The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 7

Hehe good luck with Supergirl and Superman's Earth

 

He won't make that far any ways .

 

"The Flash's" Violett Beane Is Ready to Hit the Fast Lane as Jesse Quick

source: ComicBookResources

 

I'd like too see such a fight t: Zoom would win tho

 

In a world with Supergirl, Superman, Martian Manhunter, and escaped Kryptonians, I don't know about that....

 

Really don't want Jesse with her speed yet. More speedsters diminishes Barry's uniqueness.

 

her speed is more flight related. so stop worrying about that. I just hope the writers/show runners remember her speed is actually unique among speedsters that way barry won't turn Un- unique and we won't keep seeing this kind of complaint. if screw it up it's on the show runners. it's not hard to show how she's different from Barry, wally and Jay(if the real Jay ever shows). since she's a flyer.


Jay needs the helmet To use his speed.

 

Just saw this article posted a couple of days ago that answers my question...

http://zap2it.com/2016/04/the-flash-wally-west-jesse-quick-not-speedsters/

 

I gotta say, overall I've been pretty mixed on thus season. Zoom has been a pretty "meh" villain, especially compared to the awesomeness that was Cavanaugh's RF. On top of that, they keep trying to shoehorn in these dramatic moments with characters we don't really care about. All the drama with Jesse and Wells fell flat to me, because I barely know who Jesse is as a character, and as such I don't care. They've given me no reason to care about her family drama. Same goes for most of Wally's stuff. Wally has been written so he comes off very uninteresting, and the actors performance isn't doing much for me.

There's moments of greatness this season, but overall it's been a very mixed bag for me. I'm starting to slowly lose interest, and I hope they find a way to get back on track. I don't want to drop this show like I did Arrow.

How is everyone else feeling overall?

 

I still like it a lot, but I do think season 1 was better. But most of my issues, were with the first 5-6 episodes. Since then, I think this season has been great.

 

I'm the same. To be honest, with Arrow severely letting me down this season, and Flash not hitting the same heights as last season on a consistent basis, I've been falling off. I didn't even watch the last two episodes when they aired.

 

I personally have little to no interest in seeing Wally become kid flash at this point. The actor is very bland at acting.

 

I agree they have done a very poor job with Wally, he's not the Wally fans love, he's just too dull. Jesse has been written a bit better IMO and Violett Beane has been more solid so far, but Jesse running away and being back so quickly made that plot kind of pointless. It was a mistake to introduce these characters to then do nothing interesting with them. Like most fans, I think Season 1 was much better, it was more consistent and Wells/Thawne a more interesting character than Zoom.

 

Season 1 was much more interesting. It had a tighter story and introduced characters that they actually used.

Wally should be revealed to know Barry is Flash. He should know by now, he's practically been spoon-fed the information needed to deduce it. But at the same time, do we need another character not contributing in Star Labs. I don't think we need another hero speedster on the show at all, at not least in any long lasting capacity.

Jesse running away and then coming back so soon after did make it feel a little pointless. The whole cellular deadzone thing seemed to come out of nowhere as well, that's something they could have easily hidden in early episodes with Earth 2 Wells.

I'm hoping the last few episodes really tighten things up. The Man in the Iron Mask is the only thing I'm really still interested in.

 

I agree Fortress. The Man in the Iron Mask subplot is really the only interesting thing. I mean, the show isn't bad now, but there's just a lot of lazy writing going on. The cellular dead zone thing is a perfect example. The way Barry's dad just bounced out of the picture for no reason (reallllly thought they were setting him up to play a bigger role but apparently nope), the way they handled Patty earlier this season etc.

It just doesn't have the same heart. Zoom started out great, but he's become a pretty lackluster villain. His motivation is pretty dull, and the way they're they're trying to play out this Caitlyn love thing just falls flat to me. To be fair, he had big shoes to fill because Cavanaugh was one of the best villains I've seen on a superhero tv show (to the point where his episode as RF this season was easily my favorite of the season so far), but the writing really hasn't done anything to help Zoom be any more impressive.

It seems like the writers just had too many stories they wanted to tell, and instead of narrowing down on one or two, they tried to do all of them and ended up with a half-done mishmash of plot threads that never have really been developed fully in any one direction. Hopefully they can reign it in by the end of this season and get season 3 back on track. This show still hasn't gotten as bad as I feel Arrow has, but it's definitely in danger of slipping.

 

Black Siren will be Zooms general.

 

The Iron Mask has to be Eddie, Rick was rumored to have filmed something on set. All signs point.

 

The man in the Iron Mask is going to end up being Jay Garrick.

 

thats just a dumb thing to do though... Its so obviously where they are heading with it... but why would it be so shocking who it is like they've said... And Zoom says "you wouldn't believe me if I told you"... Uh yeah anyone would believe it now... so unless its just a bad move on the writers, it should be someone who actually brings the surprise factor.

Also... Zoom fighting Hunter Zolomon Flash ("jay Garrick" ) in the premiere, before hes sucked into the wormhole... none of it really makes any sense... So hunter grew up, deranged in the head, but being a hero (flash)... then finds out hes dying and becomes zoom years later? i mean... okkkk...

 

i hope shes survives and remains on earth 1 after barry convinces her to change sides.

the fight was a lie.

he was the flash and zoom at the same time. as the flash he wanted to bring hope to the people of central city so that he could steal it away as zoom. he only started dying after he created the velocity drug.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHG_8y0-JCc

IGN comments on why Flash S2 is a huge mess. Especially with the Zoom storyline.

And what they discuss is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

I like to think it is his own father under the mask, and that Jay Garrick was a product of not losing his mother. So a split timeline, with the same man, but different outcomes.

 

So John Wesley Shipp totally passes by my job. I saw someone that looked like him twice in the past 6 months, and then yesterday someone saw him in the train station and he waved at us. I hope I can run into him again and get a photo or autograph or something.

 

That is very cool SpideyVille.

 

Yeah, thats really cool.