakanda is not necessary for Vibranium . If the arc reactor element is Vibranium then Jarvis knows the formula. If they analyze Cap's shield in TWS soldier then it's formula is in the computers. Giving Ultron a level of invulnerability as he evolves is not hard. A semi invulnerable foe who can't be destroyed . That is Ultron .


All this banter back and forth, builds the fun.
Also builds the anticipation.

Also, I think the Vin Diesel stuff is to build short term anticipation. I think he is a few years yet.

I never thought about the new element Stark creates. Vibranium is known to store energy in it´s moleculay bindings or something. That´s why it´s so resistant? So maybe that´s why they can store so much energy in something with such a small volume in Tony´s suit. Jarvis know what it is and he will probably be affected by Ultron so he could get the knowledge there.

 

[Lord]

I don't even think we have enough heroes to start killing them off. then again it seems that in the MCU there exist more Heroes alive than villains.

 

[Wine-N-Cheese]

Rumor confirmed? Or just negotiations to find RDJ's eventual replacement?

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Hmmm...interesting choice by Marvel, but he looks like he's all business. I'd have gone for someone that looks more like he'd have a bottle of whiskey on his dresser:

Spoiler

 

[SpideyFan866]

I'm been thinking alot about what Whedon said about "Age of Ultron" being Ultron's origin story, and I think that, in A:AOU, we're going to be seeing Ultron 1; the earliest version of Ultron. And it won't be until later on (perhaps after Hank Pym has gotten his hands on Ultron) that he becomes the fully realized threat we know from the comics.

I actually think that we'll see him assemble the Masters of Evil and utilize JARVIS (as he did both in his first comics appearance, though, differently for the film), and only become a physical threat himself later on. Perhaps not even in this film. In A:AOU, he'll be more of a psychological threat.

And yes, Tony Stark will be the creator of Ultron's technology, but I wouldn't doubt that Ultron's turn is influenced by Alexander Pierce (or someone else), and not caused by Ultron becoming sentient as he does in the comic. Basically, in AOU, someone makes him evil. Later on, he chooses to be evil. If that makes sense.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

How about people just quit the team as time goes by, the way they do in the comics? The most powerful and popular Avengers have taken long leaves of absence over the years as the roster continually gets shaken up and reconfigured. All of the founders left the team by issue #16 of the original run and were replaced -- by Hawkeye, Wanda & Pietro, not so coincidentally. The very same thing could happen in the film universe as the Big Three reach the ends of their trilogies and new actors are (presumably) brought in as recasts. Thor, Captain America and Iron Man can leave for new adventures in their own series and be replaced by new heroes from the team's deep bench.


The mass slaughter of superheroes that some fans seem to want just isn't necessary.

I could see that as well. Have a few of them quit. Have Tony stop being Iron Man. Have Natasha quit to pursue a relationship with Bucky. Have Barton quit to go continue the Bourne series. Whatever it may be, I just think it would get too complicated to have 10+ heroes in one film. Unless the film is 8 hours long. Which I wouldnt complain about.

 

[SilentWarriorZ]

Damn I hate the idea someone has to die in avengers movie just like Coulson .

 

[steintym]

No need to kill anyone off. The Avengers roster is always in constant rotation.

 

[StreetWarrior]

I can't believe people want to keep the roster so small. The concept of a team is what the Avengers is all about. Traditionally, the Avengers has almost always had at least seven members with sometimes as many as 12-15 if the need was there. I don't see why having such a large roster would be impossible. Difficult? Sure. Impossible? No. Some of the members may have to exist as large cameos but why not? Variety is the spice of life. t:

My dream roster would have 7-9 characters. The threats that require such an assemblage of heroes are probably big enough to neccessitate more than six Avengers. As long as the adaptations are fairly faithful, the more the better!

 

[Crimson King]

I'm been thinking alot about what Whedon said about "Age of Ultron" being Ultron's origin story, and I think that, in A:AOU, we're going to be seeing Ultron 1; the earliest version of Ultron. And it won't be until later on (perhaps after Hank Pym has gotten his hands on Ultron) that he becomes the fully realized threat we know from the comics.

I actually think that we'll see him assemble the Masters of Evil and utilize JARVIS (as he did both in his first comics appearance, though, differently for the film), and only become a physical threat himself later on. Perhaps not even in this film. In A:AOU, he'll be more of a psychological threat.

And yes, Tony Stark will be the creator of Ultron's technology, but I wouldn't doubt that Ultron's turn is influenced by Alexander Pierce (or someone else), and not caused by Ultron becoming sentient as he does in the comic. Basically, in AOU, someone makes him evil. Later on, he chooses to be evil. If that makes sense.

I don't see this happening, just based on comments from Feige and Whedon. I don't mean this to be snarky or cruel, but it sounds like you're still holding onto hope that Pym's Ultron story will be kept intact. We'll see multiple forms of Ultron over the course of the movie, but I'm pretty sure he'll be a physical threat early on, even if they do go the mini-MoE route. There's better than even odds that SHIELD or Stark is taking over the typical Pym role in Ultron's creation.

 

[Loki882]

So the one female hero in the MCU leaves and gets replaced by the only other female hero in the MCU. That is not progress since you still only have one female Avenger, you've just swapped out who it is. Have BW and SW BOTH on the team. Besides, if they fight Thanos in Avengers 3, they'll need all the help that they can get (WM and Falcon may have to show up and help, maybe the GOTG). Thanos is that dangerous.

 

[Aztec]

I'm been thinking alot about what Whedon said about "Age of Ultron" being Ultron's origin story, and I think that, in A:AOU, we're going to be seeing Ultron 1; the earliest version of Ultron. And it won't be until later on (perhaps after Hank Pym has gotten his hands on Ultron) that he becomes the fully realized threat we know from the comics.

I actually think that we'll see him assemble the Masters of Evil and utilize JARVIS (as he did both in his first comics appearance, though, differently for the film), and only become a physical threat himself later on. Perhaps not even in this film. In A:AOU, he'll be more of a psychological threat.

Not a chance. The Avengers films are the "event" films. There's no way they'd leave the "real action" for a movie like Ant-Man over Avengers. Pym is not involved, you'll have to learn to accept that.

 

[steintym]

I'd love the original origin for Ultron as much as anyone, but its not happening. I just hope it's done well.

 

[Crimson King]

Bleeding Cool just reported that the SHIELD show is going to use the term "unregistered gifteds" to describe superpowered people they're looking for. Is this our replacement term for "mutants?"

 

[Iceman]

I can't believe people want to keep the roster so small. The concept of a team is what the Avengers is all about. Traditionally, the Avengers has almost always had at least seven members with sometimes as many as 12-15 if the need was there. I don't see why having such a large roster would be impossible. Difficult? Sure. Impossible? No. Some of the members may have to exist as large cameos but why not? Variety is the spice of life. t:

My dream roster would have 7-9 characters. The threats that require such an assemblage of heroes are probably big enough to neccessitate more than six Avengers. As long as the adaptations are fairly faithful, the more the better!

Yeah, just because a character is a named Avenger doesn't mean that the film goes out the window if they don't receive a 30% share of screen time & development. Most films have multiple lesser roles that are there to support, with only a few starring roles. Here the likes of Cap & Iron Man will star but other fringe heroes can come in and enrich the experience and don't necessarily all need to be 100% developed. Large cameos as you say.

 

[spideymouse]

Bleeding Cool just reported that the SHIELD show is going to use the term "unregistered gifteds" to describe superpowered people they're looking for. Is this our replacement term for "mutants?"

The way I see it, it's more like "metahumans"/"supers."

 

[jaqua99]

So about that big news Vin Diesel spoke of, lol nothing

 

[steintym]

Bleeding Cool just reported that the SHIELD show is going to use the term "unregistered gifteds" to describe superpowered people they're looking for. Is this our replacement term for "mutants?"

I don't think it will be limited to mutants, although they would be covered under that term. It seems that the term will literally refer to any super powered individual not "associated" with SHIELD.

 

[marcvader]

Yeah the registered gifted labeling was reported last week. It'll be a tidy way to differentiate from mutant and I like it.

 

[Just_Human]

Don't project your follies onto others now. It reflects badly on you.

no just you

 

[Whiskey Tango]

no just you

Knock it off plz