BvS The Batsuit Thread - Part 17

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Sons of Batman was so bad... Such a disappointment.

Was it? That's too bad.

 

[jaymes_e06]

What's up with the lady pout?

 

[Fallen Angel]

Was it? That's too bad.

It was bad one of the worst DC animated movies in my opinion. Had a few decent parts though to be fair,.

 

[roach]

You say that about every character that is added and even many that are rumored to be added. At a certain point, adding more and more characters does take focus away from Superman and batman.

How many named from-the-comic-characters were there in Cap 2?
Cap-BW-Falcon-Fury-Hill-Batroc-Crossbones-

Spoiler

Zola

-Sitwell-Agent 13-Peggy-and The Winter Soldier....(11) and that's not even counting people not from the comics that were in this movie...nor the three in the end credits.
and yet
Captain America: Winter Soldier was still focused on Captain America.

adding more named characters doesn't mean they will take focus from Batman and Superman. Movies have more than one character in them.

 

[MrsKent26]

^ You have a point, but all those characters weren't introduced in Cap 2 and TWS is used as one of the villains of the story. He's not another hero to distract people.

 

[roach]

^ You have a point, but all those characters weren't introduced in Cap 2 and TWS is used as one of the villains of the story. He's not another hero to distract people.

Does it matter? The problem is people's perceptions. This movie has Superman, Batman, WW, Cyborg...maybe Aquaman and Lex. If from day one Snyder announced this movie as Justice League would anyone be complaining that there's too many characters?

 

[MrsKent26]

Does it matter? The problem is people's perceptions. This movie has Superman, Batman, WW, Cyborg...maybe Aquaman and Lex. If from day one Snyder announced this movie as Justice League would anyone be complaining that there's too many characters?

No, but I would be sad that I didn't get my supes sequel or even a Superman/batman movie all the same. I simply don't want JL yet. I wasn't done watching Superman's journey.

It's not the amount of characters, but rather that we'll be getting these little introductions to other characters in the place of more characterization for the main characters I wanted to see like Superman, Lois, Lex and batman.

JL and character intros are simply not as interesting to me as an in-depth character study of superman and his mythos.

 

[regwec]

I agree with MK, but I would rather have all the intros taken care of in one hit, rather than have innumerable, hollow, "set up" movies.

 

[hafizbat]

How many named from-the-comic-characters were there in Cap 2?
Cap-BW-Falcon-Fury-Hill-Batroc-Crossbones-

Spoiler

Zola

-Sitwell-Agent 13-Peggy-and The Winter Soldier....(11) and that's not even counting people not from the comics that were in this movie...nor the three in the end credits.
and yet
Captain America: Winter Soldier was still focused on Captain America.

adding more named characters doesn't mean they will take focus from Batman and Superman. Movies have more than one character in them.

Not a single one of those characters is a heavyweight. Hell, Cap himself was considered a B-lister until now, so those characters are all C-list.

Fury, BW, Peggy, [BLACKOUT]Zola [/BLACKOUT]and WS were developed from the previous movies as well.

The fact that all those characters were well-utilized is a testament to the quality of the film, but I don't think it makes the addition of Wonder Woman, Cyborg, possibly Nightwing and most likely the rest of the JL to Batman vs Superman any more comforting.

Each of those characters is deserving of their own solo films...you can't say that about the characters you listed from TWS.

 

[hafizbat]

I'm not a fan of the SoB cowl either. Didn't really like anything about that film to be honest.

Sons of Batman was so bad... Such a disappointment.

Was it? That's too bad.

It was bad one of the worst DC animated movies in my opinion. Had a few decent parts though to be fair,.

Yeah, it was horrendous. I'm afraid the quality of DC animated films has gone down horribly since JL:War.

 

[hafizbat]

Does it matter? The problem is people's perceptions. This movie has Superman, Batman, WW, Cyborg...maybe Aquaman and Lex. If from day one Snyder announced this movie as Justice League would anyone be complaining that there's too many characters?

Of course it matters. That's like telling everyone you're making a grilled cheese sandwich and making a PBJ sandwich instead. No matter how good it is, you did not do what you were supposed to.

 

[Broseph44]

Of course it matters. That's like telling everyone you're making a grilled cheese sandwich and making a PBJ sandwich instead. No matter how good it is, you did not do what you were supposed to.

 

[DeadPresident]

Of course it matters. That's like telling everyone you're making a grilled cheese sandwich and making a PBJ sandwich instead. No matter how good it is, you did not do what you were supposed to.

Perhaps you should start with recognizing that nobody "owes" the so-called "fans" anything.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Is that right?

 

[DeadPresident]

Is that right?

Eh?

 

[serendipity]

I wasn't a critic of the TDK suit, but I think something really simple like the Earth One costume is the way to go.

Only thing is I prefer a wide, black bat symbol. Not really a fan of the yellow oval. Save the yellow/gold for the belt. The ears are perfect to me in this picture, not too curved, with a medium height between Adam West ears and ridiculously long ears.

Although I do really dig ridiculously long ears on the cowl sometimes, like here:

Spoiler

 

[hafizbat]

Perhaps you should start with recognizing that nobody "owes" the so-called "fans" anything.

Of course, but why say you're making a Batman vs Superman film then? Why not call it what it is?

 

[InJustice]

Of course, but why say you're making a Batman vs Superman film then? Why not call it what it is?

Why would you jump the gun at the title when we still don't know the narrative direction of the movie? For all we know, this could just be simple cameos.

 

[DeadPresident]

Of course, but why say you're making a Batman vs Superman film then? Why not call it what it is?

I'm not sure your logic is sound. With the new revelation that Snyder is directing an actual JL movie, I see no reason why SvB can't be a good Superman/Batman movie with anecdotal references to members of the JL to get them on the GA's radar.

Has it been explicitly stated anywhere from Snyder/WB representative that the MoS sequel was going to be exclusively about Superman/Batman? I think what's going on is with each announcement everyone who assumed it would be SvB only is realizing their assumptions were incorrect.

For the life of me I can't see why so many people think it's impossible to have a self-contained story with Superman/Batman/Lex Luthor/Other Villain and still find a combined 15 minutes of screen time just to introduce:
-Cyborg (Snippet of Vic Stone playing in an NFL game Bruce and Clark attend)
-Green Lantern (Quick shot of the council telling Hal/John to keep an eye on something brewing on Earth)
-Wonder Woman (Amazons tell Diana their elders sense there is a grave threat developing on Earth or some ****)
-Etc.

Surely each of those can't take more than 3-4 minutes each.

I can sympathize with people who wanted to see an SvB movie unfettered by unnecessary JL nonsense in the interest of a neater narrative, but considering how saturated the CBM market is and how WB might feel time is running out, if it's now or never I'd much rather they grab the chance at an insane team-up movie rather than playing it safe because it's what worked for Marvel who have beaten them to the punch.

 

[John-An]

Justice League will come after BvS. Confirmed.

 

[hafizbat]

I'm not sure your logic is sound. With the new revelation that Snyder is directing an actual JL movie, I see no reason why SvB can't be a good Superman/Batman movie with anecdotal references to members of the JL to get them on the GA's radar.

Has it been explicitly stated anywhere from Snyder/WB representative that the MoS sequel was going to be exclusively about Superman/Batman? I think what's going on is with each announcement everyone who assumed it would be SvB only is realizing their assumptions were incorrect.

For the life of me I can't see why so many people think it's impossible to have a self-contained story with Superman/Batman/Lex Luthor/Other Villain and still find a combined 15 minutes of screen time just to introduce:
-Cyborg (Snippet of Vic Stone playing in an NFL game Bruce and Clark attend)
-Green Lantern (Quick shot of the council telling Hal/John to keep an eye on something brewing on Earth)
-Wonder Woman (Amazons tell Diana their elders sense there is a grave threat developing on Earth or some ****)
-Etc.

Surely each of those can't take more than 3-4 minutes each.

I can sympathize with people who wanted to see an SvB movie unfettered by unnecessary JL nonsense in the interest of a neater narrative, but considering how saturated the CBM market is and how WB might feel time is running out, if it's now or never I'd much rather they grab the chance at an insane team-up movie rather than playing it safe because it's what worked for Marvel who have beaten them to the punch.

Sorry, wasn't aware that the Justice League film following BvS had been confirmed. My bad.

 

[DeadPresident]

Sorry, wasn't aware that the Justice League film following BvS had been confirmed. My bad.

No problem

Honestly, the announcement of a JL movie doesn't dilute the validity of your and other users' objections to such a sudden team up movie. I get where you're coming from. I just think maybe a little more patience is needed to see where the projects go.

There's a chance it might all be a humongous cluster**** that should have followed the Marvel trajectory, but I think there's enough expertise involved to do this right and give the fans the majority of what they'd like to see, in due time.

 

[lujho]

I think they should do their own thing and apart from WW and Cyborg, introduce new characters in 10 minute solo shorts that play before or after other WB movies at the cinema.

THAT would be awesome and not seen as copying Marvel. Imagine an Aquaman or Martian Manhunter short in front of some WB tentpole that everyone's going to see.

 

[lujho]

In fact wouldn't it be great if they introduced BATMAN himself (and the suit) that way, maybe a year before the actual film? Set up a bit of backstory that tells us who this Batman is and how he's different from the last - how long he's been around, how many Robins he's had (could just be suits displayed in the Batcave) etc. And it could end with him seeing a reveal of Superman to the world on the news, with him saying "interesting" or something!

Fudge, I hate it when I have an awesome idea I know will never happen.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

how many robins he had?
sounds a bit wrong doesn't it?
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