The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 7

[zenith16]

It would be interesting. If we assume that Bruce Wayne in the Flarrowverse is the same age as Talia al Ghul, then he was active as Batman in the 80s and 90s, and he'd be ~65 years old now. Having him as an old man but Clark Kent barely out of his teens...that'd be a twist. But generally, yeah, these characters aren't supposed to be used in the CWverse, so I don't see them appearing regardless of age.

what happen's if batman's sill younger then oliver only by 2 year's? The thing is it could be that batman is the way he is in present day and they did \to batman and talia what was done to wally and his wife Linda park in this universe.

only on more drastic scale cause what they did in legends is just reverse Talia and Nyssa's stories of who was the oldest daughter and who may have used the pit (if Talia used it at all. )

it's also possible that batman will never, ever hook up with Talia in the Flarrow verse the same way Conner Hawk won't ever be Oliver's son cause the writers don't want things that way in this universe.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

what happen's if batman's sill younger then oliver only by 2 year's? The thing is it could be that batman is the way he is in present day and they did \to batman and talia what was done to wally and his wife Linda park in this universe.

only on more drastic scale cause what they did in legends is just reverse Talia and Nyssa's stories of who was the oldest daughter and who may have used the pit (if Talia used it at all. )

it's also possible that batman will never, ever hook up with Talia in the Flarrow verse the same way Conner Hawk won't ever be Oliver's son cause the writers don't want things that way in this universe.

True, it's possible you're right. I'm just saying if Bruce is Talia's age, that's how this all has to go down.

 

[zenith16]

True, it's possible you're right. I'm just saying if Bruce is Talia's age, that's how this all has to go down.

yeah "if" it could go alot of ways despite what Robbie Amell said about wanting batman to show up in the flarrow verse.

but seeing that katrina law kinda got her wish with Talia and talia showed up in Lot. maybe Robbie Amell will get his wish granted too. Maybe

 

[Avenging Angel]

Too. Many. Breaks.

 

[super85]

Could also be that Talia has for some reason taken a dip in the Lazarus pit and we have no idea how old she is.

 

[Verick808]

Actually, it might not be impossible to use Clark. I mean, we got an entire 10 season show about him without ever really getting Superman. Having a Clark Kent pop in every once in a while might be interesting, if it were allowed.
CW may even still have the rights.
Unless they've confirmed otherwise.

 

[zenith16]

RUPTURE DEBUTS, HENRY ALLEN RETURNS IN NEW "FLASH" SYNOPSIS

The upcoming "Flash" episode, titled "Rupture," will introduce the Earth-2 counterpart of Cisco's brother Dante.

DC Comics' Rupture (top) and "The Flash's" Dante Ramon (bottom)​

"The Flash's" Earth-2 problems will continue into next month, as a new synopsis for an upcoming episode of the CW series reveals. Not only will Zoom (Teddy Sears) find a way back to Earth-1, thus putting Barry Allen (Grant Gustin) in a dangerous predicament, but Cisco (Carlos Valdes) will get a glimpse of his brother Dante's (Nicholas Gonzalez) evil Earth-2 counterpart.
In the comics, Rupture is the villainous codename used by Cisco's other brother Armando. This isn't the first time that the Ramon brothers have shared codenames upon making the jump from the page to the screen; in an earlier episode of the series, Cisco's evil Earth-2 counterpart went by the codename Reverb, which is the other codename used by Armando Ramon in the comics.
The "Rupture" synopsis also reveals that John Wesley Shipp's Henry Allen will return to give Barry advice on how to handle his supervillain problem. "Rupture" airs on the CW at 8 PM on May 3rd.

“Rupture” — (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-PG, V) (HDTV)
DC COMICS’ CHARACTER RUPTURE COMES TO CENTRAL CITY WITH ZOOM – Zoom (guest star Teddy Sears) arrives back on Earth-1 intent on taking over Central City. Barry (Grant Gustin) and Wells (Tom Cavanagh) come up with a plan to stop Zoom once and for all but it’s extremely dangerous. Unsure if he should take the risk, Barry reaches out to both fathers for advice. Henry (guest star John Wesley Shipp) is adamantly opposed to Barry risking his life again but Joe (Jesse L. Martin) thinks he can handle it which puts the two men at odds with each other. Meanwhile, Cisco (Carlos Valdes) is shocked when he vibes the Earth-2 villain Rupture, who happens to be his brother Dante’s (guest star Nicholas Gonzalez) doppelganger. Rupture came to this Earth seeking justice for Reverb’s death. Iris (Candice [COLOR=#1B8EDE !important]Patton​

) decides she’s finally ready to open up to Barry about her feelings for him. [COLOR=#1B8EDE !important]Armen[/COLOR] V. Kevorkian directed the episode written by Kai Yu Wu & Lauren[COLOR=#1B8EDE !important]Certo[/COLOR] (#220). Original airdate 5/3/2016.​

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[Lantern Venom]

Barry sure could use the help of his BFF with the green ring right about now.

 

[Reek]

So who is in the iron mask?

 

[zenith16]

Putting up a spoiler warning




"THE FLASH'S" VERSION OF JAY GARRICK IS 'NO REINVENTION,' SAYS EP GREG BERLANTI

"The Flash" executive producer teased that there's more to the show's version of Jay Garrick than meets the eye and encouraged fans to keep watching.




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SPOILER WARNING: This article contains major spoilers for "Versus Zoom," the latest episode of "The Flash."


"The Flash" has made Jay Garrick -- the original Scarlet Speedster -- bad to the bone. At least, that's how "Versus Zoom" made it look when the episode revealed Jay Garrick/Hunter Zolomon's history as a serial killer on Earth-2. However, according to executive producer Greg Berlanti, the show "would never make him a baddie."

Greg Berlanti ✔‎@GBerlanti

For those inquiring, we love Jay Garrick and would never make him a baddie. No reinvention. Keep watching love that you're asking q's.​

4:21 PM - 20 Apr 2016
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RELATED: "The Flash" Deals with Losing His Speed in New Trailer for "Back to Normal"
Berlanti's comment follows some backlash on social media, particularly from comics writer Mark Waid, who wrote "The Flash" for years for DC Comics and has previously expressed his enthusiasm for the TV series. On Twitter, Waid express his belief that the Jay Garrick/Hunter Zolomon twist appeared to betray the 75-year legacy of the comic book character.

Mark Waid ✔‎@MarkWaid

Wow. Wow. Wow. For the first time, #TheFlash faceplanted an episode/reveal, betrayed all good will. Sorry I watched.#heartbroken​

9:04 PM - 19 Apr 2016
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Mark Waid ✔‎@MarkWaid

My complaint is bigger than plot. It's about pissing on legacy. Unless there's some Jay fix, I'm out. #TheFlash​

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However, following Berlanti's Jay Garrick-related tease, Waid amended his earlier statements, Tweeting,

Mark Waid ✔‎@MarkWaid

And I apologize. This fixes my mood. https://***********/gberlanti/status/722882921854427138 …​

4:48 PM - 20 Apr 2016
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Mark Waid ✔‎@MarkWaid

Again, sorry I blew my stack if I was wrong about the reveal that E2 Flash was secretly a villain. That felt betraying. Glad there's more2it​

5:28 PM - 20 Apr 2016
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As for Jay Garrick, it appears his backstory -- and future in the DCTV universe -- may not be quite so straightforward as "Versus Zoom" led fans to believe. After all, Zoom has lied to Team Flash before; it shouldn't come as a huge shock if he's up to no good again.
Starring Grant Gustin, Carlos Valdes and Jesse L. Martin, "The Flash" airs Tuesdays at 8 pm EST on The CW.​

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[HighFivingMF]

Mark Waid is a very good writer, but my God is he a gargantuan whiner.

 

[Martha]

So who is in the iron mask?

My guess is the real Jay.

 

[Rorschach2012]

After MOS and BVS, we can pretty much assume the Flash movie won't be as good as the show. I still think it was a mistake to make such a good show separate from the DCEU.

This show has the best drama in any superhero property ever. Joe and Barry provide such a great emotional core to the show that the movie will surely lack.

I love everything about this show. I wish it was part of the movies, the whole two live action Flashes is fine I guess, but I'd rather Gustin be movie Flash. I'm so attached to this version, and the DCEU sucks so far so it's hard to get excited for the movie

 

[The Apocalypse]

After MOS and BVS, we can pretty much assume the Flash movie won't be as good as the show. I still think it was a mistake to make such a good show separate from the DCEU.

This show has the best drama in any superhero property ever. Joe and Barry provide such a great emotional core to the show that the movie will surely lack.

I love everything about this show. I wish it was part of the movies, the whole two live action Flashes is fine I guess, but I'd rather Gustin be movie Flash. I'm so attached to this version, and the DCEU sucks so far so it's hard to get excited for the movie

It's possible they tell a better story but to be honest, I think Gustin is a great Flash and I would have loved to see him, as an actor, flourish on the big screen.

 

[Herolee10]

Grant, Tom, and a few other actors are great actors....without a shadow of a doubt, but the cons far outweigh the pros. If you had the Television universe connected to the film one, then that means that we would also get the crappy version of the Suicide Squad and Felicity/Olicity in the DCEU as well.


Not to mention, the Flash hasn't been doing that great this season.

 

[SuperAl]

It's possible they tell a better story but to be honest, I think Gustin is a great Flash and I would have loved to see him, as an actor, flourish on the big screen.

that just leads to a ton of problems. You are then tied to using Amell for green arrow and all the suicide squad actors. As much as i like a lot of the flash cast there are too many meh actors in that tv universe and i dont want them to be forced into the movie stuff because of one actor.

I do wish WB would open up the characters to the tv guys because it would be fun to see bruce and clark interact with the flash.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

It's possible they tell a better story but to be honest, I think Gustin is a great Flash and I would have loved to see him, as an actor, flourish on the big screen.

They could always use the multiverse to only have the good parts cross over with each other, I don't see why they couldn't say that film and tv are at least in the same multiverse, would be awesome to see Miller and Grant team up in a Flash move sequel or tv episode.

 

[WereCoyote]

Have they officially said they're not in the same multi-verse? I know it was confirmed they're not in the same Universe, but considering DC is all about Infinite Earths, whos to say that down the road they don't cross something over if the demand is there.

 

[flashpo1nt]

Here's the thing, reverse flash used the tachyon device because his speed force was unstable, he wasn't using it to get him to go faster.

when he faced flash he never wore the device and was always faster, probably faster than zoom.

With barry they made it seem that by wearing the tachyon device he's only gaining temporary increased speed and once he takes it off he's back to his normal speed.

If thats the case then he really isn't increasing his speed.

When caitlin measured there speed she said zoom and reverse flash were moving much faster than barry, reverse flash never wore the device and was always much faster.

if barry can only get faster by wearing the device then that would mean naturally zoom and reverse flash, more so reverse flash are way faster than barry....i assumed barry would have to keep wearing the device and over time it would increase his speed force so that once he takes it off he has gotten faster and the increase is permanent....it was never clear as to what tachyon enhancement would do.

 

[gkokujin]

Here's the thing, reverse flash used the tachyon device because his speed force was unstable, he wasn't using it to get him to go faster.

when he faced flash he never wore the device and was always faster, probably faster than zoom.

With barry they made it seem that by wearing the tachyon device he's only gaining temporary increased speed and once he takes it off he's back to his normal speed.

If thats the case then he really isn't increasing his speed.

When caitlin measured there speed she said zoom and reverse flash were moving much faster than barry, reverse flash never wore the device and was always much faster.

if barry can only get faster by wearing the device then that would mean naturally zoom and reverse flash, more so reverse flash are way faster than barry....i assumed barry would have to keep wearing the device and over time it would increase his speed force so that once he takes it off he has gotten faster and the increase is permanent....it was never clear as to what tachyon enhancement would do.

RF used the tachyon device to put speed in his costume and himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ZFIq3RU7o

so that pretty much blows a hole in all this.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Spoiler

Do you know anything about the episode of The Flash that Katie Cassidy will be guest-starring in on May 17th? —Jill
“Like most of the Earth-Two metahumans, Black Siren is under the thumb of Zoom,” EP Todd Helbing tells me. That said, “She’s a very powerful metahuman,” EP Aaron Helbing notes. “She is sassy, strong and capable…. Katie really nailed the performance.”

Does Zoom just control all of E2 baddies?

 

[HighFivingMF]

There are those who work for him, like Reverb, Deathstorm, and Killer Frost and those who he fought as The Flash before blackmailing them into killing Barry Allen. So basically, he had a few that worked for him and then he forced others to help after he ran into Barry.

And in tonight's episode he mentioned having conquered Earth-2.

 

[zenith16]

There are those who work for him, like Reverb, Deathstorm, and Killer Frost and those who he fought as The Flash before blackmailing them into killing Barry Allen. So basically, he had a few that worked for him and then he forced others to help after he ran into Barry.

And in tonight's episode he mentioned having conquered Earth-2.

pretty much and he said he'll do the same to other earth's plural. he'll just start with earth one from earth 2.