The Flash The Barry Allen/The Flash Thread - Part 3

[Sterling Archer]

But the pictures are related. I just post those because they have things that people complained about for years but are suddenly praising now because they're on a "new" suit. 8 months ago there's not a person on any board who'd have defended any aspect the JLA TV pilot suit took liberties with from the comics but now that the new TV show suit does the same crap everyone's not only defending that but also the JLA tv show suit! Bizarro world I tell ya.

So I guess these suits are the same quality then because they use similar design elements.

Yep, no difference in quality there.

 

[Travesty]

I love love love the new Spidey suit.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Rolling with change is promoting destruction?

By that definition, I am promoting the destruction of my beloved Superman by supporting the MOS suit.

No, supporting certain changes. Not any or all changes. Some changes are good and healthy, other inferior changes such as inferior designs that are not improvements to what already is or at least something of at least equal coolness is not acceptable and therefore detrimental.

 

[DrCosmic]

Speaking of common sense, although the suit looks cool, the cowl doesn't conceal his identity the way it should, the face is too exposed. The police, the government... could easily uncover his identity with today's technology, is just dumb to pretend otherwise. That's why certain aspects from the comics need to be changed, to make sense in our world. The fanboy mentality of wanting everything to be like the comics is just shallow, you don't need yellow boots to call more attention to yourself and look even sillier.

It's not about looking silly for me it's about... does this help the story or is it just fanservice. If it's just fanservice is it the best thing to do for the story? If not... let's go for making the story the best it can be and not doing stuff that only works for people who don't care about anything but homaging old comics.

With the chin strap, his identity is about as suspect as Ollie's. I swear it made no sense sometimes when he was talking to Lance. If they do some vibration stuff, I think it'll be alright.

 

[Lord Valumart]

no, supporting certain changes. Not any or all changes. Some changes are good and healthy, other inferior changes such as inferior designs that are not improvements to what already is or at least something of equal coolness is not acceptable and therefore detrimental.

All of this is opinion!

 

[MrsKent26]

The ones I posted were examples of ones that look just like the new TV show suit (thank you for proving my point) that I vehemently disliked.

The ear pieces I prefer that are correct are the ones as illustrated by Ethan Van Sciver:

He's taken what's been drawn in the comics and sometimes cartoony looking and made it look "believable" and sharp and tangible and perfect for live action. They're the comics look in their ultimate, finest form.

And that doesn't look much different than the costume for this show, either.

 

[DrCosmic]

No, supporting certain changes. Not any or all changes. Some changes are good and healthy, other inferior changes such as inferior designs that are not improvements to what already is or at least something of at least equal coolness is not acceptable and therefore detrimental.

The changes specified by you, detrimental to your goals. Anyone who disagrees with it is an enemy of the Flash! Stone the unbeliever!

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I know a ton of hardcore Bat fans that love the suits in the Nolan movies.

I don't think it makes them any less of Batman fans.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

No, supporting certain changes. Not any or all changes. Some changes are good and healthy, other inferior changes such as inferior designs that are not improvements to what already is or at least something of equal coolness is not acceptable and therefore detrimental.

The problem is you put yourself up on a pedestal and try to shove your opinion on what's inferior down our throats on something that's as subjective as costume design. You think just because you feel strongly about something that it makes it a fact, it's not, never has been, and never will be. All it is is arrogance. But you'll never understand this, because you've placed yourself so high up that you can't even see that you're opinion isn't any more valid than ours.

 

[Paradox1]

I love love love the new Spidey suit.

I just don't care for Spider-Man suit in general unless it's that black alien costume from secret wars.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

The changes specified by you, detrimental to your goals. Anyone who disagrees with it is an enemy of the Flash! Stone the unbeliever!

If you love the new suit then you don't accept the love our lord and savior the flash into your life and you're gonna burn in hell for it

 

[Sterling Archer]

It's not about looking silly for me it's about... does this help the story or is it just fanservice. If it's just fanservice is it the best thing to do for the story? If not... let's go for making the story the best it can be and not doing stuff that only works for people who don't care about anything but homaging old comics.

With the chin strap, his identity is about as suspect as Ollie's. I swear it made no sense sometimes when he was talking to Lance. If they do some vibration stuff, I think it'll be alright.

Yeah, the cowl keeping Barry's identity a secret is a lot easier to stomach when you consider he will probably be moving too fast for people to see him properly. Whereas with Ollie it's unbelievable sometimes how people don't see it.

 

[Mad Love]

Yeah, the cowl keeping Barry's identity a secret is a lot easier to stomach when you consider he will probably be moving too fast for people to see him properly. Whereas with Ollie it's unbelievable sometimes how people don't see it.

Also, Barry isn't a public figure like Oliver. I wouldn't be surprised if his co-workers don't even know what he looks like because he's probably mostly in his lab.

 

[Paradox1]

If you love the new suit then you don't accept the love our lord and savior the flash into your life and you're gonna burn in hell for it

Lmao your on fire tonight

 

[MrsKent26]

No, supporting certain changes. Not any or all changes. Some changes are good and healthy, other inferior changes such as inferior designs that are not improvements to what already is or at least something of at least equal coolness is not acceptable and therefore detrimental.

Who gets to decide what changes are detrimental or not?

 

[Micromind]

The Flash suit is good for a CW budget series, my only complaint is that it should have avoided leather parts, it should have used fabric material completely.


For a movie costume, I want a much better looking , more faithful to comics version of costume.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Lmao your on fire tonight

This thread makes it reeeaallly easy to look clever.

 

[Mr. Dent]

Feige is laughing his ass off right now.

What does Feige have to do with TV?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

It's just such bad form to call someone less of a fan, and comes off a bit... unhinged to say the least, when someone says that because another fan enjoys some new aspect of something or the like that they are taking an active part in "destroying" that which they love. That's coming from a place of arrogance with just a whiff of, well... I won't say more cuz I don't want to get banned.

 

[Mad Love]

Leather is a budget thing probably. It's more durable so less frequent repairs.

 

[Micromind]

Feige is laughing his ass off right now.

He won't be laughing after he sees what Jeph Loeb has done to Marvel TV characters.

 

[Kevin Smith]

So I guess these suits are the same quality then because they use similar design elements.

Yep, no difference in quality there.

The new Spidey suit is perfect. This is the same point I made earlier when I was told that the comic book look would never work in live action and that because the 90s TV show suit was the closest anyone ever came and that because a suit that was built over 20 years ago doesn't hold up today there's no way the comic book look would ever work in live action. According to this poster the comic book look could not be assembled out of contemporary cool materials but just instead only be made out of materials that are obviously outdated.

The thing is the JLA TV pilot suit was NEVER the comic book suit - look how horrendous it is. It looks like fast food mascot, the logo is off, the lightning trim is all wrong, there's a huge slab of plastic going across the front of his face. The old Spider-Man TV suits were at least Spidey in terms of overall design, they were just made out of crappy materials/ poorly executed. Now we have the same design but made out of cool materials and very well executed.

But for Flash we have a bad design, one that's very inferior to what's in the comics, made out of good materials and well executed. Bad design + big budget. Still inferior to what's in the comics and crap, and unnecessary especially when you could just take what's in the comics and do what's TASM2 equivalent to it (right logo with white behind the three pronged, symmetrical lightning bolt, the gold lightning trim around the gloves/waist/" belt" area, the right stylish ear pieces, the right color scheme, and yes, even the gold boots can be made to look cool, but in the off chance the studio doesn't have the balls to try and make them work, they can just add gold lightning trim to the top of his boots and make them red, similar to how his gloves are in the comics, and call it a day). But instead we get DareDevil zipper coat, the wrong logo, ear pieces that look like his chest symbol just half assedly tacked on to the sides of his head (yeah that's creative), a nice, BIGASS belt buckle, and three different shades of red and business all over it.

Lucky us. The Flash has been CW'd.

Buuuut there is hope as the suit MIGHT change and progress into a look that's closer to the real suit as the show goes on which is what I will hope for at this point.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Who gets to decide what changes are detrimental or not?

Kevin Smith of course. He's an agent of the ministry of flash. It's a sublet of the ministry of love, takes care of all flash related thoughtcrimes.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I think the 90s Flash body suit with way toned down musculature + the new cowl would've been a way better suit

 

[Mad Love]

The new Spidey suit is perfect.

But it has textures and the emblem isn't like the comics and you can't see his muscles.