The Election Night Thread - Part 1

[Broseph44]

I'm expecting and waiting now for an onslaught of hyperbole. It's coming.

 

[Legendver2]

Well you protest voters, you guys couldn't have picked a better time to be self righteous...

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm expecting and waiting now for an onslaught of hyperbole. It's coming.

Star Wars quotes level of hyperbole? Already done.
The country won't be great again? Is that hyperbole?

 

[king666]

do the asterisks mean you see this news as positive?

No, dude. This whole thing sucks.

 

[Marvolo]

You're already making excuses to what is going on. I never said any of that.

I know you didnt say that. I was asking if thats what you meant by "wise up". That the liberals should be more like the GOP.

And what is going on is a racist and a bigot was just elected president. A greedy misogynistic con man. A man that told the uninformed americans what they wanted to hear facts be damned. He saw a group of people that want to blame immigrants and muslims for their lot in life. People that want to keep their coal jobs instead of fighting for clean energy jobs. People that think god causes hurricanes to kill gays. People that think the government is coming for their guns. People that want the government to stop helping the disabled and elderly (the GOP calls them moochers). People that think terrorists are hiding in their bushes. People that think christianity=conservative republican. People that want america to be "strong" and "great" again. People that will repeatedly vote against their own best interests. People that make decisions based on feelings instead of facts. People that won't accept anything that doesnt fit perfectly within their own beliefs. And Donald played every one of them like a fiddle.

Frankly if pandering to those people is what Hillary had to do just to win then maybe its a good thing Hillary lost. Those people deserve Donald. Its just too bad the rest of us also have to lie in this bed.

 

[terry78]

The Simpsons have become reality.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Well you protest voters, you guys couldn't have picked a better time to be self righteous...

well major parties, you guys couldn't have picked a better time to alienate conscientious voters by choosing lame and corrupt candidates....

 

[<(o_o)>]

Well you protest voters, you guys couldn't have picked a better time to be self righteous...

If only Johnson & Stein could allocate all their votes to Hillary. The Electoral College needs that power to do just that if they feel the winning candidate wouldn't be good for the country.

 

[Shikamaru]

By the way, all that work the Left did to win the culture wars? Prepare to see it all undone.

Relublicans now control the House, the Senate, a majority of Governors, the Supreme Court pick and the Presidency. This hasn't happened since 1928. Oh, and Trump says he wants to appoint the next Scalia. And his VP is best buds with Rush Limbaugh.

I'm curious, to what year will America regress to? That's another thing I should put a bet on.

 

[ThePhantasm]

actually Trump could potentially decide as many as 4 SCOTUS picks, which would be unprecedented

 

[Marvolo]

By the way, all that work the Left did to win the culture wars? Prepare to see it all undone.

Relublicans now control the House, the Senate, a majority of Governors, the Supreme Court pick and the Presidency. This hasn't happened since 1928. Oh, and Trump says he wants to appoint the next Scalia. And his VP is best buds with Rush Limbaugh.

I'm curious, to what year will America regress to? That's another thing I should put a bet on.

My guess: 1928.

 

[Marvolo]

actually Trump could potentially decide as many as 4 SCOTUS picks, which would be unprecedented

And horrifying.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Ted Cruz will probably be a SCOTUS pick

I'm predicting it now

 

[Reek]

i don't think Dems should look at this and think "hmm so let's try another political dynasty next time too"

Trump is lucky Michelle didn't run in 2016.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Well, there we have it. The other shoe has dropped, and it's on us.

And this is why I say this is similar to Bush's two wins.

Despite all the evidence widely available people made a choice not based on good information or deep thought but "went with their gut".

The thing is just like Bush this isn't just about Trump but the coterie of ideologues that will surround him. And let's not forget that John Kasich's people said Trump approached them and offered a shadow presidency to him (sound familiar?) if he would be VP. Pence is now poised to fill that role. We have those in Brannon's orbit to consider as well. Look at his surrogates and the foolishness on display there. THOSE folks now have an line into actual policy and power. I have a hard time believing that Trump's cabinet and various appointees are going to be a better group than Bush's.

And I don't think the currently in office members of the Republican Party are going to be some kind of principled fire wall against the Trump administration in the least. While a bit divided, WINNING covers a multitude of sins for many and certain radical policies Trump talks about have been bubbling around the Republican Party for a long time.

Let's not forget the threat to the general body politic. A White Nationist movement has been born tonight. These types have been emboldened through out the campaign... And their guy just won. This isn't putting the brakes on that any time soon.

Other groups will likely roll over for him eventually too. Sure, the business community is jittery now because of market disruption, but once he dangles huge tax breaks, which the Republican congress will deliver up I am guessing, they will mostly fall in line as well.


And let's look at the Democratic Party... This plays into the hands of the fringe leftists and will probably push them into a more radical and confrontational stance as well. It exacerbates the polarization. Like a cancer Trump's victory will spread and make things uglier.

For those that think I'm painting an apocalyptic scenario... I don't think it's the end of the world and we will survive... But elections have consequences. The election of George W. Bush had dire, life and death consequences and left a terrible mess all around. People went with their gut then and look what happened.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Trump is lucky Michelle didn't run in 2016.

honestly i think Bernie could have beat Trump

 

[Legendver2]

You guys watching his victory speech? He looks awkward as hell...

 

[Shikamaru]

honestly i think Bernie could have beat Trump

Absolutely. At the very least she couldn't do worse thsn Hillary.

The internet is already trending on how Bernie should have been nominee. The fact he won the same states that turned over the election to Trump is only further proof of that.

Remember all claims Hillary was the more electable candidate? All the hardcore Hillary voters had to eat their words tonight.

 

[MadVillainy]

So now that he won is the system rigged?

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

I said:

I hope America is going to make a reasonable choice...

...I don't believe it.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I will never believe, especially now, that an avowed Socialist would have won against Trump, not in this country. Trump would have painted Sanders as a stalking horse for Communism and fascism and the people who voted for him tonight would have eaten it up.

These are the same folks that voted against a decorated Vietnam vet because he was made to look like a traitor.

 

[Legendver2]

I guess this would be a good time to say "Buckle up Buckaroos!"

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Trump would have bullied and made fun of Sanders into he turned into a stuttering mess of a parody of a far lefty politician. Sanders was really never really properly vetted by the media all that much so those old illusory opinion poll matchups were just that.

Sanders might have made the white vote closer...maybe, but lost the other demographics by larger margins.

 

[ThePhantasm]

I will never believe, especially now, that an avowed Socialist would have won against Trump, not in this country. Trump would have painted Sanders as a stalking horse for Communism and fascism and the people who voted for him tonight would have eaten it up.

These are the same folks that voted against a decorated Vietnam vet because he was made to look like a traitor.

Trump has a 60% disapproval rating. Most people who voted for him were just voting against Hillary I think. Bernie would have had higher turnout among minorities and millenials. I think it would have been close but Bernie would have had a chance.

Plus, that Access Hollywood tape would have been contrasted with Bernie's commitment to his ideals, rather than overshadowed by Hillary's own scandals.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'm not even confident that we'all see a mid-term correction all that much in two years. I expect Trump to govern as he has campaigned, and he will convince those that handed him his victory tonight that they need to stay the course and keep congress in the hands of the Republicans.