The Flash The Flash season 2 episode 5 "The Darkness and The Light"

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The date was hilarious. So [blackout] Jesse Quick is Wells' daughter.[/blackout]
 
Also I agree with Jay and based on the preview next week Zoom is going to be a very formidable threat to Barry even greater than Reverse Flash. I do hope that Jay finds a means to regain his speed soon.

Maybe he'll gain it back through a mistake Zoom will commit that allows Jay to syphon his speed force powers back?
 
The date was hilarious. So [blackout] Jesse Quick is Wells' daughter.[/blackout]

Yeah it seems that way. Sucks about there being no Johnny Quick but I guess it works.
 
Also I agree with Jay and based on the preview next week Zoom is going to be a very formidable threat to Barry even greater than Reverse Flash. I do hope that Jay finds a means to regain his speed soon.

I'm still wondering why Zoom can't go after Barry directly. He is a lot more ruthless then RF was so whenever he can face Flash, I expect the fight will do a lot of damage.
 
  • I'm almost certain now that [BLACKOUT]Zoom is Barry's duplicate.[/BLACKOUT]

Yeah, that strikes me as the most logical choice narratively at this point.

To me it is when Kimiyo Hoshi could've added something to the group and to defeating Zoom instead of just giving us another meta to be locked up.

I think there's potential to do more with her later. Unlike everyone else from Earth 2, she hasn't died yet. Maybe there's room for redemption.

Although, to be honest, the group of heroes is a bit large. I feel like she would be like Plastique last season and would have to be killed off.
 
Yeah, that strikes me as the most logical choice narratively at this point.

Unless it's a giant red herring and he's actually [BLACKOUT]Joe.[/BLACKOUT] Far as I'm concerned, it can only be one of those two, assuming Zoom is a duplicate in the first place.
 
For intelligent people those idiots have trouble understanding easy fact that Reverse-Flash = Eobard Thawne and Harrison Wells never bad guy :sly:
 
They get that but Thawne still wore Wells' face and that is who they associate with, which a lot of people would do.
 
For intelligent people those idiots have trouble understanding easy fact that Reverse-Flash = Eobard Thawne and Harrison Wells never bad guy :sly:

That did kind of bug me, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that.
 
It was a good episode thats for sure. I didn't catch who Well's daughter was but now I know.
 
Am I the only one who laughed at how cold Joe seems this season?
 
I thought Hawkgirl's name was Shayara?

Didn't mind the "blind" date plot. Despite this episode and most episodes lately focus primarily on that plot but not the center, which should be Zoom and Earth 2. But Iris is not even jealous of Barry's new romance? Still there should have been more focus on Dr. Light and Zoom.

I like this Harrison Wells twist. Was that the only time we were going to see King Shark?
I don't know what to say except I look forward to seeing next week's episode.
 
I thought Hawkgirl's name was Shayara?

Didn't mind the "blind" date plot. Despite this episode and most episodes lately focus primarily on that plot but not the center, which should be Zoom and Earth 2. But Iris is not even jealous of Barry's new romance? Still there should have been more focus on Dr. Light and Zoom.

I like this Harrison Wells twist. Was that the only time we were going to see King Shark?
I don't know what to say except I look forward to seeing next week's episode.

When part of Character background are death and re-birth they has more than one name
 
I'm really upset that they pretty much confirmed that Killer Frost will be Earth 2 Caitlin.
 
But Caitlin wasn't supposed to be a good guy as she is on this show. So they must have planned to make Killer Frost be from Earth 2.
 
I'm really upset that they pretty much confirmed that Killer Frost will be Earth 2 Caitlin.

That might be a line that turns out to be reversed later on. Was watching The Gift the other night(BTW I can't recommend that movie enough). A character in the movie says something early on that by end reflects the opposite of what they meant.
 
I'm really upset that they pretty much confirmed that Killer Frost will be Earth 2 Caitlin.

Which doesn't surprise me because I had a feeling they would go that route. There wasn't much foreshadowing of our Caitlin having powers like Cisqo does now.
 
This was definitely my favorite episode of the season so far.
One thing that has been bothering me though, is that Barry relies SO MUCH on advice from his team at STAR Labs, that I feel like he couldn't beat the villains on his own. He's starting to look a little weak in that regard, imo. They need to have him beat a villain with his own wits soon.
 
So is Kendra pretty different from Shayara? Like Barry and Wally?
 
I forgot this was supposed to be part 1 of a 2 parter. Obviously makes sense now that I think about it
 
Is that Jesse Quick in the cage that Zoom is looking at?

Also judging by Linda's reaction

Is her Earth-2 doppelganger this universe's version of Dr. Light?
no it's earth 2 doctor well daughter which proves this is the counterb part of the vdoctor well that died in barry's reality. remember Eobard killed both the real doctor well's and his wife. While barry was a child and stole dr. well's face after killing barry mom.

So he had no children and didn't hear or see him talk about in this reality barry's living in so.... He's the real Dr. well's counter part(from earth 2) and not reverse flash counter part.
 
well I'm happy they captured dr. Light. I'm still wounding why the writers wanted her to be Linda park's counter part from earth 2. Maybe they thought they'd save money? Regardless it was a good episode but now that earth one Linda saw her it'll be hard for the DA lady of central city, not to take notice. as well as th rest of the city.


So Barry and the star Labs team better let her know what's up and use iron height's start sending them there. as a testing ground's to lock up meta criminal's from other reality's / universes til this event with the breach's from other reality's/ universe are over .

the only person they should have locked up in the Pip line is that character that know's who both stein & his partner that make up firestorm are and barry's secret identity are . well until Cisco build's a device that erases memory's. other the pipline shouldn't used for them.

if they aren't to show iron height's at all as I said have a police transport van(paddy wagon) send them there til the show runners are ready to show it off.
 
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Was dr. Light supposed to be a male not a female? In the teen titans cartoon dr. Light was a male.
I also think zoom is a bad ass.
 
Was dr. Light supposed to be a male not a female? In the teen titans cartoon dr. Light was a male.
I also think zoom is a bad ass.

Both. In the comics, there were two Dr.Lights - evil Arthur Light and heroic Kimiyo Hoshi.
 
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