BvS The Batsuit Thread - Part 17

[bluerayer]

Alright...Someone's gotta ask..

Who does pump the Batmobile's tires? No one? Could that be why it lost a wheel?

Yes, im an idiot.

 

[Travesty]

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[bluerayer]

Hehe

 

[TheFirstAvenger]

Alright...Someone's gotta ask..

Who does pump the Batmobile's tires? No one? Could that be why it lost a wheel?

Yes, im an idiot.

Robin... duh.

 

[bluerayer]

Robin... duh.

Hey, relax. Remember, im an idiot. Grant Morrison said so. Robin eh?

I always thought it was Alfred who pumped the tires in The Batcave and that it was Robin who laid an egg...

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

The problem with this is that regardless of whether you take the middle ground, you will still have people complaining. Case in point, people still whine about how Bruce Wayne was able to return to Gotham in TDKR even though we already knew that he was trained to be stealthy and resourceful.

Plus they also established in BB that there was a network of tunnels under Wayne Manor, and those tunnels probably led to many places outside of Gotham.

 

[Hotwire]

I think the same applies to the Bat-symbol here. Some things don't need an explanation. Like him wearing a Bat on his chest.

Just FYI, the language in that pic you posted can get you banned.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The problem with this is that regardless of whether you take the middle ground, you will still have people complaining. Case in point, people still whine about how Bruce Wayne was able to return to Gotham in TDKR even though we already knew that he was trained to be stealthy and resourceful.

The city is locked down and he's out of the city locked in a prison pit god knows where, it's not stupid to inquire exactly how did he get back into Gotham. "He's Batman" isn't enough of an explaination for a version of the story that goes out of it's way to take all (most) of the fantasy out of the character and his world. Nolan can't have his cake and eat it to.

Even in a more fantasy based Batman I'd still be annoyed by the complete lack of an explaination but I acknowledge that I might be able to let it go easier if the film wasn't striving to be gritty and semi-realistic.

 

[lujho]

The other option would be that Batman wears tactical groin protection (like SWAT or soldiers wear).

You can see a bunch of variations of these kinds of crotch protectors that are used in the real world. It would make sense for Batman to wear this without worrying about the "superhero undies" look.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tac...www.code3tactical.com%2Friotgear.aspx;500;500

I always thought that would be a perfectly fine way to do it. Excuse the crappy drawing, but the combo mini-harness/codpiece that was integrated into a trunks-like garment seemed like a cool idea.

 

[lujho]

Also, looking through some old pics I found this old manip of the begins suit made into the armour that might be UNDERNEATH a cloth suit - the red lines are where the pieces might be separated for mobility:

Also, a pic of a wetsuit that shows a non-sculpted suit can still have an interesting look and not just look like spandex tights:

Armour like that under a suit like that would probably look a lot like the manip that's in my avatar.

 

[lujho]

So I never saw the full Electro suit until this picture, and I know it looks to be almost fully sculpted instead of fabric, but it's pretty understated and looks kind of interesting. I'm not saying a Batsuit should absolutely look like this, but it's a cool example of something different and something that looks like it could be armoured without actually being covered with plates of armour:

 

[HUMANIMAL]

groin protection somehow makes sense t:
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[Lencho01]

Though these B&R pics have been posted before, it's interesting to read the thoughts of the artist...

http://www.milesteves.com/gallery/v/ILLUSTRATION/batman+and+robin/

 

[roach]

The city is locked down and he's out of the city locked in a prison pit god knows where, it's not stupid to inquire exactly how did he get back into Gotham. "He's Batman" isn't enough of an explaination for a version of the story that goes out of it's way to take all (most) of the fantasy out of the character and his world. Nolan can't have his cake and eat it to.

Even in a more fantasy based Batman I'd still be annoyed by the complete lack of an explaination but I acknowledge that I might be able to let it go easier if the film wasn't striving to be gritty and semi-realistic.

How did an untrained Bruce go from Gotham to China to the League of Shadows base of operations?

 

[Charlatan]

How did an untrained Bruce go from Gotham to China to the League of Shadows base of operations?

He probably stowed away on a freight ship hauling food into China. Then he got caught, thrown in jail and caught the attention of Ras who invited him.
As for being "untrained" he had already been globetrotting for several years learning skills from different masters. There was some time between when he left Gotham and when he ended up at the Leagues base.

 

[Travesty]

How did an untrained Bruce go from Gotham to China to the League of Shadows base of operations?

Probably with all the time he had, as apposed to what little time and resources he did have in TDKR.

The comparison is way off.

 

[godisawesome]

I just want to point out that the Dark Knight shows that Bruce is the one to call in the South Korean smugglers for his Lau-napping, and that Batman Begins shows him in multiple countries befor being arrested, and established before he began that he only had some pocket cash on him. Add in Bruce's escape from Gotham with Selina at the end of Dark Knight Rises, and the films establish Bruce as an accomplished infiltrator and expert at international smuggling. And most of his trips were accomplished while keeping an extremely low profile, one that only the LOS ever proved capable of tracking.

So yeah, I do think its a load of crock to say that his arrival in Gotham's a plot-hole. His lack of resources never slowed him down in the past, and he's the (insert whatever hilarious profanity you want here) Batman. the film gave him the time to get there and the skills to get there, so get over it.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't have to get over anything.

 

[Sterling Archer]

No you don't have to get over anything, but what you do have to do is talk about this in another thread. This has nothing to do with the Batsuit.

 

[Travesty]

I love this thread.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

My being off topic is a good point but I'm still not going to pretend that something I see as a flaw isn't one to make the Nolan obsessed happy with me. His films have flaws just like any other filmmaker. Certainly I wished that Bruce suddenly appearing in Gotham was the only and biggest flaw because then I would have seen a great film as opposed to an okay one.

Now I will get back on topic.

I'm not a fan of the costume from the videogame being used, it still looks to busy to me.

 

[shallbecomeabat]

The city is locked down and he's out of the city locked in a prison pit god knows where, it's not stupid to inquire exactly how did he get back into Gotham. "He's Batman" isn't enough of an explaination for a version of the story that goes out of it's way to take all (most) of the fantasy out of the character and his world. Nolan can't have his cake and eat it to.

Even in a more fantasy based Batman I'd still be annoyed by the complete lack of an explaination but I acknowledge that I might be able to let it go easier if the film wasn't striving to be gritty and semi-realistic.

I am sorry, but people who have a problem with that scene need to watch another movie genre. You only complain about it because you wanna poke holes into the movie, because the "OH YEAH, look the mighty Nolan finally failed" train left the station. I have never heard that complain from any other people but haters of the movie. Thats the only reason why you can have a problem with it.
But let me explain it to you:

He. Is. A. Ninja. For christs sakes! He stealthed his way onto some plane out of that country he was in, after walking to some town and hitching or stealing a ride. He maybe hitched a few planes all stealth like to get to the US, then stealthed his way into Gotham over the ice, or under the one functioning bridge and taaaaadaaaaaaaaaaaa, he is in Gotham. Thats if we act like he really was completely broke at that time (which he wasn't because how can he lead a new live with selina in italy without any money? He still has offshore accounts and money stashed away off the books, which is what every billionaire has.). If we assume he had money, he simply could've payed some shady people for fake passports and made his way back without being all ninja about it. Even a moderately talented black ops soldier would have managed that. Why people question that Batman does it is beyond me. Also the time between him escaping and arriving in Gotham are weeks. There is nothing... NOTHING plot holey about that.
Sometimes I really wonder if the internet is hurting some peoples brains. I mean, ten years ago, NOONE would have had a problem with this scene, but since the hate can spread so much faster today its like a virus and one person complains about something stupid to put the movie down and every other hater just latches onto that small thing and screams "HELLS YEAH,I HATE THAT SCENE! PLOTHOLE! PLOTHOLE".

 

[Travesty]

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

How Batman gets out of Africa is as much a plot hole as how Jullian Assange has access to top secret information

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm done with that convo shallbecomeabat, we are back to talking about the suit now.