The Dark Knight Rises The Christopher Nolan Thread

[Godzilla2014]

So you guys think that Nolan can best the third movie curse and deliver a great cap to the trilogy that might even surpass TDK?

I think it's possible to top The Dark Knight, but The Dark Knight Rises won't have the same impact, I think.

 

[Rocketman]

I don't think Rises will make more money than TDK, but that doesn't mean it won't be a better film. Some people are often quick to claim that Heath Ledger's Joker is what made TDK so damn great, and while that's partially true, we need to remember that Nolan as an artist is only getting better and better. Nolan was the star of Inception as far as I'm concerned. Inception, dare I say it, is Nolan's best film, even better than TDK, and that's strictly my personal opinion.

If we're only looking at the 3 Batman films to compare against each other, here's how I see the duality between Rises and TDK: While TDK had Heath's incredible acting, Christopher Nolan himself will be the star of Rises. I think Nolan's evolved directing skills and his eye for the camera, along with Oscar Winner Wally Pfister's evolved cinematography, will combine into an experience better than TDK. This includes action scenes, plot, emotion, camera angles, lighting, Zimmer's score, editing, character development / arc... None of these things require the presence of The Joker. A damn good movie only requires damn good use of movie elements.

So can Rises surpass TDK? Of course it can. And it probably will. But if Box Office is what we're concerned with, we're sadly ignoring what the word "surpass" means when it comes to Art, and we're instead focusing on $$$.

Nolan's going to give us one hell of a movie. That's ALL we need to worry about.

My Personal Preference of Nolan's Films:
1. Inception
2. The Dark Knight
3. Batman Begins
4. The Prestige
5. Insomnia
6. Following
7. Memento

 

[Yr Blues]

if movies had 5 acts, nolan seems to always fail in the 4th

bb and the ridiculous water evaporation device

tdr and the ridiculous sonar cellphone station (at least looked cheesy as hell)

inception and the snow capped action sequence, which was so obligatory and out of place like a pixar movie with chase scenes

/// also, nolan is notorious for obvious plotholes. like how the hell does a school bus crash into a bank in broad day light and no one follows it? no cars passing by sees that and does nothing.....

 

[Tequilla]

I've grown up reading Batman comics. I remember seeing Burton's movie when i was younger and thinking that it wasnt how i envisioned Batman.

I also love Nolan since Memento. He handles really well story-telling (im not talkin about plot actions ) and pace (which his quite rare amongst hollywood director's who get to work on big budget movies) So the two together make a hell of a mix. I feels his vision gets much closer to the way i've always dreamed , as a little kid , about Batman and his rogue of enemies in our world.

Burton movies look good , but they rely too much on theatricality . I just cannot relate with them. I honestly dont care about any of the characters in those movies. Funny because a lot of people say Nolan's movie are kinda cold...its not my sensibility.

 

[Blue Sugar]

inception and the snow capped action sequence, which was so obligatory and out of place like a pixar movie with chase scenes

/// also, nolan is notorious for obvious plotholes. like how the hell does a school bus crash into a bank in broad day light and no one follows it? no cars passing by sees that and does nothing.....

The snow action in Inception was awesome, probably my favorite part of the movie.

And if you call that last thing a plothole big enough to bother you then it can't really be that fun to watch movies for you. I wouldn't even call it a "plothole".

 

[slimshady247]

if movies had 5 acts, nolan seems to always fail in the 4th

bb and the ridiculous water evaporation device

tdr and the ridiculous sonar cellphone station (at least looked cheesy as hell)

inception and the snow capped action sequence, which was so obligatory and out of place like a pixar movie with chase scenes

/// also, nolan is notorious for obvious plotholes. like how the hell does a school bus crash into a bank in broad day light and no one follows it? no cars passing by sees that and does nothing.....

That can't even be called a plot hole. Nolan is not really "notorious" for anything like that. Inception, when picked apart, had zero plot holes to speak of. Pretty cool, really.

And those plot devices were hardly "cheesy" or "ridiculous." But whatever. Doesn't hinder my enjoyment.

 

[kvz5]

Cool mash-up of Nolan's movies:

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[QueenChaos]

Chris Chris Nolan Nolan, Chris Chris NOLAN NOLAN, Chris NOLAN Chris NOLAN NOLAN...



It had to be done.

 

[QueenChaos]

Cool mash-up of Nolan's movies:

[YT]r4_gfbl98t4[/YT]

Nice! Highlights a certain tone that courses through all of his films, the content works really well together and makes Nolan's vision quite apparent.
I was ultimately thinking how seeing these prominent elements brought together makes it quite evident why his style is appealing to me.

 

[blueblazer2]

I don't think Rises will make more money than TDK, but that doesn't mean it won't be a better film. Some people are often quick to claim that Heath Ledger's Joker is what made TDK so damn great, and while that's partially true, we need to remember that Nolan as an artist is only getting better and better. Nolan was the star of Inception as far as I'm concerned. Inception, dare I say it, is Nolan's best film, even better than TDK, and that's strictly my personal opinion.

If we're only looking at the 3 Batman films to compare against each other, here's how I see the duality between Rises and TDK: While TDK had Heath's incredible acting, Christopher Nolan himself will be the star of Rises. I think Nolan's evolved directing skills and his eye for the camera, along with Oscar Winner Wally Pfister's evolved cinematography, will combine into an experience better than TDK. This includes action scenes, plot, emotion, camera angles, lighting, Zimmer's score, editing, character development /
arc... None of these things require the presence of The Joker. A damn good movie only requires damn good use of movie elements.

So can Rises surpass TDK? Of course it can. And it probably will. But if Box Office is what we're concerned with, we're sadly ignoring what the word "surpass" means when it comes to Art, and we're instead focusing on $$$.

Nolan's going to give us one hell of a movie. That's ALL we need to worry about.

My Personal Preference of Nolan's Films:
1. Inception
2. The Dark Knight
3. Batman Begins
4. The Prestige
5. Insomnia
6. Following
7. Memento

I remember three years ago people said the Dark Knight would lose to Indiana Jones and Ironman at the Box office .I would not be surprised if this film made more money than the dark knight

 

[imposserus]

 

[Blue Sugar]

Cool mash-up of Nolan's movies:

[YT]r4_gfbl98t4[/YT]

Oh my god that's a great mash-up, with great editing. Intensification of already intense films. Goosebumps moments everywhere.

Also reminded me of how much I love the line and delivery in Two-Face's "thought we could be decent men in an indecent time".

 

[kvz5]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/christopher-nolan-selects-canadian-film-220919

"Christopher Nolan Selects Canadian Film Center For $100,000 Donation"

 

[El Payaso]

Excellent director.

I don't think I've seen a Nolan movie I haven't liked. Only BB and maybe Insomnia could have been better but they're good anyways.

 

[noonelovesrobin]

Nolan has been one of the favorite directors of mine.I followed him before Batman movies and will after that.His worst movie was insomnia (imo) and that was pretty good too.

By the way, i will always wonder what would Aronofsky's Batman look like. Maybe he'll be next director.

 

[helloiamben]

I wonder what Nolan thinks of this little following he has or if he's even aware of it or cares at all. To me, he certainly seems like this humble, introverted guy that loves to make films. Certainly not what the obsessed make him out to be which is this uber-filmmaker that can do no wrong.

The cute little pretentious gifs and images don't seem like his type at all, just the image fans have given him. I wonder what he'd say about it.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I actually like Nolan's non-Batman films more then his Batman films, to be quite honest. He's one of my favorite directors.

 

[Rocketman]

I just realized the connection between Inception and Insomnia.

1. Both start with "In".

2. Inception is about dreaming while you're asleep. People share the same dream.
3. Insomnia is about two people who can't sleep and can't dream. They share the same reality.

4. Insomnia ends with Al Pacino falling asleep.
5. Inception ends with DiCaprio waking up.

6. Insomnia is based around Pacino keeping his secret and revealing it at the end to forgive himself.
7. Inception is based around DiCaprio keeping his secret and revealing it at the end to forgive himself.

 

[Grayson]

Love Nolan. He's my favorite director. If he continues doing his thing, i.e. making critical and commercial blockbusters like The Dark Knight and Inception, I have no doubt he'll make a GOAT list. The order I'd put his films in, as far as how much I like them:

Inception
Memento
The Prestige
The Dark Knight
Batman Begins
Insomnia
Following

Definitely.




As you can see, it's my favorite as well. Ironically, it's his lowest rated movie at Rotten Tomatoes at 75% but still Certified Fresh.

I hate those stupid percentages. Enter the Dragon by Bruce Lee has a 97% fresh rating, but the average rating is only 7.8/10 (I'd say it should be even lower, personally) while Inception has a 86% fresh rating but has an average rating of 8/10 (I'd say it should be even higher, personally). Wtf? That makes the percentages seem pointless as all hell.

The Dark Knight > Memento > Inception > Batman Begins = Insomnia > The Prestige > Following (as far as average ratings on RT go).

 

[Rocketman]

I just picked up two books the other day, which are both based on Nolan's proposed upcoming movies. He has written scripts for both films, and plans on making them someday:

Spoiler

I read Nolan's script for THE KEYS TO THE STREET, and it's incredible. It's really fantastic stuff, and I can't believe it hasn't been made yet.

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed on the Howard Hughes movie.

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Wait, wait wait. How did you read Nolan's The Keys To The Street? How?! The script is online? What? What? what?

 

[Rocketman]

Wait, wait wait. How did you read Nolan's The Keys To The Street? How?! The script is online? What? What? what?

It sure is, good sir.
Prepare to be blown away. I read it in one sitting - didn't eat or pee or nothing. It was that engaging!!

Here's the link:
http://cdn.nolanfans.com/screenplays/keystothestreet_script.pdf

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

Thank you!!!!

 

[Goku Goes Crazy]

I'm going to read it this week. So excited.

 

[Rocketman]

Thank you!!!!

No problem!

Gemma Arterton is supposedly in the lead for the main character Mary. I read the script with her face/voice in mind, and it was extremely vivid.

http://gordonandthewhale.com/gemma-...he-keys-to-the-streets-penned-by-chris-nolan/

http://collider.com/gemma-arterton-the-keys-to-the-street-in-with-the-outlaws-alien-prequels/47451/