The Flash The Flash, Episode 9: The Man in the Yellow Suit

[the dmg]

This episode was great. The action was well done (minus the obvious CG Wells being tossed around at points), Barry's scenes with his father and Joe were bringing the feels like crazy, and the reveal at the end leaves a ton of new questions.

So much to process now.

It may have already been touched on, but is that wall Braille? If so, is there any spoilers written in it?

That would be pretty interesting.

 

[DaveMoral]

I do feel that there might be another Reverse Flash. I mean, the Reverse Flash we see killing Barry's mom actually looks like his suit is more akin to Future Flash's suit. Smoother, brighter. While the Reverse Flash we saw this week, the suit that Wells has, looks just like Present Flash's suit. Materials, cut, etc.

Pilot RF:

Future Flash:

Wells RF:

 

[Ted]

Just a thought, RF not killing Eddie doesn't have to be cause Eddie is his ancestor or related to him, it could be also because Eddie is dating Iris, so Barry will have a hard time with that situation, which is something Eobard Thawne might do to torture Barry emotionally.

 

[greenlantern248]

I just want to point out again that everyone is focused on him not killing Eddie, what about Joe?

Joe shot at him, RF ran over grabbed him by the throat and just looked at him, he could have snapped his neck in a split second. Before Barry ran in.

 

[Nathan]

My guess would be he is saving him for another time. Zoom probably wouldn't kill all of Barry's friends and family all willy nilly. Zoom obviously wants Flash to reach his top speed, in order to access the speed force, as most of us assume. So it's better to save Joe and Iris for later, to eventually give Barry the necessary push, than to kill them now.

 

[gugumugats]

My guess would be he is saving him for another time. Zoom probably wouldn't kill all of Barry's friends and family all willy nilly. Zoom obviously wants Flash to reach his top speed, in order to access the speed force, as most of us assume. So it's better to save Joe and Iris for later, to eventually give Barry the necessary push, than to kill them now.

This makes sense given how Wells convinced Joe to give Barry consent and motivation to become the Flash.

its the tiny details like that which show the advantages of serialized TV shows versus one big movie.

Anyway, I'm kind of conflicted about wells' motivation (or if we should take the reveal on face value).

Previous episodes point to Wells being an ascended fanboy who wants Barry to become some great hero. However, RF did state that it's Barry's destiny to lose to him.

 

[tecnowraith]

Was Zoom ever this sneaky, calculating and sadistic (anything elese i missed - lol).to Barry in the comics? I don't remember much from the issues I have which are the late 80's/early 90's.

 

[Herolee10]

Did anyone else feel like it was a weird editing decision to have them abruptly place a cut on the shot of Caitlin as she was watching Ronnie fly away? Cor a moment, I thought there was something wrong with the broadcast.

 

[Cain]

Was Zoom ever this sneaky, calculating and sadistic (anything elese i missed - lol).to Barry in the comics? I don't remember much from the issues I have which are the late 80's/early 90's.

 

[Cain]

In addition to the information in the last paragraph of that page he also once killed Iris West to torment Barry Allen. In a comic published after the one that that page I posted is from (The Flash: Secret Files & Origins #1) he also pushes Barry down a flight of stairs when he is still a kid and deletes Barry's childhood friend from existence. Basically since he can't kill the flash all he has left is making the flash's life a living hell.

 

[Ted]

I just want to point out again that everyone is focused on him not killing Eddie, what about Joe?

Joe shot at him, RF ran over grabbed him by the throat and just looked at him, he could have snapped his neck in a split second. Before Barry ran in.

To be honest I didn't really think much about him not killing Eddie. Its just that the character had this line 'why didn't he kill me' which is the reason I think most people are suspicious of that. If Joe's character had, the same question, we would be discussing both.

 

[Human Torch]

I just took it that he'd have killed Joe,but Barry stopped him in time.The slight pause was just to heighten the drama for tv purposes.

 

[Nathan]

Eh, if he wanted to kill Joe, he would have done it. He wouldn't have wasted his time, telling him that he wants him to stop following him. First he simply threatened Iris. Then he pretty much told him to back off. He doesn't want him dead. At least not yet.

 

[Dark Raven]

Good mid season finale. Could easily have been the season finale, and maybe in years gone by in shows like Smallville, it would have been. They seem to be moving things a lot faster in TV shows these days, and certainly in this show. Things aren't so dragged out unlike Smallville.

People have often said that yellow looks rather silly in live action, and even Bryan Singer poked fun of that in the first X-Men movie about the team dressing in yellow spandex. But Reverse Flash looked fine here and not silly at all, especially since he was played completely seriously and appeared very threatening.

 

[Paradox1]

To be honest I didn't really think much about him not killing Eddie. Its just that the character had this line 'why didn't he kill me' which is the reason I think most people are suspicious of that. If Joe's character had, the same question, we would be discussing both.

If RF is a future version of Eddie Thawne his threats to Joe and Iris. Are just that threats and nothing more. His beef is with the Flash/Barry and everyone else is just in his way.

 

[Pikatrou]

Hey, I'm totally new here, and i got tons of questions... First of all, Cisco said he saw two colours of electricity, how comes, in most of the episode, Barry's colour was yellow? When he was fighting against RF? Barry usually has both colours, when he's running alone.. I don't really get it! Also, in the comics, when there were two speedsters at the same time, they had to "share" the Speed Force, and thus their powers were limited, could that explain that when they are both fighting, their colours are more contrasted?
And... Did someone else see Wells healing fast has he put the tracheon device on the suit, and the red stripes appearing on it? God i got so many questions... Could Wells get the power from the ring? Passing it to someone else to grant them these powers would also explain how RF was in the magnetic cage while Wells was standing outside...

 

[The Shape]

Hey, I'm totally new here, and i got tons of questions... First of all, Cisco said he saw two colours of electricity, how comes, in most of the episode, Barry's colour was yellow? When he was fighting against RF? Barry usually has both colours, when he's running alone.. I don't really get it! Also, in the comics, when there were two speedsters at the same time, they had to "share" the Speed Force, and thus their powers were limited, could that explain that when they are both fighting, their colours are more contrasted?
And... Did someone else see Wells healing fast has he put the tracheon device on the suit, and the red stripes appearing on it? God i got so many questions... Could Wells get the power from the ring? Passing it to someone else to grant them these powers would also explain how RF was in the magnetic cage while Wells was standing outside...

To answer one of your questions, in the show, Barry's suit is red but his speed streak is yellow. The Reverse Flash's suit is yellow but, as we saw, his speed streak is red. Hence, the red/yellow lightning Barry saw as a child and when they fought in this episode.

 

[Norek]

To answer one of your questions, in the show, Barry's suit is red but his speed streak is yellow. The Reverse Flash's suit is yellow but, as we saw, his speed streak is red. Hence, the red/yellow lightning Barry saw as a child and when they fought in this episode.

To add to that, if you look at the pilot episode, it definitely appears as if there are two people chasing each other inside the house, and the one that got Barry out to safety is the yellow one.

 

[Dark Raven]

To add to that, if you look at the pilot episode, it definitely appears as if there are two people chasing each other inside the house, and the one that got Barry out to safety is the yellow one.

How come Barry doesn't think that someone did that to him all those years ago, when he's just done that to the likes of Iris and possibly Joe (can't remember now) a few episodes ago, and also all those people on that train as well? Doesn't it seem familiar?

 

[Golgo-13]

Something seemed off with Barry's father. During their chase, the profile in the mask looked like him. Not to mention, this last prison scene..sometime was off about dad. He seemed too laid back and casual about the whole revelation of Barry running into the man in the yellow suit again….

 

[ArkhamMadness]

To add to that, if you look at the pilot episode, it definitely appears as if there are two people chasing each other inside the house, and the one that got Barry out to safety is the yellow one.

Are you sure that wasn't Barry's yellow lightning/electricity? Reverse Flashes lightning is red.

 

[gugumugats]

Something seemed off with Barry's father. During their chase, the profile in the mask looked like him. Not to mention, this last prison scene..sometime was off about dad. He seemed too laid back and casual about the whole revelation of Barry running into the man in the yellow suit again….

Reminded me of Spider-Man 3 when Peter Parker told Aunt May that Spider-Man killed the Sandman

It's just a weird conversation to have and it really hints at the secret identity.

 

[Golgo-13]

Just looked at the ep again. The few shots we got of the RF's face looked eerily like Barry's dad.

 

[Travesty]

Just looked at the ep again. The few shots we got of the RF's face looked eerily like Barry's dad.

I don't think it's his dad or Wells. These photos don't look like either, but who knows, this could just be a stunt guy?

http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/0j89avunvmvb6mjcs98yuhf80k8i9s9a/

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I don't think it's his dad or Wells. These photos don't look like either, but who knows, this could just be a stunt guy?

http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/0j89avunvmvb6mjcs98yuhf80k8i9s9a/

That was clearly a stunt double. Wells IS Reverse Flash, he stole the tachyon device and did the voice (and when the pitch on the Reverse Flash voice was raised it was clearly Cavanagh), and used time travel to beat himself up, I don't see what's complicated about this. They didn't throw us a hint or a tease at the end, they threw us a full on reveal.