Civil War The Civil War "ANYTHING GOES" Thread - ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK - NO SPOILER TAGS REQ.! - Part 1

[spideyboy_1111]

Why explain it? Peter is a kid from Queens, and there is no conceivable way he'd be able to hide from someone who was looking for him who had the resources Tony does. He could just get Friday to just hack into the traffic, store and bank cameras and follow him home that way. Peter is a street level crime hero but if Gen Ross had his eye on him he'd track him down too.

the problem is Spidey has many tech based villains that should be able to do this without a problem... I mean.. the only real one to ever track him down was Norman following him using stealth (Which anyone can indeed do) but for just using cameras... anyone from Ock to vulture should be able to do this...

 

[Tymminator]

She finally uses her widow gauntlets properly after 4 films

Wow! That's great to know! I've waited so long to see that I had pretty much given up.

Buffoons? Ever heard of Otto Octavius? How about Norman Osborn? Does Wilson Fisk ring a bell?

I hear what you are saying. I hope it's more like Tony actually had to do more than what he was saying and only made it sound easy because he is Tony Stark and that's the way he is going to play it.

Perhaps though because this is very early in Peter's career, that will make Parker more aware and cautious from here on out.

 

[UltraSuperGuy]

Buffoons? Ever heard of Otto Octavius? How about Norman Osborn? Does Wilson Fisk ring a bell?

Let's be honest, all comic book villains are buffoons, it contributes to why they always lose.

 

[HunBoy]

 

[JOE]

I can't believe they don't have a poster with Spidey on it... I'm hoping the counter to this one does. Ant-Man is even on this one!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

They can't track down a kid from Queens and put 1+1 together when Peter Parker happens to get all those photos. If the buffoonery fits.

isn't that like people assuming jimmy olsen is superman? look at how wrong they'd be...

 

[JtheDreamer]

I like the screen time Peter is getting. It's enough to satisfy the fans without just being shoehorned in. After his solo movie I think he'll play a bigger role in the MCU. He may even cameo in another MCU film before the Infinity War starts, who knows?

My honest opinion is that because the airport scene is so much fun, the shoe-horning is sort of overlooked. His motives are paper thin for being there as is the transition from Tony finding him to taking him to Germany to begin with.

 

[JOE]

What post credit scene did you guys see? @ anyone who's seen the movie.

 

[JtheDreamer]

What post credit scene did you guys see? @ anyone who's seen the movie.

Only one we got was Bucky being put back into cryo in Wakanda.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

What post credit scene did you guys see? @ anyone who's seen the movie.

only one was attached with the screener..and it was mid credits

it was an epilogue.. bucky and steve have a convo while bucky is willingly going into a tube. he fears he will be triggered and controled again.. so until someone can fix his head he wants to go under ice... it's revealed that the facility is in Wakanda, and Steve thanks T'challa for everything and expresses T'Challa knows that harboring Bucky may cause problems for him. T'challa basically says something along the lines of "let them come then" and the scene pans out to a window with a massive panther statue outside.

 

[captainrogers]

the problem is Spidey has many tech based villains that should be able to do this without a problem... I mean.. the only real one to ever track him down was Norman following him using stealth (Which anyone can indeed do) but for just using cameras... anyone from Ock to vulture should be able to do this...

Look, it's Tony Stark.
He's already got a leg up on the competition.
Who would you bet on to come out on top in a "smarts competition"?
Also, Tony, being Tony is coy about it.
Besides, who's to say whatever lab accident Peter gained his powers from, wasn't affiliated with Stark industries in some way?

 

[Jumpman]

Nat told Tony she had a source telling her where Steve was headed. I still think it's Sharon because they cut right to her meeting up with Steve & Co on the road.

As for Peter's identity. Tony lives in NYC and there's a guy crawling up buildings, spinning webs and fighting crime, dressed a as a spider. I bet he found out who he was within the first week.

Does Sharon join Steve and the crew at the end of the film...on the run so to speak?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Look, it's Tony Stark.
He's already got a leg up on the competition.
Who would you bet on to come out on top in a "smarts competition"?
Also, Tony, being Tony is coy about it.
Besides, who's to say whatever lab accident Peter gained his powers from, wasn't affiliated with Stark industries in some way?

eh........ its not like peter was even known for being caught in an accident outside of himself

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Does Sharon join Steve and the crew at the end of the film...on the run so to speak?

Sharon for some reason is being marketed in promotional art as if she dons a suit and mockingbirds batons... but none of that happens. she has one fight with WinterSoldier (which we've all scene and it's been released) and that's the only time we see her in action....

you don't see her again after she delivers cap's shield and falcons wings and kisses Steve ... it's suggested she will be on the run though once people find out what she did.

 

[captainrogers]

eh........ its not like peter was even known for being caught in an accident outside of himself

That's how Norman knew in the Ultimate Spiderman series.

 

[Jumpman]

Sharon for some reason is being marketed in promotional art as if she dons a suit and mockingbirds batons... but none of that happens. she has one fight with WinterSoldier (which we've all scene and it's been released) and that's the only time we see her in action....

you don't see her again after she delivers cap's shield and falcons wings and kisses Steve ... it's suggested she will be on the run though once people find out what she did.

Sigh...oh well. Maybe she's in INFINITY WAR, but doubtful considering all they have to do in that film.

 

[AvengerPA]

1. Are the Avengers a family? If they are, how do they relate to each other?
2. Which of the two teams is friendlier to each other?
3. Does Spider-man understand the issues at stake, and does he actually agree with Stark's argument?
4. At the end of Iron Man 2 Iron Man and Black Widow had a cold parting. At the end of Avengers they liked each other. Is their relationship once again cold at the end of this film?
5. Does Scarlet Witch use her telepathy in this film, or is it just the telekinesis and energy manipulation?
6. You see the Vision was distracted when he shot down Rhodey? What exactly distracted him?
7. Is Doctor Strange mentioned at all in this movie?
8. Tony's vision in Age of Ultron shows the Avengers dying or dead on an alien world. Cap says "You could have saved us. Why didn't you?" Do you think that it is the outlaw Avengers who mount the opposition to Thanos, and that Tony refuses to help them?

 

[ernesth100]

That scene was awesome.
Steve at one point starts, not just stopping, but pulling the chopper. Yeah, Bucky then turns the blades toward the roof. Chopper goes down, Steve looks through the windshield and metal arm punches through, choking Steve.
Cap then pushes the chopper off the roof.
Metal grip around his neck still.
All go tumbling into the sea below.
Cap surfaces with an unconscious Bucky.

That sounds glorious cant wait to see the scene.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

That's how Norman knew in the Ultimate Spiderman series.

this shouldn't be used for anything....

 

[spideyboy_1111]

1. Are the Avengers a family? If they are, how do they relate to each other?
2. Which of the two teams is friendlier to each other?
3. Does Spider-man understand the issues at stake, and does he actually agree with Stark's argument?
4. At the end of Iron Man 2 Iron Man and Black Widow had a cold parting. At the end of Avengers they liked each other. Is their relationship once again cold at the end of this film?
5. Does Scarlet Witch use her telepathy in this film, or is it just the telekinesis and energy manipulation?
6. You see the Vision was distracted when he shot down Rhodey? What exactly distracted him?
7. Is Doctor Strange mentioned at all in this movie?
8. Tony's vision in Age of Ultron shows the Avengers dying or dead on an alien world. Cap says "You could have saved us. Why didn't you?" Do you think that it is the outlaw Avengers who mount the opposition to Thanos, and that Tony refuses to help them?

-There's a family feel aspect to some degree... Wanda has her own room and her and Vision have a personal relationship, with seeds definitely being planted for a romance. He even cooks dinner for her one night. that's probably the only real "family" feel id say.

-Cap's team is probably friendlier.. while caps is more serious.. but Widow and Spidey seem to not want to make enemey's or really hurt the other team.

- He just been listening to Stark, beyond that we don't know

- as said already.. Stark tells widow they're coming for her (ross) after she let cap and WS go... she walks out saying "I'm not the one who should be watching their back"

-telekenisis, but it's expanded on a little ... while it's all the same effect as jean grey.. it comes off more witchery... anyway. she doesn't know magic yet.. so she shouldn't have it yet

-well he was aiming for falcon (he probably would have killed falcon had he been hit) so i do wonder if his mistake wasn't hitting the wrong person (because he aimed at falcon, and falcon moved, and it hit rhodey) the distraction and mistake might of been using the blast in the first place.. and not watching his power. (which could scare him, 1) being too much like ultron and 2) being too human and lapse in judgement

-No

-non of his vision comes into play. but Tony wants the team united... and he has extreme guilt over his actions in AoU. coupled with the fact he and pepper split and he feels signing the accords can also help him get pepper back too.

 

[captainrogers]

this shouldn't be used for anything....

But Marvel does use aspects of the Ultimate line of books in adapting these characters. And good on them. Take only the stuff that works.
Case in point: young Aunt May

 

[spideyboy_1111]

But Marvel does use aspects of the Ultimate line of books in adapting these characters. And good on them. Take only the stuff that works.
Case in point: young Aunt May

eh.. very little is ultimate based.. even hawkeye has been shifting greatly into being more 616...

as for young aunt may.... NO aunt may has ever been THIS young. not even ultimate.. so one can't really claim she's ultimate based.. even ultimate may had aging hair.

 

[captainrogers]

eh.. very little is ultimate based.. even hawkeye has been shifting greatly into being more 616...

as for young aunt may.... NO aunt may has ever been THIS young. not even ultimate.. so one can't really claim she's ultimate based.. even ultimate may had aging hair.

It's what I just said, they're taking aspects of the ultimates that worked. Be it visual or otherwise.
You just have to look to Nick Fury, Falcon, and even Cap to see the visual influences.
I'm SURE the Triskellion is a conceit of the Ultimate U.
Banner's Hulk condition being a result of super soldier recreation attempts?
Chitauri is a name I'd never heard before the Ultimates
And Marissa Tomei is 51.
I'm sure ultimate May hovered in that vicinity.

 

[DallasGrrrl]

Where is poor Uncle Ben? Is he already dead?

 

[captainrogers]

Where is poor Uncle Ben? Is he already dead?

Strongly alluded to: Yes.