The Flash The Flash Season 3 Episode 8 - "Invasion"

[Slade W]

Those alien rays must be attracted to people who live or have lived in Starling City.

 

[Web-Head]

That was good fun. Could have gone without the drama which seemed somewhat pointless, but still.

It almost seems like Supergirl was a late addition and they had the crossover episodes already written and planned out before they knew it was moving to the CW.

The Arrow episode is the one I'm looking forward to the most. Looks great.

 

[flickchick85]

And the lack of Vixen/Steele?

Sara had a line about them manning the Waverider or something. They'll probably join the fray in the Legends portion. Don't think they explained Ray's suit, though.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Sara had a line about them manning the Waverider or something. They'll probably join the fray in the Legends portion. Don't think they explained Ray's suit, though.

I guess that works, though it makes more sense to have your heavy hitters with you, at least Vixen who isn't a newbie to the business and could help out.

 

[flickchick85]

The Arrow episode looks almost entirely skippable for those of us who don't watch Arrow, imo. But I'll be watching for The Flash and Supergirl's minimal scenes anyway.

 

[Mike Murdock]

With Ray's suit, I get the impression Ray's just been rebuilding it and, when he arrived, Cisco has helped him. Maybe he pocketed a piece of Dwarf Star Alloy before leaving the wild west.

I thought the episode worked for the most part - particularly after the introductions. The "distrust" part was obviously very easy, but it set up the Barry/Ollie team up, which was needed (Ollie fighting Diggle, Sara, and his sister all at once worked well). Judging by the trailer for tomorrow, Arrow will have a very different feel than this, so it needed to be wrapped up.

 

[NotNickFury]

Oh, by the way, I do sort of wish we'd seen Barry and Cisco actually have three attempts to enter Supergirl's Earth instead of just the one that landed them there since, once they arrived, it was the exact same scene from Supergirl. I mean, I imagine there are folks who might tune into Supergirl just for the crossover stuff, but looking at The Flash's iteration of the crossover, they could skip the Supergirl episode altogether since the scene is replayed here.

But then, the Supergirl episode didn't need to and probably wasn't intended to be a huge part of the crossover, so much as be another episode of Supergirl, and just have the setup at the end.

 

[flickchick85]

I guess that works, though it makes more sense to have your heavy hitters with you, at least Vixen who isn't a newbie to the business and could help out.

Yeah, I mean in actuality, it was obviously for budget reasons. Supergirl was already clearly putting quite a strain on it, lol.

 

[Primal Slayer]

The Arrow episode looks almost entirely skippable for those of us who don't watch Arrow, imo. But I'll be watching for The Flash and Supergirl's minimal scenes anyway.

Yeah it looks like when it all comes down to it, The Flash/LoT will contribute the most to the overall crossover.

Yeah, I mean in actuality, it was obviously for budget reasons. Supergirl was already clearly putting quite a strain on it, lol.

The amount of CGI they used....I just don't get it, even the aliens. Save some money and do some good make uped aliens.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Man, that was such a fun episode.

 

[flickchick85]

Oh, by the way, I do sort of wish we'd seen Barry and Cisco actually have three attempts to enter Supergirl's Earth instead of just the one that landed them there since, once they arrived, it was the exact same scene from Supergirl. I mean, I imagine there are folks who might tune into Supergirl just for the crossover stuff, but looking at The Flash's iteration of the crossover, they could skip the Supergirl episode altogether since the scene is replayed here.

But then, the Supergirl episode didn't need to and probably wasn't intended to be a huge part of the crossover, so much as be another episode of Supergirl, and just have the setup at the end.

Yeah, unlike the other 3 shows, that was Supergirl's fall finale, so it needed to be a proper episode of Supergirl to wrap up the stuff they had going on there, and was never really meant to be an actual installment of this crossover. These shows get another episode after this crossover to get their proper finales.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah it looks like when it all comes down to it, The Flash/LoT will contribute the most to the overall crossover.

Honestly, I was surprised by the amount this episode drew from stuff in other shows (mostly Legends). Next episode looks very psychological, but they mention it being a shared hallucination, so I wouldn't be surprised if Arrow will explore both Ollie and some of the Legends mindset (particularly Ray and Sara). I do expect Barry and Kara will just be on the outside with Team Arrow and might have a more simple role.

But I don't think a psychological/dream aspect will necessarily contribute less than a mind control episode.

 

[Slade W]

The alien looked good IMO.

 

[Primal Slayer]

The alien looked good IMO.

I don't think they looked bad, but trying to get the most bang for your buck, they could've found smarter ways to budget things overall probably.

 

[flickchick85]

Honestly, I was surprised by the amount this episode drew from stuff in other shows (mostly Legends). Next episode looks very psychological, but they mention it being a shared hallucination, so I wouldn't be surprised if Arrow will explore both Ollie and some of the Legends mindset (particularly Ray and Sara). I do expect Barry and Kara will just be on the outside with Team Arrow and might have a more simple role.

But I don't think a psychological/dream aspect will necessarily contribute less than a mind control episode.

I think the only Legends who were taken were Ray and Sara, who not-so-coincidentally originated on Arrow, so they can participate in the weird Arrow-centric flashbacks/fever dreams they're going to have because it's Arrow's 100th, so it's a "this is your life" type of thing. I doubt it relates to their Legends lives at all.

 

[vantheman77]

It was good that Barry had to tell everyone about Flashpoint, but Oliver and Sara would have done the same thing. I like that the other series' storylines were being addressed as well as Wally wanting to be involved yet Barry, Joe, and Iris don't want him to.

I love the super-speed battle between Flash and Supergirl.

I called it that Oliver would be abducted at the end of Flash, but they took all Arrow members past and present.

I was also right that only Supergirl, Flash, and Cisco will be the only ones in all four parts.

I didn't expect Vigilante to appear as it's a bonus. Like Diggle's reaction to super speed.

 

[Slade W]

This episode kind of reminded me of the Harry Potter films, in that they have to fit so much content in, with there not being enough time to let it breathe. So many scenes were not as good or as effective as they could have been if they were not rushed.

 

[Primal Slayer]

It was good that Barry had to tell everyone about Flashpoint, but Oliver and Sara would have done the same thing.

Oliver has already done the same and Sara attempted it but got over it very quickly and wised up unfortunately. Though with the amount of people the Legends kill in the past it doesn't really matter what she says (even though they dont have it affect the timeline as it should)

 

[nyyarod]

Enjoyable episode but i'm tired of the 'I'm mad at Barry' brigade. It's getting so annoying.

 

[Kelly]

The Arrow episode looks almost entirely skippable for those of us who don't watch Arrow, imo. But I'll be watching for The Flash and Supergirl's minimal scenes anyway.

Yep...same here...I have it set to record, so I can go through stuff as needed. I totally understand however why they filmed it that way....it is a big episode for them.

 

[Kelly]

Enjoyable episode but i'm tired of the 'I'm mad at Barry' brigade. It's getting so annoying.

Well, losing a brother, a daughter, powers ya don't want....hmmmm those are kinda big. He was selfish, there is just now way around that, and he is going to have to live with it.

 

[flickchick85]

Yep...same here...I have it set to record, so I can go through stuff as needed. I totally understand however why they filmed it that way....it is a big episode for them.

Yeah, even though I'm not a fan of the show, I can still appreciate how this a huge milestone episode for them and that it's kind of a raw deal for its fans/creators that it's been commandeered by a 4-show crossover. So I think they're taking the best possible route under the circumstances.

 

[Kelly]

Oh, by the way, I do sort of wish we'd seen Barry and Cisco actually have three attempts to enter Supergirl's Earth instead of just the one that landed them there since, once they arrived, it was the exact same scene from Supergirl. I mean, I imagine there are folks who might tune into Supergirl just for the crossover stuff, but looking at The Flash's iteration of the crossover, they could skip the Supergirl episode altogether since the scene is replayed here.

But then, the Supergirl episode didn't need to and probably wasn't intended to be a huge part of the crossover, so much as be another episode of Supergirl, and just have the setup at the end.

That is true...it would have been funny to see the other attempts, but as far as Supergirl, I'm glad that they allowed it to have its own full episode since it was the Winter finale....the other shows are not going to miss out on that since theirs is next week....so I think it all worked out for the best.

 

[Thome216]

Very cool episode! Yes there was a lot going into it for 45 minutes, but I don't think it felt too rushed. Not too rushed... It was Flash centric, but there were enough plot points from the other shows to spread it out.

I liked Supergirl's intro, though showing Barry and Cisco's previous failed attempts were best left to the imagination. They wouldn't add anything to the story line. Her conversation with Mick was enlightening in a way she never imagined, and I liked how she was just throwing everyone around like they were toys!

Pretty cool. But was it a little too full of drama...? Maybe. But they also can't put the story lines on hold and ignored for a crossover. If they had I think we all would have been mentioning it afterward. So Barry's Flashpoint was going to have a big part, especially as the others like Diggle found out what happened.

And Cisco forcing a reveal had a lot to do with how he no longer trusts Barry. Despite the harm it could do to cohesion he must feel that keeping it a secret could only do more harm. And this being reinforced by Barry's message from the future, the timing just could never be right.

Although it did set up the split that kept enough of the team free in order to rescue the others. As for the Atom suit, Cisco and Ray were discussing it, especially Cisco mentioning 'upgrades.'

Flash racing Supergirl was a great scene, and though he would not have been able to defeat her, he certainly could use her to destroy the mind control device. I like how he phased so she'd pass right through him! Sweet...

A great crossover episode overall and I can't wait for tomorrow night!

 

[NotNickFury]

Sure, he couldn't overpower Kara, but him being faster than her, he could at least keep her moving long enough to figure out a plan that ended up working.