The Avengers The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

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Isn't it close to making back its budget already before it even premieres here in the US?
 
If the Avengers open with 200mil then The Dark Knight Rises will have a 250mil opening weekend.
 
If the Avengers open with 200mil then The Dark Knight Rises will have a 250mil opening weekend.

I wouldn't mind this scenario for either. I think it'll be extremely hard though, even with inflated prices and 3D ticket sales for any movie to reach a $200 mil OW.
 
Really, you've never heard of 3am showings? TDK had 3am and 6am showings for its record-breaking midnight screenings back in 2008. :oldrazz: 14 out of 16 screens at my local theater were devoted to it.

I'm absolutely sure Harry Potter had them too, to post that monstrous midnight record. There just isn't enough screens otherwise. Although, it's unclear whether the 3am and 6am showings are counted in "midnight."


Many people think a higher frame rate would make it look more like TV than cinema. The "soap-opera look," it's called. Film cinema has always been 24fps, so people are used to 24fps looking cinematic and having that sheen of unreality. For some, a higher frame rate is a little too real, and looks like TV and shot on a closed set. TV usually uses 30fps, IIRC.


Yeah there is something to be said for that. One of the complaints of LCD TV's when they first came out was the slow refresh rate and the "ghosting" effect that you didn't get with plasma. Plasma I think runs at 600hz refresh opposed to default LCD 60hz, but one of the things I notice with alot of high end plasma is the motion does not look cinematic.

The 30fps actually came from recording video to tape. On old TV when it was done on film it was still 24fps, and some TV shows were shot on film and not video. A good example of this is the first two seasons of Newhart (Bob Newhart's 2nd TV show) were shot on video, and in the 3rd season they switched to film, and there is a noticable difference.

When digital formats came out there were initially made for News broadcasts for ease of archiving. Like I say when Lucas wanted to film Attack of the Clones in digital it was a huge controversy because most film makers had a negative view of digital film format because it was born out of a replacement for video tape, not film cameras.

a 48fps digital camera can operate in 24fps mode. This makes it ideal for cinema use. Conversely for those who like film cameras (and a lot of directors still prefer this), can easily be converted to run on a digital projector (which most movie theaters have converted to).
 
I wouldn't mind this scenario for either. I think it'll be extremely hard though, even with inflated prices and 3D ticket sales for any movie to reach a $200 mil OW.
I just flat do not see 200mil happening this year because TDKR's isn't in 3D. If it had 3D tickets I think that it would have a shot. The Avengers is going to open huge but I don't see it beating Potter.
 
I mean what if *gasp* people want to see the avengers just as much as tdkr. Is it so hard to believe that?
 
I think TDKR is going to be a good movie and a good conclusion for the trilogy, however I think people are putting way to high of expectations on it based on TDK. I think it will open big, but not as big as TDK.
 
I agree, but this forum is about the avengers. So lets keep it on topic. :)
 
Umm.. why? Is there a rule somewhere that tdkr has to have a much bigger opening?
Well yeah because it's a sequel to a beloved film that opened with 158mil and it's the last in this so-called trilogy. I expect it to get the opening weekend record and still make less than TDK overall because it doesn't have the Joker in it or free pub from a dead actor.

I see The Avengers opening with 150mil. Might get a little more or a little less. It's opening day should be huge.
 
hmmm is 200 mil a real possibiltiy with the 3d and IMAX ticket prices ( which wont affect me. I have plenty of free movie passes!:yay:) or will it be more line 170 million?
 
Well TDKR doesn't have that morbid curiosity factor going for it the way it was a factor for TDK. Rises looks set to be an awesome film buy I'll be super impressed if it decimates at the BO.
 
Well yeah because it's a sequel to a beloved film that opened with 158mil and it's the last in this so-called trilogy. I expect it to get the opening weekend record and still make less than TDK overall because it doesn't have the Joker in it or free pub from a dead actor.

I see The Avengers opening with 150mil. Might get a little more or a little less. It's opening day should be huge.
Yup. None of the Marvel movies opened nearly that high, and Avengers is basically a sequel to any/all of them. The goodwill from the previous movies factors into the OW of the upcoming movie.

Of course it doesn't make it impossible, just (highly) unlikely.
 
Yup. None of the Marvel movies opened nearly that high, and Avengers is basically a sequel to any/all of them. The goodwill from the previous movies factors into the OW of the upcoming movie.

Of course it doesn't make it impossible, just (highly) unlikely.

you can't make predictions based on previous franchise movie opens, other wise there's no way TDK ever should have made as much as it did.

I don't know if it's going to get the record or not, but I do know that dailymotion reported that Avengers was tracking better than TDKR. Now it doesn't mean a whole lot because TDKR is still a few months out.

Also keep in mind Avengers is having a much larger pre-release than Hunger games did, and what TDKR has currently planned.

Potter has the record, so I don't know if it will beat that, but I can see it beating Hunger Games and TDK.
 
Yup. None of the Marvel movies opened nearly that high, and Avengers is basically a sequel to any/all of them. The goodwill from the previous movies factors into the OW of the upcoming movie.

Of course it doesn't make it impossible, just (highly) unlikely.
Yeah, TDK is a sequel to BB and it did x2.6 the box office. TDK was uncharted territory for Batman's BO for a number of reasons but Avengers is also for Marvel. It's obvious that the team pic is a superior box office product to the solo Marvel movies as evidenced by the international receipts so far.
 
It's really fun watching people's inner nolanite come out as they feel threatened by THE AVENGERS potential success.
 
Yup. None of the Marvel movies opened nearly that high, and Avengers is basically a sequel to any/all of them. The goodwill from the previous movies factors into the OW of the upcoming movie.

Of course it doesn't make it impossible, just (highly) unlikely.
It will be much bigger than any of the previous Marvel movies
 
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