The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[Superark]

Just fyi minor spoilers from Gunn about the setup of the movie. Including timestamps below for various quotes.



1:12 - Minor details about the 1st scene of the movie
2:04 - Action sequences
2:39 - Tone of the movie
3:20 - Music
4:05 - Input from David Cornswett about including the trunks
5:07 - Lois & Clark relationship
5:58 - Gunn's view about who really knows who Clark is as a person
7:23 - Setup for future DCU projects is not the main objective
8:03 - Success of Superman determining the future of the DCU

I love what David said about the trunks and his influence on that decision. Superman is in good hands!

It also makes me curious how much influence he had in regards to them keeping the Williams score in some capacity. David has been on record about wanting to have a Williams theme in one of his projects.

 

[TheGDBatman]

This is all music to my ears

 

[flickchick85]

I love hearing that Top Gun: Maverick was the inspiration for shooting the flying scenes. I literally said while watching that, “whoever makes the next Superman better be taking notes here!”

 

[Tra-El]

I love hearing that Top Gun: Maverick was the inspiration for shooting the flying scenes. I literally said while watching that, “whoever makes the next Superman better be taking notes here!”

That's exciting. Flying was one of the main components high on the list I was most curious about to see how they'd pull it off from a different perspective.

 

[Tra-El]

David Corenswet is the chosen one, confirmed

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As someone who does charity work, this brought a tear to my eye. Explains the BTS photos with children flocking to him. Bravo suggestion from David

 

[Primal Slayer]

I don’t think there’s much chance of this bearing a whole lot of resemblance to what they did with Batfleck. Skipping over the first year or two on the job and forgoing another round of reintroductions to characters we already know is a bit more sensible than skipping straight to Year Twenty.

Yeah probably won't be as big an issue here but Batman already has a son who's Robin so we'll see beyond this.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Dear God there's so much to dig into here I feel like my head is going to explode!

Grinning from ear to ear though

 

[Tra-El]

Great to see Gunn acknowledge and be influenced by Zack. The snippet of the score we heard has Zimmer-like undertones, so hearing this in a sea of vitriol is refreshing from him.

 

[Babillygunn]

My only knock is that, while All-Star is admittedly a great comic, there are a ton of others that I wish we’d get filmmakers taking inspiration from. Sometimes when filmmakers cite All Star, it seems a bit generic. Like when a Batman filmmaker says he was influenced by the Dark Knight Returns or Long Halloween.

I’d love to hear someone say “man there’s a ton of material to mine, so I picked and chose and this film is going to be an amalgam of Up in the Sky, Up Up and Away, Warworld, Emporer Joker, Whatever Happened to Truth Justice and the American Way, For All Seasons, and Superman Smashes the Klan, with a shot of Magin’s and Tomasi’s runs thrown in.”

 

[Still Wynning]

Why we bringing WW into it? Or his plans? I certainly haven't said anything about it in here lol.

Would've thought i gave a scathing review of the trailer i haven't seen or of the poster that I've already complimented

Apologies, I misread the tone of your posts and read them as more negative than they actually were. My bad.

I usually know better, but I was not having a good day yesterday, so apologies if I went too hard at you. It was not my intention. I shouldn’t have been so aggressive.

I’ll try to be better about that in the future.

Just fyi minor spoilers from Gunn about the setup of the movie. Including timestamps below for various quotes.



1:12 - Minor details about the 1st scene of the movie
2:04 - Action sequences
2:39 - Tone of the movie
3:20 - Music
4:05 - Input from David Cornswett about including the trunks
5:07 - Lois & Clark relationship
5:58 - Gunn's view about who really knows who Clark is as a person
7:23 - Setup for future DCU projects is not the main objective
8:03 - Success of Superman determining the future of the DCU

David Corenswet is the chosen one, confirmed

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Top Gun: Maverick being an inspiration for the action and all the flight scenes, setting up the next thing not being the driving goal, world building like Game of Thrones, most of the movie revolving around the relationship stuff Clark and Lois, etc.

They really are going for it. And I love the quote about him mentioning that this isn’t going to be tonally like his previous work and that he’s really striving to go out of his comfort zone and do something different and try new things. He really is making a concerted effort to go against his usual filmmaking impulses as much as possible, and show that he can do more than what he is usually known for.

I love the tidbit going about the casting process for this film for the two main characters and getting the chemistry down and how he finally settled on Rachel and David.

David Corenswet the one to suggest keeping the trunks because Superman wants everybody to like him and not be afraid of him, so he dresses like a wrestler, is perfect because that is perfectly in line with the character and what he actually would do.

Also, the point that he made that, while a few songs here or there will pop up throughout the film, this is going to be mainly a score driven film. Not that I don’t like his usual approach, but it is cool that he is not really doing it nearly as much for this film and doing something more traditional.

Yep. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

I know it’s just people talking and saying a lot of things to get people excited and looking forward to this, but they are saying all of the right things and it’s working on me. They really do seem to care, I mean really, really care and get what this character is all about.

As if I couldn’t be anymore f***ing excited than I already was.

 

[Sawyer]

Yeah probably won't be as big an issue here but Batman already has a son who's Robin so we'll see beyond this.

But I also feel like we can afford to skip some stuff when it comes to Batman at this point. Twenty years was probably overkill, but we’ve covered so much ground with that character that IMO the only thing the audience will really need to be filled in on is the backstory with Ra’s and Talia.

Older Hal in Lanterns might be a bigger concern, but that show is also coming from one of the most flashback-friendly writers in the game, so I’m betting we’ll at least see Hal in his heyday (which is more than can be said for Affleck’s Batman).

 

[JannTosh]

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Entire DC universe is riding on this movie

 

[Tra-El]

Dear God there's so much to dig into here I feel like my head is going to explode!

Grinning from ear to ear though

There's a ton of great stuff. Gunn got everything under control as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Tra-El]

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Entire DC universe is riding on this movie

Of course. This is why I have the utmost respect for Gunn in the end. He didn't shy away and took Superman head on. It takes balls. Sink or swim. The way it should be with a character like Superman. It's big and it's serious.

 

[Still Wynning]

But I also feel like we can afford to skip some stuff when it comes to Batman at this point. Twenty years was probably overkill, but we’ve covered so much ground with that character that IMO the only thing the audience will really need to be filled in on is the backstory with Ra’s and Talia.

Older Hal in Lanterns might be a bigger concern, but that show is also coming from one of the most flashback-friendly writers in the game, so I’m betting we’ll at least see Hal in his heyday (which is more than can be said for Affleck’s Batman).

I’ve also heard James Gunn mention that he’s drawing a lot of inspiration from Star Wars in terms of building out world of the DCU, and Star Wars in its current form isn’t chronologically linear and does allow for jumping around a lot to different points in the timeline, so I bet we will get some media at some point with a younger Hal Jordan in his prime, probably played by another actor.

 

[Sawyer]

My only knock is that, while All-Star is admittedly a great comic, there are a ton of others that I wish we’d get filmmakers taking inspiration from. Sometimes when filmmakers cite All Star, it seems a bit generic. Like when a Batman filmmaker says he was influenced by the Dark Knight Returns or Long Halloween.

I’d love to hear someone say “man there’s a ton of material to mine, so I picked and chose and this film is going to be an amalgam of Up in the Sky, Up Up and Away, Warworld, Emporer Joker, Whatever Happened to Truth Justice and the American Way, For All Seasons, and Superman Smashes the Klan, with a shot of Magin’s and Tomasi’s runs thrown in.”

We’ve seen Gunn make deep cuts with GOTG and The Suicide Squad. I’m sure his inspirations go beyond just All-Star. That just seems to be the biggest one.

 

[Sverdlovski]

Great to see Gunn acknowledge and be influenced by Zack. The snippet of the score we heard has Zimmer-like undertones, so hearing this in a sea of vitriol is refreshing from him.
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He was influenced by Snyder alright. He saw what Snyder did and took a 180 degree turn.

 

[dhandler01]

Yeah, I feel like the article title was a bit misleading bc it seems like Gunn and co. are actually doing a lot of universe-building, just not in such a way that you’ve got a gun to the audiences head saying “Don’t even think about tuning into _____ unless you’ve seen _____ first.”

Yes he has said many times this is not some episodic jaunt to Justice League. This is about telling stories that are all in the same universe, but maybe dont have to tie into each other or some overarching story. Which is great anyways but is also when I believe comics are at their best so I think this is going to be a lot of fun and creatively stimulating.

 

[Sverdlovski]

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Entire DC universe is riding on this movie

That's a given. Why would anyone want to see other movies in this universe if this one sucks?

 

[dhandler01]

But I also feel like we can afford to skip some stuff when it comes to Batman at this point. Twenty years was probably overkill, but we’ve covered so much ground with that character that IMO the only thing the audience will really need to be filled in on is the backstory with Ra’s and Talia.

Older Hal in Lanterns might be a bigger concern, but that show is also coming from one of the most flashback-friendly writers in the game, so I’m betting we’ll at least see Hal in his heyday (which is more than can be said for Affleck’s Batman).

I don't think that will be much of a concern unless something from his past is important to the story. They could (I doubt they are just saying) have him be the "grizzled old vet" who is there more to chew scenery and bring some gravitas...again I doubt that is the case though.

 

[Primal Slayer]

But I also feel like we can afford to skip some stuff when it comes to Batman at this point. Twenty years was probably overkill, but we’ve covered so much ground with that character that IMO the only thing the audience will really need to be filled in on is the backstory with Ra’s and Talia.

Older Hal in Lanterns might be a bigger concern, but that show is also coming from one of the most flashback-friendly writers in the game, so I’m betting we’ll at least see Hal in his heyday (which is more than can be said for Affleck’s Batman).

Batman has explored Dick Grayson twice out of 9 films. 25 years ago. Skipping all him, and possibly Jason, AND Tim....for batbrat....but we'll deal with that when it gets more movement

 

[Lily Adler]

Batman has explored Dick Grayson twice out of 9 films. 25 years ago. Skipping all him, and possibly Jason, AND Tim....for batbrat....but we'll deal with that when it gets more movement

Yes, yes. Dick raised by a family of acrobats, family killed, Batman adopts, he becomes Robin, grows a mullet, becomes Nightwing, shows off his ass. Jason is the one who got killed by Joker and became edgy. Tim is bi and became kept being a Robin. Damien is the rape baby with a god complex.

 

[Tra-El]

He was influenced by Snyder alright. He saw what Snyder did and took a 180 degree turn.

Good! I like different interpretations of the character. I'm not afraid of a dirtied up version and I'm certainly not afraid of a Silver Age approach. Zack was hired to do a certain version and he did that. Without Man of Steel, we aren't here today because the studio loathed classic Superman at one point. The proof is in that pudding. Nobody wanted to make a classic Superman movie before and even made a sequel to Superman II a little darker in nature. That was the feedback at the time. We get certain takes for the times for a reason. The feedback tells us classic is back in.

I do think Gunn will surprise with serious tones sprinkled throughout the film. We'll see if there will be any familiar nods to Zack's work because it's been in every single medium since, including Superman and Lois.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

My 20 yr long pro trunks ass is crying rn

 

[Babillygunn]

Yes, yes. Dick raised by a family of acrobats, family killed, Batman adopts, he becomes Robin, grows a mullet, becomes Nightwing, shows off his ass. Jason is the one who got killed by Joker and became edgy. Tim is bi and became kept being a Robin. Damien is the rape baby with a god complex.

You skipped Stephanie.