The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[flickchick85]

How the world sees Superman in these last few films have never bothered me. I've been disappointed to how Superman sees himself and the world. There's a whole big area to explore between the Donner and Snyder versions. A middle ground that I think can be critically and commercially successful.

Exactly. There is a massive gulf on the spectrum between Snyder’s version and Donner’s version, and I truly believe within that gulf there are multiple sweet spots they could hit and find critical/commercial success with this character.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

How the world sees Superman in these last few films have never bothered me. I've been disappointed to how Superman sees himself and the world. There's a whole big area to explore between the Donner and Snyder versions. A middle ground that I think can be critically and commercially successful.

Wow. This really sums up what is wrong with the Snyder films to me.

Paranoia runs rampant. So many of the characters share the same pessimism that it makes the world some place you don’t want to see.

Donner was high camp and no consequence but there is definitely more variety of character to show in Superman’s world.

 

[Tg11]

Plus if Cavill is set for Shazam 2 then it makes even more sense for Cavill to have his own solo even more so now

 

[dhandler01]

I dont think Cavill has anything to do with Shazam 2...that rumor is only in the Clickbait press I havent seen it anywhere legit.

 

[jondoe]

Exactly. There is a massive gulf on the spectrum between Snyder’s version and Donner’s version, and I truly believe within that gulf there are multiple sweet spots they could hit and find critical/commercial success with this character.

YES!! I Totally Agree! Between Donner and Snyder's vision for Supes.. there is a modern Superman movie yet to reach its maximum potential. I think the balance of those two somewhat found and was explored decades worth of stories and character studies in SMALLVILLE TV.

We Only need to adapt it more to SUPERMAN in the BIG Screen.

w/ emphasis from Clark Kent's perspective.

We Need an Inspiring story of HOPE More than ever nowadays.

But the story needs to reflect the harsh reality, like BvS, not pull its punches to show How Light and Hope Donnerverse, of Supes can STILL break thru for today's dark times.

 

[jondoe]

Honestly I am just ready for them to reboot Superman and move forward if that's what there plan truly is. I love what Snyder did with the character and I wish that is was better received so we can see more movies but at the end of the day I just wish WB would release the Snyder Cut (so people will stop asking about it and give a proper ending to that world) and then be more active on a Superman movie. Personally I have no interest on seeing a Superman who is more like Donner/Reeve Superman and prefer seeing a more post crisis/Earth One Superman. Because as I said before I like to see a Superman who isn't widely loved or trusted or accepted. I think that's what was great about Snyder's movie is that they put Superman in the real world and made people react to him as how we would. That's something I would still like for them to keep in a reboot however I also believe they should reboot Superman on HBO Max with his own 8-12 episode series and I believe they should've done the same with Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Aquaman that way you give them a shared world and have more time to flesh everybody and the world out and have better stories and just bring them to the big screen for Justice League movies.

Strongly Agreed

 

[SupermanFan]

The problem with Superman and Batman (and their villains) for me is we always get so and so’s take on the character. This one reason why I’m really disappointed with what’s happening with the upcoming Matt Reeves Batman, it’s just another take (although tbh I think it’s more like he’s copying Nolan’s homework). I really don’t want another take on Superman. Just give us the best of the comic book’s Superman, which for me is what also should be happening with Batman right now.

 

[Tg11]

Within the DCEU, Superman is now back among the living and continuing to protect the innocent. In real life though, there’s no indication when or even if we’ll see Henry Cavill reprising Superman.

While Man of Steel 2 has been in development since 2014, aside from both Matthew Vaughan and Christopher McQuarrie having taken respective cracks at it, and J.J. Abrams reportedly being approached for the project sometime last year, there haven’t been any major updates lately, Even if this sequel were to suddenly be put on the fast track, the earliest we would see it is in 2023 given what’s already on the current DC movie calendar.

So currently, the cinematic Superman languishes in limbo, which is a weird place for one of the world’s most famous and marketable superheroes to be in. Granted, it’s not the first time this has happened with the Kryptonian, but given where Justice League left off with him, it’s a shame we haven’t gotten to see the next chapter of his story unfold, let alone see him clash with other iconic members of his rogues gallery

 

[SupermanFan]

The funny thing is say we’re Superman at Sony he’d have gotten another reboot already. WB are the big reason he keeps taking long breaks after the versions they choose don’t work with majority of the audiences. I’d say WB are more of a dangerous enemy to Superman than Lex Luthor ever was.

 

[Tg11]

With all this reshuffling due to the coronavirus and seeing all the moves DC is making within their own cinematic universe as of late, it begs the question of what happens to the character of Kal-El/Superman...if whether they go ahead with a Man of Steel 2 or they decide to do a Matt Reeves and reboot the whole Superman franchise? For me at this point, they may as well go ahead with a Man of Steel 2 and why? Because if you reboot the whole franchise over again it ruins the continuity of the whole DCEU considering they used Man of Steel (2013) to start off the whole DCEU shared universe...so at this point like I said I would go with a Man of Steel 2 with either Cavill or re-casting the role altogether

 

[STARMAN]

My preference is to reboot without the origin. I think it's the best way to move forward with a clean slate as well as enticing a bigger group of directors by not boxing them in with a sequel.

 

[SupermanFan]

Just make a Superman film where things are established. We don’t need to know the origin again.

 

[Tg11]

My preference is to reboot without the origin. I think it's the best way to move forward with a clean slate as well as enticing a bigger group of directors by not boxing them in with a sequel.

But if they do that, then there is the issue of the events of the first film in 2013 as well as all the other events in the DCEU which did happen...so it isn't like you can ignore any of that

 

[STARMAN]

The general audience have likely already ignored it. It's been eight years since MOS. The momentum for most of those storylines has already vanished. I prefer to move on with an established Superman but also free of any baggage from the events of the DCEU. It also allows the next director free rein and doesn't tie them down to any continuity they probably want no part of.

 

[flickchick85]

Just cast new actors and skip the origin. If it looks nothing like MoS and acts nothing like MoS, no one's gonna be mistaking it for an MoS sequel.

And give Jonathan a different death FFS. Either in flashback or just in reference, I don't care, just establish that's not how he went out, lol.

 

[batman44]

And give Jonathan a different death FFS. Either in flashback or just in reference, I don't care, just establish that's not how he went out, lol.

Or maybe he's not dead at all!!

 

[SupermanFan]

Just cast new actors and skip the origin. If it looks nothing like MoS and acts nothing like MoS, no one's gonna be mistaking it for an MoS sequel.

And give Jonathan a different death FFS. Either in flashback or just in reference, I don't care, just establish that's not how he went out, lol.

Very true, we really just need an honest to god pure Superman Film.

I’d actually like it if he didn’t die at all.

 

[dhandler01]

But if they do that, then there is the issue of the events of the first film in 2013 as well as all the other events in the DCEU which did happen...so it isn't like you can ignore any of that

Sure you can. Last I checked nothing from Incredible Hulk was much referenced going forward in the MCU.

Continuity is what you make of it. You find a way to make it work and 5 seconds later you change it if you need to. Hell it is a staple of comics and comic film franchises going back to forever.

If they reboot no one will ask anything about MOS after the new actor makes his presence known on screen.

 

[Tg11]

Sure you can. Last I checked nothing from Incredible Hulk was much referenced going forward in the MCU.

Continuity is what you make of it. You find a way to make it work and 5 seconds later you change it if you need to. Hell it is a staple of comics and comic film franchises going back to forever.

If they reboot no one will ask anything about MOS after the new actor makes his presence known on screen.

You bring up an interesting point

 

[TheComicbookKid]

But if they do that, then there is the issue of the events of the first film in 2013 as well as all the other events in the DCEU which did happen...so it isn't like you can ignore any of that

If the story doesn't involve the origin, then there's really know need to revisit it to establish anything different. Zod came out of revising the origin. If Superman is fighting Metallo...

 

[Tg11]

But in the continuity in the timeline all those events did happen though and if you wanna maintain that continuity yeah sure you can ignore all those events that did happen in previous shared universe films but then you are gonna have to reference them anyway

 

[TheComicbookKid]

But in the continuity in the timeline all those events did happen though and if you wanna maintain that continuity yeah sure you can ignore all those events that did happen in previous shared universe films but then you are gonna have to reference them anyway

What?

Spiderman has 3 versions. The three times they revisit the origin is because the events around the origin affect the story.

Marvel version hasn’t revisited the origin cause events don’t come from it.

 

[Chris B]

My preference is to reboot without the origin. I think it's the best way to move forward with a clean slate as well as enticing a bigger group of directors by not boxing them in with a sequel.

Agreed. I'd still start out with a semi-established Superman akin to what Marvel did with Spider-Man and what Reeves seems to be doing with Batman, but otherwise focus on the origin very little if at all.

And I really do hope that Brainiac is the villain when we do get another Superman movie someday. It amazes me that Lex and Zod have been the only villains from the comics to appear in a film. Nothing against the character but I kinda feel that Zod should be permanently retired. Its time that get Brainiac gets his due.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Just cast new actors and skip the origin. If it looks nothing like MoS and acts nothing like MoS, no one's gonna be mistaking it for an MoS sequel.

And give Jonathan a different death FFS. Either in flashback or just in reference, I don't care, just establish that's not how he went out, lol.

I’m always shocked by how stupid it is.
I love MoS but I can definitely admit that it has flaws and that’s a big one
I get that they wanted to show Jonathan doing something heroic but my god..............they easily could’ve come up with something better.

 

[Peyton Westlake]

Apologies in advance if I am repeating others sentiments but......what we need is just a good Superman story with him being 'him' I dont need to know his origin again, hell if you don't know it by now you must live in a cave on an island in the south Pacific somewhere.
All you have to do is have him already established in the story.
I always liked the idea in a world full of billions, some still view him as an alien & others a savior.
Some are afraid of him, others revere him.
And some cataclysmic event ( a villain, a natural disaster, invading force,etc.) makes him save the world and give him the moments on screen to 'be' Superman.
And maybe the line ,"Their my people....I'm the only one they have.."