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[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Strap in folks the next 12 months are going to be.......interesting to say the least.

 

[GothamCity]

Hope DC films wont become like those Marvel films that almost look all the same, that would be stupid.

 

[MOVIELORD101]

Hope DC films wont become like those Marvel films that almost look all the same, that would be stupid.

Really getting tired of the Marvel hate. Heaven goddamn forbid a universe based on comic books actually look and feel like them. Not everything has to be so serious. DC's had PLENTY of light-hearted and silly moments in the comics. Look up a thing called The Silver Age of Comics.

 

[GothamCity]

I dont hate all of Marvel films, not even hate it. But most arent that interesting to me. Theres just something about it that just looks flat, to much the same. Like you just watching tv instead of a film.

 

[VictusMortuus]

Not disappointed at all with their decision, WW84 was terrible and Gadot isn’t the greatest actor so the role can easily be recast. I’d like Cavill to stay on as Superman in a fun light hearted movie but whatever. DCU can only improve on itself.

 

[Kane52630]

To use a sh** meme from a sh** movie.

 

[king666]

I'll say this as a DC Comics fan: rebooting has always been the best way out of this mess. Bummer for all the existing franchises, but **** it, there's no way to sugar coat this: the Snyderverse baggage sucks.

 

[king666]

On another note, it looks like we found one Hollywood executive that isn't afraid to reject the Rock.

It's amazing how we went from "Welcome back Henry" to full on reboot. So much for Warner Bros wanting to put Superman back into the spotlight.

I'm curious to see how Gunn is going to present a DCU universe that's mostly rated R and has no Justice League or any other major characters.

I can't believe that we're still getting a Flash film that's really in name only. I'm guessing they'll move forward with their original plans of

Spoiler

having Superman erased and replaced by Supergirl.

Nothing in that THR article suggested any of this.

 

[Boom]

People have gotten so used to CBM actors appearing in trilogies (or more) that it's almost treated like foregone conclusions at this point. To that point, I'm seeing a lot of talk on Twitter about how Gadot and Momoa are "owed" third films.

I like them well enough, but they're not owed anything. If it turns out that they only get two solo films each in their respective roles, it is what it is. The studio has no obligation to make third films for either of them just because that's now perceived as standard.

 

[Captain Tired]

Maybe they'll both get a de facto third movie in about thirty years and they'll star opposite a criminal.

 

[Frodo]

The whole thing is a mess as usual , but that's how WB rolls.

Then again, I haven't been all that confident as of late in WB and the new announcements don't suddenly make me more confident in the direction they seem to want to take , nor that they'll be successful in executing that new direction.

 

[blackdragon6]

 

[king666]

 

[Primal Slayer]

People have gotten so used to CBM actors appearing in trilogies (or more) that it's almost treated like foregone conclusions at this point. To that point, I'm seeing a lot of talk on Twitter about how Gadot and Momoa are "owed" third films.

I like them well enough, but they're not owed anything. If it turns out that they only get two solo films each in their respective roles, it is what it is. The studio has no obligation to make third films for either of them just because that's now perceived as standard.

Id say Gal is owed a trilogy. 100%. She did her job, delivered successful films whether it be financially ir critically. She's done everything her past male counterparts have done who got trilogies when WW had a lot more working against her

If Aquaman is another hit, he's certainly owed a trilogy as well

 

[J.Drangal]

I know many will disagree, but keep in mind that I'm not talking about the fans, but the general public, whose participation makes or breaks projects of this scale.

I really don't think people are as attached to these "latest" iterations of these characters as we tend to think. There was a popularity, there's no question about that, but time has passed. A lot of time, in fact, considering this era of a steady stream of gargantuan entertainment content.
And if you don't have your head in echo chambers like specialized sites or forums like here, it's been a while since you could have turned the page on this DCEU, which is still learning to walk a decade after its birth. At least, that's what I see around me.

Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman was released five years ago and her second film was released straight to video in many countries with almost no marketing and meeting a lukewarm reception. The hype died down and Gadot success has "grown out" of her take on the character.
Perhaps even more telling : for some kids, Cavill was Superman in a solo film when they were ten years old. They're now adults without having gotten much new material since then, apart from a very divisive sequel and maybe four or five minutes of screen time in various frankensteined-up movies and last-minute cameos... The actor has found success elsewhere and his fans don't really need him to wear his red cape anymore, just as a potential new generation of Superman fans won't need him to be seduced by the character.

Basically, my point is that I don't think these relatively well-liked actor/role pairs will be missed that much, as they ultimately weren't involved in many projects, despite all those years "under contract". There's just no momentum anymore and, perhaps more importantly, the financial success has always been too brief (when not also too shy) to keep trying to launch a giant multi-film project on these fundations. This bet has been tried and failed too many times already.

Personally, to the risk of sounding like a phony specialist, I think WB has a very superficial reading of Marvel success and I still believe it's a mistake to insist on a shared, multi-media universe (I won't elaborate any further, this post is already long enough). But if they really want to stick to that model, then yeah, I think their only chance of success can only be built on a clean slate.

 

[Madam-Shogun]

Peacemaker really didn't need a TV show. They should have gave one to a **** TON of other characters like Kitana, Vixen, Grayson. It's crazy how that got made while GL languished.

 

[Boom]

I would also speculate that as somebody tasked with building out the DCU for 10 years, James Gunn might want to have a say in who's going to be the face of it. Isn't Kevin Feige involved in the casting process over at Marvel? If you're responsible for the map, you're going to want a hand in all of the key decisions. That includes choosing talent.

It's no offense to those actors, but maybe Gunn would rather not continue with Gadot as WW, or Momoa as Aquaman. Should he be obligated to just because?

 

[Kane52630]

Is it too early to talk about fan casting?

 

[Iceman]

Strap in folks the next 12 months are going to be.......interesting to say the least.

Have heard that about the goings on at DC for a loooong time now.

 

[GothamCity]

They should have made the solo films first before they made Justice League.
Also should have done a solo Batman film first before BvS in my opinion.

 

[Closerframe]

I’m actually happy they’re canceling Wonder Woman 3 and Cavill’s Superman—although the post credit scene in Black Adam seems very baffling. However, the potential of recasting Momoa as Lobo seems like an odd choice—especially if his next Aquaman movie is indeed his last. I supposed if they want to completely start fresh, you have to get rid of everything that came before which is why Aquaman 2 coming out before The Flash seems like such an odd choice.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Assuming that this report pans out, I suspect that we'll get a full-blown reboot where Batman and Superman, specifically the versions formerly portrayed by Affleck and Cavill, will be recast with younger actors. We may have seen the last of Gadot's Wonder Woman as well if Jenkins is no longer attached to the franchise. Given that Gunn seems intent on remodeling the DC film division so that it better captures the, shall we say, lighter and more fantastical feel of the comics, I imagine that Reeves' Batman will function outside of the shared universe model, as will Todd Phillips' recent take on the Joker. Basically, there'll be two different Batmen; each one representing their respective universes. Finally, if the reboot proves successful, I suppose we'll get fewer niche projects in the years to come. If not, it's back to the drawing board. Or something.

 

[blackdragon6]

I guess some don't hate Zaslav anymore lol. Unbelievable

 

[Nemeres]

I do question cancelling Wonder Woman 3, I think another film made sense. The sequel was meh but not as bad as folks say, and the first was about as good as any WW film can expect to be. Abandoning the Snyder castings that completely, even the films with potential, makes sense only if they have a JL reboot planned. And that I'd support. Here's hoping.

 

[Boom]

I do question cancelling Wonder Woman 3, I think another film made sense. The sequel was meh but not as bad as folks say, and the first was about as good as any WW film can expect to be. Abandoning the Snyder castings that completely, even the films with potential, makes sense only if they have a JL reboot planned. And that I'd support. Here's hoping.

But then if Gadot doesn't want to negotiate a new contract after WW3, you're stuck recasting Wonder Woman down the road anyway. Only now it's muddier, because WW3 would have released after the "reboot" started. Might as well just start fresh and recast at the jump-off point. Same exact thing with Momoa.