Civil War The Civil War "ANYTHING GOES" Thread - ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK - NO SPOILER TAGS REQ.! - Part 3

[Johnny-Oh]

Yeah in this film and age of ultron the suits looked real cheap which is odd considering how real they looked in IM1

Yeah the suits looked the best in IM1 and The Avengers. They still look great in IM3 and AoU but sometimes they look plastic rather than metallic.

IM2 and this movie seem like needed more polished CGI for the suits.

 

[ernesth100]

They seemed the realest to me in IM1 and 2. Now it feels like they dont really try because they know we're going regardless.

 

[Chance Jackson]

We don't know the circumstances of him being recruited.

he went to prison, again lol and at that a federal ultra super max prison, staffed by the US navy

She knows he's Ant-Man and that he works for Hank Pym. He didn't just leave to help Cap protect Bucky, he went to go help stop a team of Super Soldiers.

I doubt he would have had enough time to tell her lol

We also don't know if he was recruited directly or through Hank Pym.

Falcon probably doesn't know of Hank Pym or at least his connection to Ant-Man

I loved the movie but a couple of things still make me scratch my head and hopefully someone can explain them to me.

1. Why would Tony recruit a 15 year old kid to fight in an adult's world? Look, I get that Spider-Man is very, very strong and capable in a fight. (We see that in the Airport scene.) But still, it's pretty irresponsible to recruit a kid against a bunch of experienced, enhanced individuals. I loved seeing Spider-Man there but I'm just trying to understand why Tony would risk having such a young, inexperienced kid at this fight. Was it just so he could have a wild card that none of them could take on?

This kind of thing is straight out of Ultimate Marvel, Nick Fury tracked Peter down very early on in Peter's career and later on Iron Man and the rest of the Ultimates (ultimate avengers) takes Peter in under their wing

 

[Mike Murdock]

I understand that Wakanda is the source of Vibranium, but thats just a super impressive metal. It does not do anything else right? Thinking there is has to be another advancement in the area of knowledge somehow than just the best alloy on Earth for technical superiorness. That my thought at least.

First off, it's a magic metal that does whatever you want it to do in the plot, so I wouldn't undersell it.

That being said, the actual reason is a bit more and depends on which version you go with. The original Kirby/Lee version was that T'Challa sold some of the vibranium to get a great education and bring in the brightest minds from around the world to modernize Wakanda. The Hudlin retcon made it so Wakanda was basically an African nation that never fell victim to Imperialism, which allowed to to advance beyond all others in the world.

 

[ctsketch]

So if Team Iron man knew that Team Cap needed to get a ride at the airport in order to leave the country, why didn't they just destroy the quinjet? It would have defeated Team Cap's purpose in being at the airport.

They were there for the helicopter. The quinjet was Tony's

 

[Travesty]

I just got out of this, and I loved it. I'm not sure where I rank it right now, but I don't think it's my favorite MCU movie, nor is it my favorite Cap movie. I still think I like both TFA and TWS a tiny bit more, but this movie was great. It definitely had one of the best fights in the MCU.

 

[MarvelMayhem]

First off, it's a magic metal that does whatever you want it to do in the plot, so I wouldn't undersell it.

That being said, the actual reason is a bit more and depends on which version you go with. The original Kirby/Lee version was that T'Challa sold some of the vibranium to get a great education and bring in the brightest minds from around the world to modernize Wakanda. The Hudlin retcon made it so Wakanda was basically an African nation that never fell victim to Imperialism, which allowed to to advance beyond all others in the world.

Had no idea its suppose to be a magical metal. Nice. I really am enjoying learning more about BP. Very excited to see his solo.

 

[MarvelMayhem]

After seeing this now 2 times I almost feel like IM destroying Bucky's metal arm there was a lot of symbolism behind it. He destroyed the 'weapon' that killed his parents, the fist of hydra, etc. It also almost makes me feel like it was the appendage that Barnes has the most guilt over and the worse memories associated with. So if he ever gets out of cryo and gets himself another arm maybe it will feel like a 'new' beginning so to speak for him. No longer being at the mercy of Hydra or use as a weapon of destruction.

And that IM was the one that got to destroy maybe gives him a bit of closure too.

 

[natey2k4]

Black Panther solo will be like Civil War. I believe, at the very least, it'll feature Team Cap. Panther will be the main character, but I expect Cap, Hawkeye, Wanda, Ant-Man, And Falcon to be there.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Okay why does everyone think all the characters who were in the raft are now in Wakanda? From what I understand in that scene only Bucky was supposed to stay there, while the rest are going their own separate way.

 

[STR1]

Okay why does everyone think all the characters who were in the raft are now in Wakanda? From what I understand in that scene only Bucky was supposed to stay there, while the rest are going their own separate way.

Yep. After all, Ant Man has his own movie.

 

[Val_Zod]

Just finished seeing this bad boy. That T'Challa tho. More fun than Winter Solider, but still feel TWS has a better story and focus . The 3rd act is much better and wish more cbm relied less on big set piece finishes like this did.

 

[SlamAdams]

Okay why does everyone think all the characters who were in the raft are now in Wakanda? From what I understand in that scene only Bucky was supposed to stay there, while the rest are going their own separate way.

They broke out of prison. They're fugitives. They didn't go home. Makes sense to me they went to a country willing to give them asylum, at least until otherwise state

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Did we see the makings of the Secret Avengers or West Coast Avengers at the end?

Cap
Ant-Man
Scarlet Witch
Falcon
Hawkeye

I mean, not exactly the founding roster of either of those teams, but perhaps one route they'd take.

 

[Havok83]

Did we see the makings of the Secret Avengers or West Coast Avengers at the end?

Cap
Ant-Man
Scarlet Witch
Falcon
Hawkeye

I mean, not exactly the founding roster of either of those teams, but perhaps one route they'd take.

More like New Avengers

 

[RockSP]

Black Panther solo will be like Civil War. I believe, at the very least, it'll feature Team Cap. Panther will be the main character, but I expect Cap, Hawkeye, Wanda, Ant-Man, And Falcon to be there.

I certainly hope not. It will be total crap for them to make his first solo film a group film.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I certainly hope not. It will be total crap for them to make his first solo film a group film.

I agree. I wouldn't mind a cameo by Cap. But other than that the rest should be in the wind.

Black Panther can easily stand on his own.

 

[Donner]

I feel bad for Hawkeye. His wife is probably so pissed that he got arrested and will now be a fugitive.

 

[dyl1dyl]

I feel bad for Hawkeye. His wife is probably so pissed that he got arrested and will now be a fugitive.

Haha, he ran off for another girl (Wanda). On a more serious note, I hope that he got back to his family after Cap broke him out of the Raft. I'd be happy to see him next appear in Infinity War having spent the few years in between retired with his family. Haha, maybe Wanda could be the one to recruit him for Infinity War and tell him to get off his ass.

 

[C. Lee]

Okay why does everyone think all the characters who were in the raft are now in Wakanda? From what I understand in that scene only Bucky was supposed to stay there, while the rest are going their own separate way.

They are international criminals wanted by at least 117 countries (at least for breaking the Sokovia Accords.....who knows what other countries would like to arrest them for hundreds of reasons).....Wakanda has obviously welcomed them there....so where else would they be?

 

[Visualiza]

They are international criminals wanted by at least 117 countries (at least for breaking the Sokovia Accords.....who knows what other countries would like to arrest them for hundreds of reasons).....Wakanda has obviously welcomed them there....so where else would they be?

It does make me wonder how CW will segue into Ant-Man and the Wasp. Looks like a pretty difficult predicament from a writing standpoint.

 

[samsnee]

I thought the same after Thor 1 but they hand waved that in Avengers. Which kind of undercut the end of Thor.

 

[C. Lee]

It does make me wonder how CW will segue into Ant-Man and the Wasp. Looks like a pretty difficult predicament from a writing standpoint.

I can't remember the schedule for release of the movies....whatever that is will help tell what happens.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I can't remember the schedule for release of the movies....whatever that is will help tell what happens.

2017: GOTG 2 in May, Spider-Man in July, and Thor in November.
2018: Black Panther in February, IW1 in May, and Ant-Man and the Wasp in July.
2019: Captain Marvel in March and IW2 in May.

 

[Venom 1988]

It does make me wonder how CW will segue into Ant-Man and the Wasp. Looks like a pretty difficult predicament from a writing standpoint.

Ant-Man and The Wasp is going to be released 2 months after Infinity War Pt.1 so I would imagine by that point any issues will be resolved.